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It seems to me that every companion has their setbacks...


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Okay, so I have to admit that all the companions in DA2 are pretty good fighters, but their personalities usually affect gameplay alot. Which in turn makes it VERY difficult for me to choose my party members. Please tell me I'm not the only one that thinks like this? :/ Anyway, I wanna show you guyswhat I mean.

Carver- Great fighter, but is always really pissy and has issues with mages, making doing pro-mage quests difficult. And he's mean towards Hawke,Merril and Anders.(But he is your brother in the game, so of course he's going to give you lots of crap)

Bethany- Pretty good mage, and really helpful with the elemental attacks. I can't really say much about her, besides the fact that she relies too much on Hawke.

Anders
- Okay, he's a pretty badass mage, he's really powerful AND has a spirit of Justice within him. He's also a Healer. :3 But of course, he has issues with Carver and Fenris. Also, he's a little obsessive over freeing mages. I mean, I believe that mages deserve freedom and all, but what he does in the end took it a little too far.

Aveline- She's an okay warrior, and the only companion with a shield, so she's useful at times. But I honestly think she's really annoying. (She is my least favorite companion out of both Dragon Ages, besides Leliana) And if you do anything that she doesn't consider "the right thing", her rivalry goes up.

Fenris- I think Fenris is a lot like Carver. He's pissy all the time, and doesn't like mages one bit. But he is a great warrior, and can detsroy an enemy in a few hits. And I don't like the fact that he betrays you in the end if you're pro-mage, unless you help him with his personal quest and he finds his sister. What happened to companion loyalty there? >:(

Isabela- Okay, I have to admit that there are many good things about Isabela. 1.She's extremely hot .:3
2. She's a great fighter.  3. She's a rogue, so being able to pick locks is always a plus.  4. She's really funny.  5. She pretty perverted, so listening to the conversations she has with other companions is almost always hilarious.
But having Isabela with you ALWAYS means trouble, especially with the Qunari.

Merril- Merril's a pretty powerful mage, but with her being a blood mage, you know something bad will happen eventually. Merril's pretty awkward around other people, and I honestly think that she can't tell the difference between right or wrong. She's really helpful in combat, but other than that I hate having her around.

Varric- I have to admit that I love Varric. :3 He's funny, a good fighter, and has a crossbow named Bianca. He's also a very good lier. :3

Sebastian- Can't say anything about him, considering I don't have the DLC. (Yet)

Okay, my rant is done.:3 Continue with your lives. Or tell me what you think about all these peoples.

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Its one of the things that I like about DA 2 it makes the cast more human and makes it feel a group of friends just trying to make a life for themselves.. For the most part I just keep in mind peoples likes and dislikes on mission that I am on when I pick my party. Going to kill some Slavers take Fenris, Go take down some corrupt Templars take Anders. Dealing with Qunari let Isabella take the day off and get a spa treatment.

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I have to echo nitefyre410 in the praise of solid characters who seemed realistic. They were all lovingly flawed in some way, and that made for some superb banter and the occasional quandary. I enjoyed the conflict - it made everyone seem less static and allowed them to come off as unique individuals.

To address some of your points:

Bethany - I didn't feel as though she relied too heavily on Hawke. I don't know if this is contingent upon playing a male or female Hawke though (I played the latter). If anything, she is the quintessential little sister. She'll defer to her older sibling, but she'll make her feelings clear. I felt that by Act 3, she was incredibly focused and bad*ss.

Aveline - I am sorry that you found her annoying. I thought she was great! She is the voice of law and conscience. She's that person who is very set in their ways, seemingly unable to budge. I didn't have too much trouble with her rivalry level. Yeah, there were a few moments where she just couldn't be pleased, but those made me laugh. They were a "Yes, of course you would disapprove, but we're doing it anyway" sort of thing.

Fenris - I haven't played a pro-templar run but I've seen video clips of his departure in Act 3. That makes perfect sense though, and is a credit to the character continuity. Having him act otherwise would have been out of character. As far as companion loyalty goes, the ability for any of the companions (aside from Varric) to leave is one of the best things about them. It hearkens back to their viability. Even amongst friends IRL, there will always be one or two areas that are bones of contention and could potentially sever ties. It makes for great drama and conflict.

Isabela - She brings about the best kind of trouble, really.

Merrill - She knows right and wrong, and she has a clear idea of what that difference is for her. Her take just isn't conventional, nor does it match with the general public. She's a risk yes, but has an endearing quality about her. She is one of those people who feels she is doing right and is unshakable in that belief. Some of her party banter in Act 3 though reveals that she recognizes she has made some errors in judgement, but may be at the point of no return.

I didn't have too much difficulty choosing party members. Mostly, I stacked them for specific quests or because I loved the banter. I found myself not using Fenris or Sebastian as much simply because they weren't as interesting to me in comparison to the others. All in all though - it was a great mix of companions.

Modifié par whykikyouwhy, 27 juillet 2011 - 09:43 .


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whykikyouwhy wrote...

I have to echo nitefyre410 in the praise of solid characters who seemed realistic. They were all lovingly flawed in some way, and that made for some superb banter and the occasional quandary. I enjoyed the conflict - it made everyone seem less static and allowed them to come off as unique individuals.

To address some of your points:

Bethany - I didn't feel as though she relied too heavily on Hawke. I don't know if this is contingent upon playing a male or female Hawke though (I played the latter). If anything, she is the quintessential little sister. She'll defer to her older sibling, but she'll make her feelings clear. I felt that by Act 3, she was incredibly focused and bad*ss.

Aveline - I am sorry that you found her annoying. I thought she was great! She is the voice of law and conscience. She's that person who is very set in their ways, seemingly unable to budge. I didn't have too much trouble with her rivalry level. Yeah, there were a few moments where she just couldn't be pleased, but those made me laugh. They were a "Yes, of course you would disapprove, but we're doing it anyway" sort of thing.

Fenris - I haven't played a pro-templar run but I've seen video clips of his departure in Act 3. That makes perfect sense though, and is a credit to the character continuity. Having him act otherwise would have been out of character. As far as companion loyalty goes, the ability for any of the companions (aside from Varric) to leave is one of the best things about them. It hearkens back to their viability. Even amongst friends IRL, there will always be one or two areas that are bones of contention and could potentially sever ties. It makes for great drama and conflict.

Isabela - She brings about the best kind of trouble, really.

Merrill - She knows right and wrong, and she has a clear idea of what that difference is for her. Her take just isn't conventional, nor does it match with the general public. She's a risk yes, but has an endearing quality about her. She is one of those people who feels she is doing right and is unshakable in that belief. Some of her party banter in Act 3 though reveals that she recognizes she has made some errors in judgement, but may be at the point of no return.

I didn't have too much difficulty choosing party members. Mostly, I stacked them for specific quests or because I loved the banter. I found myself not using Fenris or Sebastian as much simply because they weren't as interesting to me in comparison to the others. All in all though - it was a great mix of companions.

 


Betheny - Complete agree , love having her in the party with Isabella  I get a good laugh every time.

Aveline -  My Hawke and Aveline   where like  Batman(Hawke) and Commissioner Gordon(Aveline) they got along and I found  Aveline a voice of Law and order with out a blind notion that the Law is always right.

Fenris - I liked Fenris I REALLY like him but  he should have known how it was going to go if  he sided with Meredith.  I would have l loved he  if he said "You I don't like mages but getting in Hawkes way is just stupid."  

Isabella and Varric - What is there not to like about them?  parteners in crime for me.

Anders - That one friend who is really smart but does some REALLY stupid things sometimes who happens to be in really crappy no win situations all  day every day.   You love em - even if you want to slap him.  

Merrill - Everything that you said... plus I think having a her around Isabella and  Varric is good - puts the world Savy in her. I  enjoy that fact that when I romanced but her Isabella... Isabella pulls my Hawke asided and says "If I hurt she'll cut my balls off." That brought smile to myself  I find the whole Romantic Rivalry rather tireing.  IE Mass Effect 2 when Miranda and  Jack are having the Alpha **** fight...I really just wanted to shot them both.

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Anders- Okay, he's a pretty badass mage, he's really powerful AND has a spirit of Justice within
him. He's also a Healer. :3 But of course, he has issues with Carver and Fenris. Also, he's a little obsessive over freeing mages. I mean, I believe that mages deserve freedom and all, but what he does in the end
took it a little too far
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Actually, I kind of disagree with that.  Rational reasoning with the templars was tried, but they were having none of it.

Innocent people die in wars.  That's one reason why it's such a messy business.  The mages were being treated like dangerous animals.  Cullen even says that they can't be "treated like people".  When Cullen said that, my support was sealed for mages over templars, as it told me everything I needed to know about the Kirkwall templars and none of it was good.

Just remember that even though innocent people on both sides die in any fight, that fact does not mean the cause is not worthy and should not be fought for.

Put more simply, I've got a bit of latin in my sigline that says it a lot more succinctly.

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Bethany: I kind of disagree.  She doesn't seem overly reliant on Hawke, especially if she goes with the Grey Wardens.  In terms of effectiveness, I think she's the single best mage in the party.  She can buff the party with healing and haste, and with Apocalyptic Firestorm she's a walking weapon of mass destruction.

Aveline: yes, she can be very trying at times.  I appreciate what she's trying to do, but she's just a bit too cozy with the templars.  I also get the idea that she'd stand on the side of what she considered "the law" even if the law was obviously wrong or tyrannical.