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[SkittlesKat96]

Do we actually know if a Reaper dies its element zero goes everywhere? Didn't one of the comics say that it burns itself out or it goes really slowly and burns out or something?

[111987]

Colintastic wrote...

111987 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

I
don't think supernovae work like that; from what I know, "the news
travels at the speed of light, but so does the destructiveness, so you'd
learn about it and die from it in the same instant." Reapers may work
differently, but it's worth looking into.

People earlier
in the thread calculated that if the blast moved at the speed of light,
it would take 8 minutes for the supernova to reach Earth.

Also,
the point about Arrival is interesting too; did the Reapers outright
survive that, or were they still not in the system, just incredibly
close?

Not to nitpick too much, but 8 minutes is
the length of time it takes for light to go from the Sun to the Earth,
not pluto to the earth. Pluto is significantly farther from the earth
than the sun is. Pluto is 3666 Milion miles from sun, whereas earth is
90 milion miles from sun. It should take about 5 hours to reach there
from pluto assuming the speed of light. Ya never know how fast element
zero goes since it's make believe.

Ah okay,
thank you. Yeah it seemed like the Bahak system was taken out almost
instantly, meaning the blast moves MUCH faster than the speed of light.

Xilizhra wrote...

People
earlier in the thread calculated that if the blast moved at the speed of
light, it would take 8 minutes for the supernova to reach Earth.

Right; my point is that the Reapers wouldn't realize it for eight minutes.

Assuming they don't leave a Reaper or two to protect the Relay or something like that.

[Sajuro]

I have a fool proof plan to stop the Reapers, we assemble the biggest team of bad asses by recruiting the warden, Darth Revan, Hawke, the Spirit Monk, and Commander Shepard from both ME1 and ME2

[111987]

Saphra Deden wrote...

The Reapers can easily set up quantum-entanglement devices on the relay to monitor it so that if something happens they can escape.

Use your brain.

Would that actually work though? Does blowing up the relay change the polarity of the particle?

[azerSheppard]

Screw around with all the relay sofware, maybe install windows.

[Colintastic]

111987 wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

The Reapers can easily set up quantum-entanglement devices on the relay to monitor it so that if something happens they can escape.

Use your brain.

Would that actually work though? Does blowing up the relay change the polarity of the particle?

Who knows, once again it's element zero acting there, the "scientific" properties of which are uncertain and fictional. But let's put this argument out of it's misery real quick: Communication in ME works via comm bouys which send transmission at FTL speeds. The resulting shockwave would most certainly destroy any comm bouys in its path and the sudden halt of data transfer would alert anyone paying attention that something was up. This however, is essentially the same thing as quantum entanglement anyway. If the explosion moved at the same rate as communication they probably wouldn't be able to bugger out in time unless they set up a guard to warn ahead of time, though regardless, there is some evidence to suggest they would survive the blast anyway (even if they sustained heavy damage), whereas nothing else would. They would then have a few months to repair as they traveled to the next star system with a relay, where even if the process was repeated there would be no more success.

[Someone With Mass]

The shockwave of a supernova travels at around 30 000 km/sec, by the way.

[azerSheppard]

Someone With Mass wrote...

The shockwave of a supernova travels at around 30 000 km/sec, by the way.

I know this has been discussed, but a mini Relay could shoot a large projectile at a reapers, doesn't matter how fast the reapers are, once you fire, it's done.

[111987]

azerSheppard wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

The shockwave of a supernova travels at around 30 000 km/sec, by the way.

I know this has been discussed, but a mini Relay could shoot a large projectile at a reapers, doesn't matter how fast the reapers are, once you fire, it's done.

That would never work. Relay jumps have drift of thousands or even millions of kilometers in any direction. Plus, the Relays only link to each other; you can't just fire in any direction you want.

[ohbobsagetpiss]

I guess you could try sending a small portion of the human population out of the milky way and find another galaxy...leave most on earth for the reapers so they don't realize some escaped. I just don't know if it's possible to travel that huge of a distance without relays. Or if the reapers wouldn't be able to track you down outside of the milky way.

Anyway, hiding would be more practical than fighting. Didn't some Prothean scientists do a similiar thing?

[111987]

ohbobsagetpiss wrote...

I guess you could try sending a small portion of the human population out of the milky way and find another galaxy...leave most on earth for the reapers so they don't realize some escaped. I just don't know if it's possible to travel that huge of a distance without relays. Or if the reapers wouldn't be able to track you down outside of the milky way.

Anyway, hiding would be more practical than fighting. Didn't some Prothean scientists do a similiar thing?

Organic ships can only travel at most 50 hours before they have to discharge their drive cores. There is nothing to discharge their drive cores on in the dark space.

[Someone With Mass]

111987 wrote...

azerSheppard wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

The shockwave of a supernova travels at around 30 000 km/sec, by the way.

I know this has been discussed, but a mini Relay could shoot a large projectile at a reapers, doesn't matter how fast the reapers are, once you fire, it's done.

That would never work. Relay jumps have drift of thousands or even millions of kilometers in any direction. Plus, the Relays only link to each other; you can't just fire in any direction you want.

Not to mention that your projectile needs to have a drive core for it to work, which can be pretty expensive.

[AppleBanana]

You guys better be voting for Garrus

http://uk.gamespot.c...tml?battle_id=9

[111987]

Saphra Deden wrote...

111987 wrote...

Would that actually work though? Does blowing up the relay change the polarity of the particle?

It doesn't notify them right when it blows up, it notifies them many hours or days or weeks before.

Getting into place to destory a relay will take a time, a lot of time. You need to find something really big to smash into it and then find a way to change its trajectory so it will hit the relay.

That suggests that the only way to destroy a Mass Relay is to smash an asteroid into it though. There are other means of destroying it, enough force just needs to be generated. I imagine something like the Klendagon weapon could destroy a Mass Relay. And that kind of technology isn't beyond the current races capabilities; it's just a really big, planet-based mass accelerator gun. Depending on the proximity of the nearest planetary body to the Mass Relay, this could work.

And since 'Arrival' showed how the supernova like effect of a Mass Relay moves significantly faster than a normal supernova (the Bahak system was destroyed in seconds), this could be a possible means of taking out a large amount of Reapers.

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

Saphra Deden wrote...

111987 wrote...

That suggests that the only way to destroy a Mass Relay is to smash an asteroid into it though.

You need something with a lot of mass. A lot of mass. If it were easier the Project wouldn't have needed to go about it the way they did.

Theorically, couldn't you shoot something at it and increase its mass with eezo, don't disruptor torpedos work by increasing their mass?

[111987]

Saphra Deden wrote...

111987 wrote...

That suggests that the only way to destroy a Mass Relay is to smash an asteroid into it though.

You need something with a lot of mass. A lot of mass. If it were easier the Project wouldn't have needed to go about it the way they did.

I think the Project happened that way because even it's easier to outfit an asteroid with thrusters than to build a massive weapon deep in Batarian space.

I mean the Klendagon weapon passed through a Reaper and still managed to smash up an entire hemisphere of a planet. i would assume that that kind of force would be enough to destroy a Mass Relay.

Of course the problem with this is that the weapon would have to be kept hidden from the Reapers, and if the Reapers are en masse in that system, hiding a giant super weapon is probably unrealistic anyways.

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Theorically, couldn't you shoot something at it and increase its mass with eezo, don't disruptor torpedos work by increasing their mass?

How much eezo would that take? If that kind of weaponry was practical it would already be in use. On disruptor torpedo could take out an entire dreadnought.

Well,it would be easier than strapping a bunch of rockets to meteor


Also, it isn't something that is needed in normal space combat,why the hell would they use torpedos when they have main guns.

Modifié par Humanoid_Typhoon, 08 septembre 2011 - 12:57 .

[111987]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Theorically, couldn't you shoot something at it and increase its mass with eezo, don't disruptor torpedos work by increasing their mass?

How much eezo would that take? If that kind of weaponry was practical it would already be in use. One disruptor torpedo could take out an entire dreadnought.

Well, one disruptor torpedo can already take out a cruiser (as seen in the Battle of the Citadel). If a weapon was developed for the sole purpose of destroying a Relay, it could be possible to increase its mass enough to destroy it.

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Well,it would be easier than strapping a bunch of rockets to meteor.

Well apparently it isn't because instead they decided to strap rockets to a meteor.

1. They were in batarian space,they couldn't have brought in military hardware and remained discreet.
2.Proof of concept.

[Blacklash93]

Another tweet from Mac Walters. I asked how much longer Sovereign would have been able to keep going if the "Avatar Death = Power Failure" thing weren't the case. Here it is:

"Hard to say exactly, but the good guys would've sustained MUCH heavier losses for sure."

Modifié par Blacklash93, 08 septembre 2011 - 01:15 .