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tiberius_adamantine

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There are many things to be considered when playing a Bioware game. As a true RPG, this game gives allows you to pick backstory, personality traits, and overall mold a character to the best of our abilities. Some people will script their characters like writers to a story doing what they feel the character would choose, others imprint their own personalities upon the game. Whatever route you take to it, I'm sure that some feel conflicted over who to romance.

An example of this would be between Liara and Tali. Both of these characters have some similar personality traits and overall seem the type to become good friends with each other. What character interaction there was between them in ME seemed to validate this although I would have liked to have seen more between characters. Despite that Liara is actually much older than you, the way that Asari mature makes her "younger" than you in a different way. Both of them fullfill a romance option for those who perfer younger women. They are women of skill which makes them unique, they are compassionate, they fight to help others with a passion few would match, and they both look up to you as a leader. In my latest playthrough I took them both with me on nearly all missions as they seemed to naturally work well together. Given more workspace within the story, I feel that it would be difficult for the Shepard that I scripted to make any defining romantic choice given that he would be attracted to both and therefore conflicted about it.

Seeing as there are many LIs and potential LIs that some people might consider this as well. I'm interested in reading others thoughts on this.

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Well... you could go the ME 'Well, the three of us could...' route with a Liara/Tali conflict
But this will, most likely, leave you with the eminently obsessive-and-blue (not melancholy, you understand) Liara. Bless her heart...

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I know that you could talk about a duel relationship in the first but I think that had different implications. I'm talking about actual relationship depth rather than perversion

Modifié par tiberius_adamantine, 27 juillet 2011 - 07:15 .


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WoolyJoe

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Alas, if you're not clear, you must make the simple and bold 'choice' between the two
Either simply - or somewhat harshly, if you're of the 'Renegade' persuasion - turn-them-down when they first show any romantic interest in you in favour of the other interest - a pre-emptive 'choosing' - or face the consequences, whatever they may be, in the final instalment. I'd view it as insensitive - maladroit, maybe? - to either switch between the two based on convenience (Liara, Tali, Liara; for example: "Liara's gone, so hello Tali! Oh, wait, no; she's back. Hello again, Liara!") or simply engage into a surreal 'Love Triangle

But, if you're going for a 'personally tailored' Commander Shepard, then you're going to have to, quite faithfully adhere to BioWare's parameters. Say, for example, you were playing as the female Shepard, but wished to - or 'scripted' your Shepard to - only like Tali romantically, you'd have to, in a way, just sit by and 'brood'. For, as far as I'm aware, she's only interested in the male Shepard. This wouldn't stop Shepard from caring for her, but the guidelines stop anything from happening

So, again, alas, you must make a choice if that's the situation you find 'yourShepard' in

Edit: I'm only using Tali and Liara because they were used as the original examples, and I didn't mean to use the ME1 'compromise' example in any lurid sense - it's just the only choice if you don't want to explicitly 'choose' after romancing two companions

Modifié par WoolyJoe, 27 juillet 2011 - 09:00 .


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tiberius_adamantine wrote...

I know that you could talk about a duel relationship in the first but I think that had different implications. I'm talking about actual relationship depth rather than perversion


Polygamous relationships don't necessarily equal perversion......

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Fidget6 wrote...

tiberius_adamantine wrote...

I know that you could talk about a duel relationship in the first but I think that had different implications. I'm talking about actual relationship depth rather than perversion


Polygamous relationships don't necessarily equal perversion......


I admit I never explored the Liara-Ashley triangle but my understanding of Shepard's answer to that wasn't a serious discussion but a "let's have a three way" sort of deal and that's what I was commenting on. I do agree that polygamous relationships aren't always a matter of perversion and can be rather complicated. It just depends on the situation.

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There aren't ahy LIs with similar traits available simultaneously. All of cases may be separated on:

- situation first: LI has changed a lot. My Mark likes younger, shy girls, so he went fot Liara in ME1. In ME2, when he arrived on Illium and saw how Liara has changed, he immediately changed his mind and went for Tali. If Tali would also experience face turn, he will abandon her and look for a new naive lady. If.

- situation two: situation is different, Shepard changed. My Alyson normally likes calm, reserved guys, so in theory she could get along with Thane well. If not relationships with Kaidan in ME1 and their sudden end (Shepard can't know forward about events of ME3, so she thinks this was the end) in ME2. Now she's too disappointed in love and not likely will be involved in romance in nearby future, no matter how tempting it will be.

- situation three: Shepard grabs whatever is possible now. My John likes women who acts first and commanding him, so he... no, not went for Ashley. It was more "allowed Ashley to take him" in ME1. In ME2, he couldn't make minds on his own, so when Tali started to speak about "linking suits" he allowed her to do what she wanted. This situation isn't about personal connection, it's about "have romance no matter what".

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mineralica wrote...

There aren't ahy LIs with similar traits available simultaneously. All of cases may be separated on:

- situation first: LI has changed a lot. My Mark likes younger, shy girls, so he went fot Liara in ME1. In ME2, when he arrived on Illium and saw how Liara has changed, he immediately changed his mind and went for Tali. If Tali would also experience face turn, he will abandon her and look for a new naive lady. If.

- situation two: situation is different, Shepard changed. My Alyson normally likes calm, reserved guys, so in theory she could get along with Thane well. If not relationships with Kaidan in ME1 and their sudden end (Shepard can't know forward about events of ME3, so she thinks this was the end) in ME2. Now she's too disappointed in love and not likely will be involved in romance in nearby future, no matter how tempting it will be.

- situation three: Shepard grabs whatever is possible now. My John likes women who acts first and commanding him, so he... no, not went for Ashley. It was more "allowed Ashley to take him" in ME1. In ME2, he couldn't make minds on his own, so when Tali started to speak about "linking suits" he allowed her to do what she wanted. This situation isn't about personal connection, it's about "have romance no matter what".


since they are not available at the same time Bioware has prevented you from scripting about it but that may not remain true with the third game. What I was considering was that in the first game, my designed paragade shepard liked Liara and Tali. Tali wasn't available then but Liara was. As far as I could tell, It wouldn't be possible to admit an attraction to Liara, but be more reserved, then follow through the same thing with Tali. They both fullfill his "type" and have many great qualities. I was wondering if anyone else discovered similar situations when designing their shepard's story.

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If Kadain is anything like Jacob who called Garrus a "Cuttle bone"... I think thats wat Jacob said...

Then Kaidan will end up like space dust... just face the fact that you lost your chance on horizon... Plus Shepard moved on thinking you ended it, so there. lol

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