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We Can't Save Earth, We Can't Beat the Reapers


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I know, tragic isn't it?


Try "boring" and you'd be closer to the truth.

The previous games builds up to this epic climax and you're told that you can't win to some capacity at all?

Well, that'd be a huge waste of time. 

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Fixers0 wrote...

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"A rock pile ceases to be a rock pile the moment a single man contemplates it,bearing within him the image of a cathedral."

Shepard is that (wo)man.Until we play the game no one knows how we beat them,what if they write in a way to beat the reapers that comes in from left field,will you cry retcon when we win?

Oh ye of little faith.


The only Bioware can make us win is to make the Reapers totaly ineffective, we allready got a taste of this in Mass effect 2, and from what i've seen so far Mass Effect 3 smells like more of it.

"We will fight,we will sacrifice,and we will find a way,that's what humans do."-Commander Shepard.


Oh, that's just shepard being his usual herp-derp self, don't take it to serious, it's for your own good.

You should start a group...The flat earth society,it's great that your steadfast in your ways,the problem is you try and convince everyone else they are wrong,you've turned telling everyone else what they beleive is wrong into a religion,you go from topic to topic trying to prove personal beliefs and opinions other then your own are factually,and logically incorrect,ME3 isn't going to be tailored to only your liking,the sooner you understand that some people like winning or overcoming impossible odds the easier it will be on you when the game comes out.


It's not about what i'm my liking, its more about what keeps this game consistent to it's own established lore, and how saving earth is going to contradict it.

You have absolutely no idea how we beat the reapers in ME3 you have no idea how consistent  it will  be,every single time you post about ME3 you post like you have already beat it,your counter to this will undoubtedly be something to the tone of fixing the game before it comes out,the fact is you simply do not know,no one knows except BW.

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The previous games builds up to this epic climax and you're told that you can't win to some capacity at all?

Well, that'd be a huge waste of time. 


No, you don't tell them ahead of time. Let it be a surprise.

Now, I understand this would be a radical change in Bioware's style. Spoiling their games before they release them is just what they do.

I don't think you'd find the game a waste of time though. I mean at the end of the day you accomplish the same thing with it that you do with any other game (nothing). You might have fun though and the ending could leave you genuinely shocked and surprised.

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No, I wouldn't find that surprising at all. Not to mention that I'd never feel motivated to play the game again if it's the same outcome all the time.

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Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

You have absolutely no idea how we beat the reapers in ME3 you have no idea how consistent  it will  be,every single time you post about ME3 you post like you have already beat it,your counter to this will undoubtedly be something to the tone of fixing the game before it comes out,the fact is you simply do not know,no one knows except BW.


I know more then enough  that there isn't going to much left on earth, i mean i played the previous games. and i know that Reapers can do.

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Someone With Mass wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...
I know, tragic isn't it?


Try "boring" and you'd be closer to the truth.

The previous games builds up to this epic climax and you're told that you can't win to some capacity at all?

Well, that'd be a huge waste of time. 

I don't think he understands the size of the EPIC s/storm that would fall on BW if they told the player after hundreds of hours and multiple playthroughs,making decisions,that everything EVERYTHING they spent all that time on was all for nought because they can't win.

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Saphra Deden wrote...

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I agree with everything Bogsnot said. Plenty of people have put forward rational arguments, you just refuse to see them. There was another thread about the Quarian-Geth situation where you did the same thing, so I can't say I'm overly surprised. 



I don't consider misinformed arguments to be credible ones. I suppose they are rational, if you are too ignorant to see the glaring flaws in them, however.


Your original argument is as misinformed as everyone else's is.

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Fixers0 wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

You have absolutely no idea how we beat the reapers in ME3 you have no idea how consistent  it will  be,every single time you post about ME3 you post like you have already beat it,your counter to this will undoubtedly be something to the tone of fixing the game before it comes out,the fact is you simply do not know,no one knows except BW.


I know more then enough  that there isn't going to much left on earth, i mean i played the previous games. and i know that Reapers can do.

You've seen what 1 reaper and a bunch of bugs can do,you don't know how the reapers are defeated,you are yet again trying to enforce your opinion as established fact.

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Your original argument is as misinformed as everyone else's is.


No, actually, it isn't. However I am quite pleased that you admitted that everyone else's is.

Modifié par Saphra Deden, 27 juillet 2011 - 06:50 .


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Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

You have absolutely no idea how we beat the reapers in ME3 you have no idea how consistent  it will  be,every single time you post about ME3 you post like you have already beat it,your counter to this will undoubtedly be something to the tone of fixing the game before it comes out,the fact is you simply do not know,no one knows except BW.


I know more then enough  that there isn't going to much left on earth, i mean i played the previous games. and i know that Reapers can do.

You've seen what 1 reaper and a bunch of bugs can do,you don't know how the reapers are defeated,you are yet again trying to enforce your opinion as established fact.


If one Reaper can decimate a fleet, then i'm at the very least sure that hunderds of Reapers won't do under for that, unless....

Well you know....

Retcons.:wizard:

Modifié par Fixers0, 27 juillet 2011 - 06:53 .


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Saphra Deden wrote...

ThanesSniper wrote...

Your original argument is as misinformed as everyone else's is.


No, actually, it isn't. However I am quite pleased that you admitted that everyone else's is.


Hahaha, I think this is a perfect example of you reading what you want to.

And yes, actually, it is.

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Fixers0 wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

You have absolutely no idea how we beat the reapers in ME3 you have no idea how consistent  it will  be,every single time you post about ME3 you post like you have already beat it,your counter to this will undoubtedly be something to the tone of fixing the game before it comes out,the fact is you simply do not know,no one knows except BW.


I know more then enough  that there isn't going to much left on earth, i mean i played the previous games. and i know that Reapers can do.

You've seen what 1 reaper and a bunch of bugs can do,you don't know how the reapers are defeated,you are yet again trying to enforce your opinion as established fact.


If one Reaper can decimate a fleet, then i'm at the very least sure that hunderds of Reapers won't do under for that, unless....

Well you know....

Retcons.:wizard:

Once again,You.do.not.know.how.the.reapers.are.defeated.

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Has anyone considered what effects two years of continuous FTL flight would have on the Reapers?

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Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

You have absolutely no idea how we beat the reapers in ME3 you have no idea how consistent  it will  be,every single time you post about ME3 you post like you have already beat it,your counter to this will undoubtedly be something to the tone of fixing the game before it comes out,the fact is you simply do not know,no one knows except BW.


I know more then enough  that there isn't going to much left on earth, i mean i played the previous games. and i know that Reapers can do.

You've seen what 1 reaper and a bunch of bugs can do,you don't know how the reapers are defeated,you are yet again trying to enforce your opinion as established fact.


If one Reaper can decimate a fleet, then i'm at the very least sure that hunderds of Reapers won't do under for that, unless....

Well you know....

Retcons.:wizard:

Once again,You.do.not.know.how.the.reapers.are.defeated.


And

You.

Don't

Seem

To

Understand

My 

Point.

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Sgt Stryker wrote...

Has anyone considered what effects two years of continuous FTL flight would have on the Reapers?


Low fuel reserves. However I see no reason they couldn't fill up again in an unsettled system before starting the war.

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Sgt Stryker wrote...

Has anyone considered what effects two years of continuous FTL flight would have on the Reapers?

^^^considering no other civilization has realised their plans before it was too late(that we know of) we don't know if the reapers have had to fly like that without the relays before.

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Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...
I don't think he understands the size of the EPIC s/storm that would fall on BW if they told the player after hundreds of hours and multiple playthroughs,making decisions,that everything EVERYTHING they spent all that time on was all for nought because they can't win.


That too.

I know that it's trying to be from a character perspective, but I wouldn't even want to see or hear that throughout the whole game.

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Fixers0 wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

You have absolutely no idea how we beat the reapers in ME3 you have no idea how consistent  it will  be,every single time you post about ME3 you post like you have already beat it,your counter to this will undoubtedly be something to the tone of fixing the game before it comes out,the fact is you simply do not know,no one knows except BW.


I know more then enough  that there isn't going to much left on earth, i mean i played the previous games. and i know that Reapers can do.

You've seen what 1 reaper and a bunch of bugs can do,you don't know how the reapers are defeated,you are yet again trying to enforce your opinion as established fact.


If one Reaper can decimate a fleet, then i'm at the very least sure that hunderds of Reapers won't do under for that, unless....

Well you know....

Retcons.:wizard:

Once again,You.do.not.know.how.the.reapers.are.defeated.


And

You.

Don't

Seem

To

Understand

My 

Point.

Your point is that you keep trying to enforce your opinion based on speculation as fact,I get that sovvy stuck it to the citadel fleet,but you can't argue for inconsistency or retcon UNTIL you have seen it.

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Sgt Stryker wrote...

Has anyone considered what effects two years of continuous FTL flight would have on the Reapers?


I know one. If they can't discharge their cores, they will more than likely take damage from it/die.

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Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...
I don't think he understands the size of the EPIC s/storm that would fall on BW if they told the player after hundreds of hours and multiple playthroughs,making decisions,that everything EVERYTHING they spent all that time on was all for nought because they can't win.


That too.

I know that it's trying to be from a character perspective, but I wouldn't even want to see or hear that throughout the whole game.


I don't see what the big deal would be since you'd still get to see your choices unfold.

At the end of the day none of your choices actually matter anyway. They are just window dressing.

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Saphra Deden wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...
I don't think he understands the size of the EPIC s/storm that would fall on BW if they told the player after hundreds of hours and multiple playthroughs,making decisions,that everything EVERYTHING they spent all that time on was all for nought because they can't win.


That too.

I know that it's trying to be from a character perspective, but I wouldn't even want to see or hear that throughout the whole game.


I don't see what the big deal would be since you'd still get to see your choices unfold.

At the end of the day none of your choices actually matter anyway. They are just window dressing.

So your'e saying BW said ME3 is the best place to start because at least then you didn't waste all that time?

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Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Your point is that you keep trying to enforce your opinion based on speculation as fact,I get that sovvy stuck it to the citadel fleet,but you can't argue for inconsistency or retcon UNTIL you have seen it.


Wrong,

Try better next time,

Hint: use the words:

Earth-decimated-infrastructure-crumbeld-Alliance-Fleet-tactical-retreat-aliens-(almost)-exterminated-Superweapon-Destroy-Reapers-Human-Dominance-Profit.

Modifié par Fixers0, 27 juillet 2011 - 07:05 .


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Let me just ask EVERYONE here one simple question:

Did you guys seriously pass basic high-school grammar and sentence structure? I mean, come on! I know I'm not very good at it but seriously. I am dissapoint.Have any of you actually played a finished build of Mass Effect 3 from start to finish?


Noooo?


Okay then. My point should be blatantly obvious.
It doesn't take a Mentat to know that how we will defeat the Reapers is a closely guarded secret at BioWare. That 'how' is the single biggest thing in the story line. It is what all three games have lead up to. My guess is that it has somehting to do with unlocking the secrets of Mass Effect technology, like the protheans at Illos. That or developing away from the Reaper's Mass effect tech and developing something new.
There is no doubt in my mind that there will be endings where you lost, but simply saying that all endings (yes, multiple endings was confirmed. I think one of the devs mentioned around 6 different endings and the possibilities of more, but that was a looooong time ago) will end in complete and utter destruction in just stupid.

Modifié par Spartanburger, 27 juillet 2011 - 07:09 .


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Spartanburger wrote...

Let me just ask EVERYONE here one simple question:

Did you guys seriously pass basic high-school grammar and sentence structure? I mean, come on! I know I'm not very good at it but seriously. I am dissapoint.Have any of you actually played a finished build of Mass Effect 3 from start to finish?


Noooo?


Okay then. My point should be blatantly obvious.
It doesn't take a Mentat to know that how we will defeat the Reapers is a closely guarded secret at BioWare. That 'how' is the single biggest thing in the story line. It is what all three games have lead up to. My guess is that it has somehting to do with unlocking the secrets of Mass Effect technology, like the protheans at Illos. That or developing away from the Reaper's Mass effect tech and developing something new.
There is no doubt in my mind that there will be endings where you lost, but simply saying that all endings (yes, multiple endings was confirmed. I think one of the devs mentioned around 6 different endings and the possibilities of more, but that was a looooong time ago) will end in complete and utter destruction in just stupid.

Their argument is that there should only be 1 ending and that BW is wrong.

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Saphra Deden wrote...

I don't see what the big deal would be since you'd still get to see your choices unfold.

At the end of the day none of your choices actually matter anyway. They are just window dressing.


Oh, that would certainly motivate me to play the game even more.