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[ThePwener]

SJK93 wrote...

While you're at it, maybe you could answer my question that I've posted about 3 times now. Do you honestly think that all of ME3's endings will result in our defeat?

Serious Pwener is serious

The devs already said that there is no "happy ending" for ME3. Or how they said it; "No celebration after the ending".

[Sisterofshane]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Sisterofshane wrote...

But that doesn't mean the Reapers didn't try.  EDI specifically states that the Reapers *tried* to create a Prothean Reaper, and failed.
So at least SOME of the Protheans were processed.  It stands to conjecture that the Reapers do not need every single human alive to create a Reaper, or one of us could just kill ourselves and then the Reapers would fail in their objective.
And again, what makes your "necessary sacrifice" better than ours?

All it means is that the Reapers have to try processing a few individuals before they can determine if a Reaper is viable.

That says nothing about how many total are needed.

This makes absolutely no sense.  What I said was that the Reapers will not use every single human in the process of creating the reaper.  If they needed an exact total equalling to every human in the galaxy, and one of us died, then they would fail in making the Reaper.  But this is more than likely not the case.  So it stands to reason that not everyone will be allowed to participate in this so called "glorious" ascension of yours, being left tto be used as husks, as manual labor, or possibly repurposed (turned into mindless bugs).

Saphra Deden wrote...

If every human isn't processed, then so what? Can't save 'em all regardless.

If ascension is so preferable, are there any volunteers to being left behind?  Maybe the Reapers will let us draw straws.[/sarcasm]

[Shimmer_Gloom]

Grey34 wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Sisterofshane wrote...

And not every human in the galaxy will be Reaped.  We know this from vigil.

That's not actually true. The Protheans weren't worthy of ascension, remember?

Regardless, even if that does happen to other humans it will be a necessary sacrifice.

ascension to what?  our  genetic goo to be put into a machine that just sits in dark space? wow i feel so honoured

That was my point.  The life I value does not have anything to do with being goo in darkspace.

[Sisterofshane]

SandTrout wrote...

Shimmer_Gloom wrote...

Why is it that Saphra only responds to my petulant and frustrated posts and not the ones where I actually bring up a valid point?

Because she is unable to create valid counter-arguments, or accept the slightest possibility that there were facts that she simply failed to consider in her initial post.

Also, because the intent of her arguments is to incite anger, not prove a point. She likes the drama. I know I've already said this before...

[Grey34]

SandTrout wrote...

Shimmer_Gloom wrote...

Why is it that Saphra only responds to my petulant and frustrated posts and not the ones where I actually bring up a valid point?

Because she is unable to create valid counter-arguments, or accept the slightest possibility that there were facts that she simply failed to consider in her initial post.

its obvious isn't it? she/he is a troll thats why iahven't bothered really argueing the point i cause i know she/he would just go around in cycles

[Sisterofshane]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Sisterofshane wrote...

This makes absolutely no sense.  What I said was that the Reapers will not use every single human in the process of creating the reaper.  If they needed an exact total equalling to every human in the galaxy

I highly doubt that they need THAT MANY.

Thank you for restating my point.  I wasn't sure if anybody had understood that until now.
*facepalm*

[ThePwener]

Grey34 wrote...

its obvious isn't it? she/he is a troll thats why iahven't bothered really argueing the point i cause i know she/he would just go around in cycles

Oh.... my...... it's not a Troll..... it's a Reaper!

[SJK93]

ThePwener wrote...

SJK93 wrote...

While you're at it, maybe you could answer my question that I've posted about 3 times now. Do you honestly think that all of ME3's endings will result in our defeat?

Serious Pwener is serious

The devs already said that there is no "happy ending" for ME3. Or how they said it; "No celebration after the ending".

That doesn't necessarily mean that we'll lose. We'll no doubt suffer very heavy casualties, and nobody will walk away without scars. Besides, they already confirmed post-story gameplay. So we have confirmation there that it's possible to win.

And yet everyone seems to be ignoring that fact.

[Shimmer_Gloom]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Grey34 wrote...

ascension to what?  our  genetic goo to be put into a machine that just sits in dark space? wow i feel so honoured

Better than dust on the cosmic winds.

Ug.  That isn't what we are tlaking about.  You are giving a false dichotomy.

You say the choices are 'death' or 'goo-death' when it actually more like this...

ONE. Death with high probility of being goo.  TWO.  Fighing with high probility of death and chance of living life they way we know it.  TWO Fighting and living the life as we know it with a possibility of the Reapers coming back and starting the process all over again.

The choices are not death or goo-death.

It's life or death.  Or some kind of awkward stalemate/halfvictory.

The truth resists simplicity.

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

The fabled page 51

[SJK93]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Shimmer_Gloom wrote...

You say the choices are 'death' or 'goo-death'...

That's pretty much what the choice come downs to. However one offers an afterlife and the other doesn't.

Once again, they confirmed post-story gameplay for Mass Effect 3. We can win.

[ThePwener]

SJK93 wrote...

ThePwener wrote...

SJK93 wrote...

While you're at it, maybe you could answer my question that I've posted about 3 times now. Do you honestly think that all of ME3's endings will result in our defeat?

Serious Pwener is serious

The devs already said that there is no "happy ending" for ME3. Or how they said it; "No celebration after the ending".

That doesn't necessarily mean that we'll lose. We'll no doubt suffer very heavy casualties, and nobody will walk away without scars. Besides, they already confirmed post-story gameplay. So we have confirmation there that it's possible to win.

And yet everyone seems to be ignoring that fact.

Im totally against these crazies. The Reapers can be stopped completaly (maybe) but it won't be a happy ending like Star Wars's.

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Shimmer_Gloom wrote...

You say the choices are 'death' or 'goo-death'...

That's pretty much what the choice come downs to. However one offers an afterlife and the other doesn't.

You're saying that the dinosaurs and all the dead plants that make up petrol live on because they fuel our machines?

[Shimmer_Gloom]

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

The fabled page 51

I told you!

[ThePwener]

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

The fabled page 51

[SJK93]

ThePwener wrote...

SJK93 wrote...

ThePwener wrote...

SJK93 wrote...

While you're at it, maybe you could answer my question that I've posted about 3 times now. Do you honestly think that all of ME3's endings will result in our defeat?

Serious Pwener is serious

The devs already said that there is no "happy ending" for ME3. Or how they said it; "No celebration after the ending".

That doesn't necessarily mean that we'll lose. We'll no doubt suffer very heavy casualties, and nobody will walk away without scars. Besides, they already confirmed post-story gameplay. So we have confirmation there that it's possible to win.

And yet everyone seems to be ignoring that fact.

Im totally against these crazies. The Reapers can be stopped completaly (maybe) but it won't be a happy ending like Star Wars's.

I'm sorry if that came across the wrong way. I'm not saying you're ignoring the information, I'm saying Saphra is.

And as a side note, Star Wars was pretty much the first thing that came to mind when I read that post, too. And it's probably a good thing it won't end like that. It will be more realistic. And no Ewoks.

[Sisterofshane]

SJK93 wrote...

ThePwener wrote...

SJK93 wrote...

While you're at it, maybe you could answer my question that I've posted about 3 times now. Do you honestly think that all of ME3's endings will result in our defeat?

Serious Pwener is serious

The devs already said that there is no "happy ending" for ME3. Or how they said it; "No celebration after the ending".

That doesn't necessarily mean that we'll lose. We'll no doubt suffer very heavy casualties, and nobody will walk away without scars. Besides, they already confirmed post-story gameplay. So we have confirmation there that it's possible to win.

And yet everyone seems to be ignoring that fact.

In this respect, I still like the idea of a suicide - mission - type ending.  An ending in which you screw up SO BADLY that the Reapers win.
But that doesn't mean I think that should be the only ending.  That would make it unrealistic.

[Shimmer_Gloom]

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Shimmer_Gloom wrote...

You say the choices are 'death' or 'goo-death'...

That's pretty much what the choice come downs to. However one offers an afterlife and the other doesn't.

You're saying that the dinosaurs and all the dead plants that make up petrol live on because they fuel our machines?

No.  Stop.  We are dealing with the bolded sentence first.

I just said that as a false dichotomy!  You are making it more simple than it is in my opinion.  Those are not our only choices.

There is the choice to fight.  And that choice gives us a CHANCE of 'winning.'

Do not pass go.  You must adress this point.  If there are other options to 'death' and 'goo-death' what is wrong with choosing the other option?

What is wrong with taking the risk that has a chance of saving the life I value?

[Homebound]

we CAN save Earth, we CAN beat the Reapers.

cmon guys, dont set yourselves up for failure.

[ThePwener]

Realistic vs unrealistic

Hmmn.... well, ME2 totally killed all realism ME1 had.... sooooo.........

[ThePwener]

Hellbound555 wrote...

we CAN save Earth, we CAN beat the Reapers.

cmon guys, dont set yourselves up for failure.

Flee! Flee! Before it's too late.