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[clerkenwell]

You better believe that my Paragade Shep will shoot him right in the face if she gets a chance. He doesn't get a free pass by invoking the greater good. His perception of the greater good is suspect at best. He's a dangerous, power-hungry, xenophobic sociopath. For each of his good deeds, he's committed an atrocity as well. The galaxy, and even humanity, will be better off without him.

[JukeFrog]

Kill him and set Miranda up as the new head of Cerberus.

[Bad King]

JukeFrog wrote...

Kill him and set Miranda up as the new head of Cerberus.

Yeah it's not like she wanted to insert a control chip into Shepard or anything (an idea opposed by TIM).

[The Big Nothing]

For Akuze.

[Jeth Prime]

Bad King wrote...

JukeFrog wrote...

Kill him and set Miranda up as the new head of Cerberus.

Yeah it's not like she wanted to insert a control chip into Shepard or anything (an idea opposed by TIM).

Yeah, but that's before she asked you to meet her in the engine room.

[Uzrbital]

Kill him. I wanna be a freelancer.

[Bad King]

The Big Nothing wrote...

For Akuze.

Akuze was commited prior to the split between Cerberus and the Alliance. If you blame TIM for that, then you'll probably also want to blame quite a few Alliance officials.

[Markinator_123]

Bad King wrote...

JukeFrog wrote...

Kill him and set Miranda up as the new head of Cerberus.

Yeah it's not like she wanted to insert a control chip into Shepard or anything (an idea opposed by TIM).

It is stupid picking Miranda as the new leader of Cerberus for that very reason.

[JukeFrog]

Bad King wrote...

JukeFrog wrote...

Kill him and set Miranda up as the new head of Cerberus.

Yeah it's not like she wanted to insert a control chip into Shepard or anything (an idea opposed by TIM).

Wanting to put a control chip in Shepard's brain makes perfect sense. Plus she's capable of compassion (ex. Oriana), unlike TIM who seems to have forsaken everything for the pursuit of power.

[Robhuzz]

I feel the paragon 'let TIM live' option will bite you in the ass pretty quickly. TIM is not someone who would just give up. He's against Shepard now, the only way he'll stop if either one of them is dead. That said, I will kill TIM if I get the chance in ME3, even with my most paragon characters.

[Bad King]

JukeFrog wrote...

Bad King wrote...

JukeFrog wrote...

Kill him and set Miranda up as the new head of Cerberus.

Yeah it's not like she wanted to insert a control chip into Shepard or anything (an idea opposed by TIM).

Wanting to put a control chip in Shepard's brain makes perfect sense. Plus she's capable of compassion (ex. Oriana), unlike TIM who seems to have forsaken everything for the pursuit of power.

According to the comic, TIM is also capable of compassion.

[assassin of Keelah]

I will make sure Cerberus is completely eradicated no matter the circumstances. At the very least the Illusive Man will die.

[MisterJB]

Bad King wrote...

JukeFrog wrote...

Kill him and set Miranda up as the new head of Cerberus.

Yeah it's not like she wanted to insert a control chip into Shepard or anything (an idea opposed by TIM).

So? It was a very reasonable security measure taken against a dangerous and highly trained man/woman that  had destroyed several of Cerberus' facilities and killed their personell. Not to mention that Cerberus was pouring billions of credits into Shepard and placing the fate of the entire human race on the commander's hands.
Having a way of making sure that s/he doesn't betray them or do anything that migth compromise the entire mission is a very sensible decision. I'm sure Miranda doesn't put control chips on the brains of just anyone.

Let's instead speak of how Miranda was always against Cerberus' most heinous actions like the enslavement of the Rachni, the torture of children in Pragia and keeping the Collector base.

Modifié par MisterJB, 27 juillet 2011 - 07:39 .

[Uzrbital]

I did everything I could to join the Alliance again, but noooo, it didn't work.

[mulder1199]

kill him...."he's too dangerous to be left alive"

[Bad King]

MisterJB wrote...

Bad King wrote...

JukeFrog wrote...

Kill him and set Miranda up as the new head of Cerberus.

Yeah it's not like she wanted to insert a control chip into Shepard or anything (an idea opposed by TIM).

Let's instead speak of how Miranda was always against Cerberus' most heinous actions like the enslavement of the Rachni, the torture of children in Pragia and keeping the Collector base.

Actually Miranda supported Cerberus's operations in ME1, she attempts to convince Shepard that Cerberus were doing their experiments in ME1 for the right reasons- to save human lives (and I agree with her to a degree). At Pragia and on the Collector ship (when it's revealed that TIM wasn't telling Shepard everything) she staunchly defended TIM. The only time she turned against him was with the Collector Base.

Modifié par Bad King, 27 juillet 2011 - 07:44 .

[Markinator_123]

MisterJB wrote...

Bad King wrote...

JukeFrog wrote...

Kill him and set Miranda up as the new head of Cerberus.

Yeah it's not like she wanted to insert a control chip into Shepard or anything (an idea opposed by TIM).

So? It was a very reasonable security measure taken against a dangerous and highly trained man/woman that  had destroyed several of Cerberus' facilities and killed their personell. Not to mention that Cerberus was pouring billions of credits into Shepard and placing the fate of the entire human race on the commander's hands.
Having a way of making sure that he doesn't betray them or do anything that migth compromise the entire mission is a very sensible decision.

Let's instead speak of how Miranda was always against Cerberus' most heinous actions like the enslavement of the Rachni, the torture of children in Pragia and keeping the Collector base.

Putting a control chip in someone's head is heinous. Besides, Miranda as the so called "protector of humanity" which is what Illusive Man calls himself, would be a complete joke. Humanity already has a protector. His (or her) name is Commander Shepard not some woman who seems to be looking for a wardrobe malfuction.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

If he's indoctrinated = dead TIM

Not indoctrinated = spare TIM

But can Shepard detect indoctrination?

[dahoughtonuk]

Depends on multiple reasons. Is he indoctrinated. Is he necessary is he useful, is he a problem? can my renegades take over?

Still that's a lot of questions.

[MisterJB]

Bad King wrote...

Actually Miranda supported Cerberus's operations in ME1, she attempts to convince Shepard that Cerberus were doing their experiments in ME1 for the right reasons- to save human lives (and I agree with her to a degree).

She defends using Husks and Creepers to save human lives but also says that Cerberus stopped experimenting on Rachni once they understood their intelligence and she seems to agree with this decision.
 

At Pragia and on the Collector ship (when it's revealed that TIM wasn't telling Shepard everything) she staunchly defended TIM. The only time she turned against him was with the Collector Base.

The videologs Shepard finds in Pragia prove that the facility had gone rogue. She defends Cerberus (not TIM, mind you) but if you talk to her afterwards when Jack is not around, she will admit that what happened at Pragia was a mistake that Cerberus needed to correct.
As for the Collector ship, it's obvious that she had faith in The Illusive Man and so, did not believe that he would betray them. We don't know what were her feelings in the matter once the entire truth came to ligth.

Markinator_123 wrote...
Putting a control chip in someone's head is heinous.

Not, it is not. Like with most things, it depends on your reasons to do so. Miranda had good reasons that I elaborated upon on my previous post.

Humanity already has a protector. His (or her) name is Commander Shepard
 

There are many ways to protect the human race. The Alliance is needed and so is Cerberus.

not some woman who seems to be looking for a wardrobe malfuction.

Rigth, focus on her wardrobe instead of her amazing mind, superior intellect, determination, selflessness.

[The Mythical Magician]

Matters..but killing is my last option so I would try and spare him if I can but if he is "lost" then I force him to commit suicide like I did with Saren

[DxWill10]

The REAL question is: Which choice will be paragon and which renegade?

[gamer_girl]

I'd kill him without question. That guy's got a lot of nerve.

[Reciever80]

Put Miranda in charge, it's what I would do. Although before I saw the guy's post who suggested that, I was gonna say keep him alive, but put someone else in charge, or at least make him less powerful.

[Markinator_123]

I really don't understand why people who are planning on sparing the Illusive Man. I mean, seriously?!?