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[Han Shot First]

Kill.

My canon Shep only worked with Cerberus out of necessity. His loyalty lies with the Alliance.

[Markinator_123]

MisterJB wrote...

Bad King wrote...

Actually Miranda supported Cerberus's operations in ME1, she attempts to convince Shepard that Cerberus were doing their experiments in ME1 for the right reasons- to save human lives (and I agree with her to a degree).

She defends using Husks and Creepers to save human lives but also says that Cerberus stopped experimenting on Rachni once they understood their intelligence and she seems to agree with this decision.
 

At Pragia and on the Collector ship (when it's revealed that TIM wasn't telling Shepard everything) she staunchly defended TIM. The only time she turned against him was with the Collector Base.

The videologs Shepard finds in Pragia prove that the facility had gone rogue. She defends Cerberus (not TIM, mind you) but if you talk to her afterwards when Jack is not around, she will admit that what happened at Pragia was a mistake that Cerberus needed to correct.
As for the Collector ship, it's obvious that she had faith in The Illusive Man and so, did not believe that he would betray them. We don't know what were her feelings in the matter once the entire truth came to ligth.

Markinator_123 wrote...
Putting a control chip in someone's head is heinous.

Not, it is not. Like with most things, it depends on your reasons to do so. Miranda had good reasons that I elaborated upon on my previous post.

Humanity already has a protector. His (or her) name is Commander Shepard
 

There are many ways to protect the human race. The Alliance is needed and so is Cerberus.

not some woman who seems to be looking for a wardrobe malfuction.

Rigth, focus on her wardrobe instead of her amazing mind, superior intellect, determination, selflessness.

You say putting a control chip in someone's head is for security purposes and I call it reprehensible. Doing that is essentially taking away what makes a person human. Bringing someone back to life to be a puppet for a terrorist organization (so called anyway) is just disgusting. I wouldn't want Miranda as the leader of Cerberus unless there is someone else keeping her in check.

[ZenJestr]

if he's indoctrinated, kill him....

otherwise, I'd spare him

[Seboist]

Spare, my Shepard will sooner take a bullet for him than kill him.

[pablodurando]

Spare, he's my best friend in the entire galaxy, we watch My Little Pony together every week.

[ThatDancingTurian]

Kill him. Never liked the guy. He's constantly going behind everyone's back for his own interests and denying responsibility for his organization's atrocities. Besides, I tend to play Sole Survivor Shepards, so there's a definite bone to pick.

Modifié par Aris Ravenstar, 27 juillet 2011 - 09:10 .

[Malanek]

Well we don't have any context, but unless there is demonstrable prrof that he was double crossing the Reapers then I would be inclined to kill him and replace him with Miranda to take control of Cerberus. But on another play through I would let him live to see what happens.

[Icinix]

Were we using guns with cooldowns - wouldn't hesitate to shoot him.

With thermal clips, well, not worth the ammo wasted.

...might get Jack to Biotically crush him though...

[Avilia]

Nuke him from orbit. Its the only way to be sure.

[Dasher1010]

Let's see, he's a racist, experiments on children, murders Alliance Admirals and wants Reaper technology for himself. Why does the world need a man like that?

[Hurbster]

I'll murderknife him.

Modifié par Hurbster, 27 juillet 2011 - 09:33 .

[Seboist]

Dasher1010 wrote...

Let's see, he's a racist, experiments on children, murders Alliance Admirals and wants Reaper technology for himself. Why does the world need a man like that?

False, he boned an Asari Matriach TWICE ....... in one week!

[Markinator_123]

I hope we get to overkill him.

[dahoughtonuk]

Seboist wrote...

Dasher1010 wrote...

Let's see, he's a racist, experiments on children, murders Alliance Admirals and wants Reaper technology for himself. Why does the world need a man like that?

False, he boned an Asari Matriach TWICE ....... in one week!

Probably  a nicer way to broker information,

[Icinix]

Seboist wrote...

Dasher1010 wrote...

Let's see, he's a racist, experiments on children, murders Alliance Admirals and wants Reaper technology for himself. Why does the world need a man like that?

False, he boned an Asari Matriach TWICE ....... in one week!

Yeah - but he played a dominatrix with a penchant for punishing other races for being naughty other races *taps nose*

Saw it on a leaked CerberusTube channel.

[nijnij]

I'll spare him, cancer will get him soon enough.

[bleetman]

I'm not sure one death is sufficient for the amount of suffering that wretch has caused.

[Hathur]

Shoot out both his eyes then drop a nuclear bomb on his corpse... then go home being hailed as a "Big guddamn hero".

I really dislike him... if not for the simple fact there was no option to refuse working with him in Me2 

Modifié par Hathur, 27 juillet 2011 - 09:48 .

[Malanek]

Seboist wrote...

Dasher1010 wrote...

Let's see, he's a racist, experiments on children, murders Alliance Admirals and wants Reaper technology for himself. Why does the world need a man like that?

False, he boned an Asari Matriach TWICE ....... in one week!

This doesn't, in any way, prove he is not a racist. I think the comments about racism are somewhat unfounded though. I haven't read all the comics or books so I don't know as much about his personality as some but in the game he didn't really strike me as someone who was racist.

[Icinix]

Malanek999 wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Dasher1010 wrote...

Let's see, he's a racist, experiments on children, murders Alliance Admirals and wants Reaper technology for himself. Why does the world need a man like that?

False, he boned an Asari Matriach TWICE ....... in one week!

This doesn't, in any way, prove he is not a racist. I think the comments about racism are somewhat unfounded though. I haven't read all the comics or books so I don't know as much about his personality as some but in the game he didn't really strike me as someone who was racist.

Yeah  - Even after reading all the books and comics, I don't see him as Racist - just (and I am aware its a very , VERY fine line to be standing on) see him as human supremist.  But of course that could lead to a bit of a discussion about what is racism and that could lead to arguments and bans...so I'm just going to quietly exit forum left.

[Icinix]

bleetman wrote...

I'm not sure one death is sufficient for the amount of suffering that wretch has caused.

Miranda + Lazarus project = Many, many deaths for TIM?

I like your thinking!

[bleetman]

Icinix wrote...

Miranda + Lazarus project = Many, many deaths for TIM?

I like your thinking!

Would that those were the only things Cerberus has ever gotten up to.

[Seboist]

Malanek999 wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Dasher1010 wrote...

Let's see, he's a racist, experiments on children, murders Alliance Admirals and wants Reaper technology for himself. Why does the world need a man like that?

False, he boned an Asari Matriach TWICE ....... in one week!

This doesn't, in any way, prove he is not a racist. I think the comments about racism are somewhat unfounded though. I haven't read all the comics or books so I don't know as much about his personality as some but in the game he didn't really strike me as someone who was racist.

He isn't a racist. It's just the TIM haters needing to invent reasons to hate him as usual.

[Siansonea]

 Exterminate!!!!