Morrigans baby/old god.
Qui'nari agreesively advancing.
Tension between kingdoms (orlesians/fereldan but whatever)
Dark spawn somehow linked to the old god, maybe attracted to it.
Chantry and mage stuff.
DA:3 has so much potential. DA:2 style means the series is dead to me but if they magically did an updated Origins style with above kind of plot, i'd sex wee.
When do you think we'll see Morrigan again?
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#27
Posté 10 août 2011 - 04:43
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furryrage59 wrote...
Morrigans baby/old god.
Qui'nari agreesively advancing.
Tension between kingdoms (orlesians/fereldan but whatever)
Dark spawn somehow linked to the old god, maybe attracted to it.
Chantry and mage stuff.
DA:3 has so much potential. DA:2 style means the series is dead to me but if they magically did an updated Origins style with above kind of plot, i'd sex wee.
I seriously loved the Qunari.... though the lack of females was... odd. I hope they come back with a vengeance. They're a worthy enemy.
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Posté 10 août 2011 - 10:03
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XCRmonger wrote...
furryrage59 wrote...
Morrigans baby/old god.
Qui'nari agreesively advancing.
Tension between kingdoms (orlesians/fereldan but whatever)
Dark spawn somehow linked to the old god, maybe attracted to it.
Chantry and mage stuff.
DA:3 has so much potential. DA:2 style means the series is dead to me but if they magically did an updated Origins style with above kind of plot, i'd sex wee.
I seriously loved the Qunari.... though the lack of females was... odd. I hope they come back with a vengeance. They're a worthy enemy.
Some plotline where the women rise up, wanting to be warriors after taking inspiration from the main character or something might be a nice excuse to see them/visit their lands.
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Posté 10 août 2011 - 11:50
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XCRmonger wrote...
I seriously loved the Qunari.... though the lack of females was... odd. I hope they come back with a vengeance. They're a worthy enemy.
furryrage59 wrote...
Some plotline where the women rise
up, wanting to be warriors after taking inspiration from the main
character or something might be a nice excuse to see them/visit their
lands.
Ever since I saw the new DA Art style I was hoping for a female Qunari romance.
Heres a good fan art.
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Posté 16 août 2011 - 11:42
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^^^ So they made the female qunari and dwarves, so why haven't they used them in DA2? Also the 2nd pic looks like a gray tattooed DA2 Flemeth.
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Posté 25 août 2011 - 05:49
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Hawke is going to be a companion. Why do you think that even after all the hype on more story variety to make up for the preset character, you where so limited in DA2 on actually affecting the world, and your own character? When DA3 comes out and Hawke is a specific person, you'll still be able to say 'that's just like Hawke'. And with them adding more mystery to Morrigan, her DLC ending in a cliff hanger, and talks of the Warden going missing at the end of DA2.(no matter your decisions in DA:O) Will you really be surprised when you're the Warden, and Morrigan and Hawke are companions in DA3? You still got companions and cameos if people actually died in Origins, so would Morrigan be a strange companion if you chose to TRY to kill her in Witch Hunt?
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Posté 26 août 2011 - 02:13
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*** SPOILERS ***
What if the Warden refused the ritual?
Would it be retconned again, like the dead Warden in Awakening? There is even the possibility, after Witch Hunt, that the Warden refused the ritual, she still has his (god-less!) child and he, her true love, follows her through the mirror. What becomes of him (OK, he can be narrated out easily, but what about the "normal" child?
What is/was she planning anyway, if the latter is the case?
What if the Warden refused the ritual?
Would it be retconned again, like the dead Warden in Awakening? There is even the possibility, after Witch Hunt, that the Warden refused the ritual, she still has his (god-less!) child and he, her true love, follows her through the mirror. What becomes of him (OK, he can be narrated out easily, but what about the "normal" child?
What is/was she planning anyway, if the latter is the case?
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Posté 30 août 2011 - 04:10
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DA3 defiantly since she'll play a huge role in it.
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I believe that the child you have from the Dark Ritual will end up being the PC for the 3rd game. Especially when she was talking about things to come dealing with Flemeth.
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It just seemed to scream that to me lol
*SPOILER ALERT*
I believe that the child you have from the Dark Ritual will end up being the PC for the 3rd game. Especially when she was talking about things to come dealing with Flemeth.
*END SPOLIER ALERT*
It just seemed to scream that to me lol
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Posté 30 août 2011 - 07:13
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Flemeth and Morrigan seem to be the only ones clued in the big 'change' that's going to happen. Flemeth appeared in DA2 so I guess it's only logical that DA3 has some Morrigan time. If she's killed by the Warden in Witch Hunt, maybe you'll have to follow the trail she left behind to find out something...
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Posté 31 août 2011 - 02:57
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AstoundingArcaneArcher wrote...
Flemeth and Morrigan seem to be the only ones clued in the big 'change' that's going to happen. Flemeth appeared in DA2 so I guess it's only logical that DA3 has some Morrigan time. If she's killed by the Warden in Witch Hunt, maybe you'll have to follow the trail she left behind to find out something...
That's true. Personally, i believe that Flemeth wil end up being the final boss of the 3rd game, or something of the sort. It seems fiting imo
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Posté 31 août 2011 - 07:01
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-- Warning, tons of spoilers bellow -- (why is everyone so wary about spoilers here btw? 'tis not a no spoilers forum...)
I wouldn't be surprised to see Flemeth, Morrigan and the baby despite the possible choices regarding the last two, Bioware brought Leliana back in DA:2 no matter your choices in DA:O.
However, I don't believe the PC will be the baby, nor that the Warden or Hawke will be companions. Both shaped the new age, the Warden by defeating the blight and through small actions throughout Ferelden, Hawke by bringing the corrupted idol to the surface and taking part into the mages uprising.
We know the darkspawn seek old gods and there's a schism withing their ranks since the rise of the Architect.
We know Thedas is torn apart, 10 years after the blight, with the events in Kirkwall, possibly a lot of mages/templars fights throughout the world.
Flemeth taught the dark ritual to Morrigan and handed her over to the Warden to perform it, so it's fairly obvious Flemeth has a very strong interest in this child.
However, the child is at best 10 years old, so no way it's gonna be a PC if Bioware wants to keep a continuous storyline, imagine the age of Hawke, the Warden and the other characters that may be ported over from DA:O or DA:2 to DA:3, they'd be elders by the time the child got old enough to become a PC.
Now, considering the dire situation after DA:2, what I really expect from DA:3, is to take us in Tevinter, Orlais and Par Vollen (and I'd love to finally see Weisshaupt!). Everything started from Ferelden with the blight and spread to the Free Marshes, I wouldn't be surprised if the third game would be "Thedas-wide". Ok, I admit it's a bit of a wish more than an insight, but it would be great if we had a mix of Qunari invasion threat, Tevinter magisters threat and play a PC from Orlais, recruited by the chantry seekers, maybe Leliana, to restore order in Thedas or maybe change this order depending on our choices.
One thing I remember from DA:2 that caught my attention, was the Wardens you meet during the Qunari invasion, they were on something important enough to dismiss the crisis in Kirkwall... what can we think about that? I don't believe it's related to Legacy. That leads me to believe something important will also be happening that involves Darkspawn.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Flemeth, Morrigan and the baby despite the possible choices regarding the last two, Bioware brought Leliana back in DA:2 no matter your choices in DA:O.
However, I don't believe the PC will be the baby, nor that the Warden or Hawke will be companions. Both shaped the new age, the Warden by defeating the blight and through small actions throughout Ferelden, Hawke by bringing the corrupted idol to the surface and taking part into the mages uprising.
We know the darkspawn seek old gods and there's a schism withing their ranks since the rise of the Architect.
We know Thedas is torn apart, 10 years after the blight, with the events in Kirkwall, possibly a lot of mages/templars fights throughout the world.
Flemeth taught the dark ritual to Morrigan and handed her over to the Warden to perform it, so it's fairly obvious Flemeth has a very strong interest in this child.
However, the child is at best 10 years old, so no way it's gonna be a PC if Bioware wants to keep a continuous storyline, imagine the age of Hawke, the Warden and the other characters that may be ported over from DA:O or DA:2 to DA:3, they'd be elders by the time the child got old enough to become a PC.
Now, considering the dire situation after DA:2, what I really expect from DA:3, is to take us in Tevinter, Orlais and Par Vollen (and I'd love to finally see Weisshaupt!). Everything started from Ferelden with the blight and spread to the Free Marshes, I wouldn't be surprised if the third game would be "Thedas-wide". Ok, I admit it's a bit of a wish more than an insight, but it would be great if we had a mix of Qunari invasion threat, Tevinter magisters threat and play a PC from Orlais, recruited by the chantry seekers, maybe Leliana, to restore order in Thedas or maybe change this order depending on our choices.
One thing I remember from DA:2 that caught my attention, was the Wardens you meet during the Qunari invasion, they were on something important enough to dismiss the crisis in Kirkwall... what can we think about that? I don't believe it's related to Legacy. That leads me to believe something important will also be happening that involves Darkspawn.
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Posté 31 août 2011 - 12:01
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***SPOILERS!!***
(Oh, JayDea, you are right - thought I was on the General board, where this discussion probably belongs... anyway, I'd say Spoiler-free boards have to be absolutely spoiler-free, while here you mark your posts with "SPOILER" just in case, so poeple can skip over them if they want)
I don't think the child can appear without retconning possible events in DA:O and Witch Hunt, namely, the child existing but NOT carrying the Old God, which is a possibility, if the Warden refused the ritual and was in love with Morrigan. Also, what are Morrigan's plans in Witch Hunt, without the Old God Child... either this or Witch Hunt will be declared non-canon (which wouldn't solve the ritual refusal)...
(Oh, JayDea, you are right - thought I was on the General board, where this discussion probably belongs... anyway, I'd say Spoiler-free boards have to be absolutely spoiler-free, while here you mark your posts with "SPOILER" just in case, so poeple can skip over them if they want)
I don't think the child can appear without retconning possible events in DA:O and Witch Hunt, namely, the child existing but NOT carrying the Old God, which is a possibility, if the Warden refused the ritual and was in love with Morrigan. Also, what are Morrigan's plans in Witch Hunt, without the Old God Child... either this or Witch Hunt will be declared non-canon (which wouldn't solve the ritual refusal)...
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Posté 31 août 2011 - 01:19
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* Usual spoiler warning *
As much as I've played DA:O, I've never brought Morrigan along much, I only romanced her once because I mostly play female Warden (I may be tempted to make a male mean-looking beardy dwarf, but then again, I don't think I'll romance her, alas, I guess I won't even bother being friendly to my companions, ruthless commoner powah!).
I picked the Dark Ritual when I wanted Alistair to survive (I'll never let the Secret Companion make the final blow, better let him die the hard Warden way, in the deep roads when his time comes) or my Warden to survive to be ported over to Awakenning.
As far as I'm concerned, what I mentionned earlier is more my own hopes for DA:3, but since you mention it, I've been disappointed multiple times with DA:2 and I'm wary of Bioware's decisions regarding DA:3.
I find the whole Flemeth/Morrigan/OGB very interesting. Being a choice, the OGB can't be central to the story, but Flemeth and Morrigan can. Alas, we all know how our choices in DA:O had been carried over in DA:2, so again, I remain skeptical.
!!! Mass-Effect spoiler !!! (hell yeah!)
Actually, I wouldn't even be surprised if the OGB became central to DA:3, the beginning of ME3 is the direct result of a DLC wich has been made canon, despite being optional. Thus, regarding Witch Hunt, Bioware might easily make the same decision.
As much as I've played DA:O, I've never brought Morrigan along much, I only romanced her once because I mostly play female Warden (I may be tempted to make a male mean-looking beardy dwarf, but then again, I don't think I'll romance her, alas, I guess I won't even bother being friendly to my companions, ruthless commoner powah!).
I picked the Dark Ritual when I wanted Alistair to survive (I'll never let the Secret Companion make the final blow, better let him die the hard Warden way, in the deep roads when his time comes) or my Warden to survive to be ported over to Awakenning.
As far as I'm concerned, what I mentionned earlier is more my own hopes for DA:3, but since you mention it, I've been disappointed multiple times with DA:2 and I'm wary of Bioware's decisions regarding DA:3.
I find the whole Flemeth/Morrigan/OGB very interesting. Being a choice, the OGB can't be central to the story, but Flemeth and Morrigan can. Alas, we all know how our choices in DA:O had been carried over in DA:2, so again, I remain skeptical.
!!! Mass-Effect spoiler !!! (hell yeah!)
Actually, I wouldn't even be surprised if the OGB became central to DA:3, the beginning of ME3 is the direct result of a DLC wich has been made canon, despite being optional. Thus, regarding Witch Hunt, Bioware might easily make the same decision.
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Posté 01 septembre 2011 - 10:09
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You can't kill Morrigan in Witch Hunt. You can try, but she just escapes through the portal sans any blood spilt from the murder knife.AstoundingArcaneArcher wrote...
Flemeth and Morrigan seem to be the only ones clued in the big 'change' that's going to happen. Flemeth appeared in DA2 so I guess it's only logical that DA3 has some Morrigan time. If she's killed by the Warden in Witch Hunt, maybe you'll have to follow the trail she left behind to find out something...
But of course, it doesn't matter anyway. Death never stopped a character from re-appearing in a Bioware game.
I killed Anders in DA:A. Yet he re-appears as a plot critical companion in DA2.... until you kill him again. And something tells me that he'll probably re-appear in a future DA title as well. Fitting, I suppose, since he's all into cats. Cats have nine lives.
This is called "retconning", btw. Bioware are the masters of it.
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Posté 01 septembre 2011 - 10:15
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^This.Marvin_Arnold wrote...
I don't think the child can appear without retconning possible events in DA:O and Witch Hunt, namely, the child existing but NOT carrying the Old God, which is a possibility, if the Warden refused the ritual and was in love with Morrigan. Also, what are Morrigan's plans in Witch Hunt, without the Old God Child... either this or Witch Hunt will be declared non-canon (which wouldn't solve the ritual refusal)...
And for what its worth, I remember one of the devs saying that the OGB isn't Canon, anyway.
We HAVE gotten (recent) confirmation that Morrigan is a critical character in the DA world though, and that she will be appearing in Future titles. Really, that's good enough for me, as I found her to be the most interesting Video game character I've ever encountered.
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Posté 01 septembre 2011 - 05:36
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Yrkoon wrote...
And for what its worth, I remember one of the devs saying that the OGB isn't Canon, anyway.
Even if DA-A and WH weren't canon as a whole, the Dark Ritual and the possibility of a resulting OGB is a critical plot point in DA:O, and the plot of the very original game should be canon in a franchise without questioning, dontcha?
This seems to be one of those cases where a game is more intelligent than its developer(s)...
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Posté 01 septembre 2011 - 05:47
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Dark Ritual is canon, the OGB isn't (yet). I imagine we'll see Morrigan in DA3 either way, but the OGB will be included if you followed that path. I imagine it will be a trick for Bioware to finesse it.
BTW-Why is this thread in the character build forum?
BTW-Why is this thread in the character build forum?
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Posté 02 septembre 2011 - 02:54
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With her getting the GB an option, a dlc would be more likely then it being included in the main game. But she was in Orlais (rumored to be where DA3 will take place) so her actions there might still have repercussions. The Emperor requesting Sandal might not have been a coincidence... What are you planning Morrigan? Whatever it is I bet it has something to do with Flemeth's plans (even if Morrigan doesn't know it)
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Posté 02 septembre 2011 - 10:11
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I think we all have different perceptions about what "canon" and what "established" means.Mike Smith wrote...
Dark Ritual is canon, the OGB isn't (yet).
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Posté 18 octobre 2011 - 12:20
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Qunari enemy? they was the most decent and reasonable of the three in DA2...if there was a choice a would choose the qunari and wipe kirkwall to the ground and restart fresh...both templars and mages are @ssesXCRmonger wrote...
I seriously loved the Qunari.... though the lack of females was... odd. I hope they come back with a vengeance. They're a worthy enemy.
