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[haroldhardluck]

I just started Legacy and can immediately see some possibilities for different events depending on when I start the quest and who I take along. It looks like this DLC can be replayed with different possibilities. So
what have others found? I started in Act 2 with Merrill, Aveline and
Varric with Bethany in the Wardens.

I am curious as to what people found when...

1. You start Legacy before the Deep Roads.
2, After the Deep Roads when your sibling is a warden, dead or left behind.

When Varric is along, you find out more about Bianca but what happens with the sibling in the party before the Deep Roads? There are so many potential combinations and I would like to find out what ones are worth replaying. It appears that keeping all those save games is going to pay off with Legacy.

Harold

[RGDekta]

I went with level 5 char with aveline bethany varric and it was intresting (this was right after you entered the city)

[Robhuzz]

So far all I know is if you take you LI and Bethany/Carver while in act 3, your sibling will comment on your romance. If they're alive, both Bethany and Carver will be availabe for the DLC btw, regardless of where they are right now. They'll be given leave to help Hawke in this family matter. Varric has some extra dialogue, like you mentioned already. Anders is also supposed to have some extra dialogue. Too bad I don't have a good character left where he is alive after act 3...

Modifié par Robhuzz, 27 juillet 2011 - 09:33 .

[pagerunner]

Anders is also supposed to have some extra dialogue.

Lots of it. You'll get a lot of commentary on Warden & mage lore from him throughout the proceedings; I had a Warden Carver with me as well and that made for some interesting dialogue exchanges between the two of them. Moreover, since Anders has been a Warden for a while now, and the taint's stronger in him than in Carver/Bethany, he's uniquely affected by Corypheus' call. Other characters will comment on this. And occasionally, er, intervene. You might say Justice is one of them.....

Modifié par pagerunner, 28 juillet 2011 - 02:09 .

[Raya Aroukii]

pagerunner wrote...

Anders is also supposed to have some extra dialogue.

Lots of it. You'll get a lot of commentary on Warden & mage lore from him throughout the proceedings; I had a Warden Carver with me as well and that made for some interesting dialogue exchanges between the two of them. Moreover, since Anders has been a Warden for a while now, and the taint's stronger in him than in Carver/Bethany, he's uniquely affected by Corypheus' call. Other characters will comment on this. And occasionally, er, intervene. You might say Justice is one of them.....

Which is kind of heartbreaking, if you bring along a romanced Anders...

[Tragic_Arsenic]

I did two run-throughs.

Mage!Bethany, Anders, and Varric (Act 2, Before All That Remains)- By far the most lore and story-progressive group. You get a lot of extra cutscenes and dialogue that flesh out the DLC. Plus, the only way to get a certain item from the final boss is by having Anders in your party.

Warden!Bethany, Aveline, and Isabella (Act 3, Post Campaign)- This run was kind of meh. I truly believe that the DLC was pretty much made for the previous party, siblings varying of course. There were some nice party banter moments and a sweet Aveline x Bethany convo, but that's about it. It felt lacking after playing with the first party. However, the final scene in the Hawke Estate was a lot better and kind of bittersweet I thought. It made me go 'Awww'.

My next playthrough, I think I'll be going with Warden!Carver, Anders, and Varric in Act 3, just before The Last Straw. I think it's the best group story-wise and will also allow me to get the best unique items, since they scale with you.

Modifié par Tragic_Arsenic, 28 juillet 2011 - 02:57 .

[Sealy]

Snarky!Hawke rules this DLC, I took Anders, romanced Fenris and Varric, Fenris and Varric dialogue was so fun and Anders and Fenris still hate eachother, except we learn that they still play cards together and Fenris takes all Anders money. lol. Fenris can get pretty jerkish by the end though, and I didn't get any romance specific dialogue, in face Anders was more sympathetic then him... maybe if I don't take Anders.

[stewie1974]

I don't know if you can start before the deep roads..... you kinda have to be in your mansion to activate the quest don't you?

Correct me if I'm wrong.

[Tragic_Arsenic]

You can do the DLC from Gamlen's House as well.

[cactusberry]

I played it after the end campaign. Didn't fit well, ideally i'd play it right before the ending of the campaign. Mage F!Hawke, mostly sarcastic, some "good" or whatever it's called. I took Carver (templar), Fenris (romance), and Varric. It was amazing.

I did all I could to make the pure irony bleed. I love irony.

Modifié par TheDarkRats, 28 juillet 2011 - 03:47 .

[ShermTank7272]

What happens to Carver/Bethany if you bring them along before "The Deep Roads"? Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't they leave after Legacy? What happens in/after the Roads then?

[Sepewrath]

ShermTank7272 wrote...

What happens to Carver/Bethany if you bring them along before "The Deep Roads"? Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't they leave after Legacy? What happens in/after the Roads then?

I think there is just an extra line of dialogue if you do it post Deep Roads, where they came separately from you. If you do it before the Deep Roads, you probably just don't get that and when you go back to the main story, it will just be business as usual.

[ShermTank7272]

Sepewrath wrote...

ShermTank7272 wrote...

What happens to Carver/Bethany if you bring them along before "The Deep Roads"? Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't they leave after Legacy? What happens in/after the Roads then?

I think there is just an extra line of dialogue if you do it post Deep Roads, where they came separately from you. If you do it before the Deep Roads, you probably just don't get that and when you go back to the main story, it will just be business as usual.

I feel like i should facepalm myself. Duh, the reason they'd leave is to go back to their Warden/Circle/Templar duties. Thanks!

[The Big Nothing]

ACT 2

Carver, Varric, and Anders.

[TheGunslinger]

I got Anders, Bethany and Varric with me.

[Nauks]

Yarp, Varric and a sibling is a given.
Anders has unique shenanigans surely, but I like many of you can't stand him > bring your LI instead imo if you can squeeze in a healer some other way

[Braindeer]

Yeah, bring a romanced Anders for some fun dramatic relationship stuff. And Varric of course, because there's some extra dialogue with him in the party. And of course Bethany/Carver for the family link. Warden Carver is particularly badass.

In another playthrough I took romanced Fenris but you get nothin' from him. Just the usual snarky comments, and some fun banter with Varric about Diamondback.

[Gervaise]

Didn't get any romance specific dialogue for Fenris (I believe this is meant to be a bug), but took him along as a friend, with a mage Hawke, Sebastian and Averline and got the lovely little conversation with him when he compliments my Father and asks what it feels like to hear him. I found that rather touching, particularly as Sebastian, who is meant to be my spiritual husband, says nothing. (This was a post Act 3 save so was a bit limited on choices as Carver was dead, Anders was dead and Isabella never came back).
Tried it with a female rogue Hawke, Fenris as love interest, Bethany and Anders. This time the conversation regarding Malcolm was with Bethany, didn't get anything special from Fenris but strangely enough he didn't seem that at odds with Anders, apart from when the latter starts going weird. The extra dialogue with Anders concerning Corypheus is worth having.

[Braindeer]

Hmm, if the Fenris dialogue (or lack thereof) is a bug that's kind of annoying. I'm not playing it through again with the same character just for a bit of Fen-chat! Would have been nice though.

[hahagirl727]

I did the DLC after finishing the game and I took Varric, Warden Carver, and Anders. Definitely the most story progressive group and Carver wasn't actually annoying. I took Varric for his fun comments, Carver because it made sense he was my brother and it was a very family centered DLC. Also Anders had interesting dialog about mage lore, and some dramatic fun romance shenanigans. Especially with a sarcastic Hawke

[LobselVith8]

hahagirl727 wrote...

I did the DLC after finishing the game and I took Varric, Warden Carver, and Anders. Definitely the most story progressive group and Carver wasn't actually annoying. I took Varric for his fun comments, Carver because it made sense he was my brother and it was a very family centered DLC. Also Anders had interesting dialog about mage lore, and some dramatic fun romance shenanigans. Especially with a sarcastic Hawke

I also took Varric and Warden Carver, but I hate taking Anders - he was written to be a pro-Chantry mouthpiece in this story. His comments in Legacy directly contradict his past characterization (in Awakening and Dragon Age II proper) as a firm believer of the fable of the Golden City. And his comments about the Chantry being 'right' are stupid - if Corypheus is saying the City was already Black (which opens up the possibility that the Magisters weren't there first) then the Chantry was wrong.

This also would've been a good opportunity to allow for an atheist option for Hawke, especially for fans who hated his Andrastian dialogue in the main game. Missed opportunity.

And I hate the railroaded ending of the possessed Warden simply walking away while Hawke does nothing (once again). That was asinine.

[thats1evildude]

The first time I did Legacy, OP, I took Varric, Circle mage Bethany and romanced Merrill in late Act 2, just before Leandra's death.

LobselVith8 wrote...

I also took Varric and Warden Carver, but I hate taking Anders - he was written to be a pro-Chantry mouthpiece in this story.

classic confirmation bias. If anything contradicts your views, better to ignore it entirely rather than consider whether the opposing side has a point.

LobselVith8 wrote...

And his comments about the Chantry being 'right' are stupid - if Corypheus is saying the City was already Black (which opens up the possibility that the Magisters weren't there first) then the Chantry was wrong.

But they WERE right about the magisters travelling to the city and becoming the first darkspawn. Whether the city was black or not does not negate the fact that the magisters chose to go there and magic resulted in the creation of a race of monsters that will inevitably destroy all of Thedas.

Modifié par thats1evildude, 22 janvier 2013 - 06:16 .

[LobselVith8]

thats1evildude wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...

I also took Varric and Warden Carver, but I hate taking Anders - he was written to be a pro-Chantry mouthpiece in this story.

classic confirmation bias. If anything contradicts your views, better to ignore it entirely rather than consider whether the opposing side has a point.

Anders' characterization in Legacy is to say that he doesn't believe in the Chantry version of the fall of the Golden City, simply to have Anders be "wrong" about the Chantry (despite Anders saying in both Awakening and his Act II quest that he believes in the Chantry version of the fall of the Golden City).

Furthermore, Anders already has debates with Merrill because she doesn't believe in the Chantry version of the Fade, or that Spirits and Demons are "Children of the Maker".

This is why I have an issue with how Anders was depicted in Legacy, because he's written to suddenly disagree with the Chantry about their beliefs simply to have him be "wrong" about the Chantry, despite the fact that it really doesn't make any sense given his characterization in both Awakening and Dragon Age II.

thats1evildude wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...

And his comments about the Chantry being 'right' are stupid - if Corypheus is saying the City was already Black (which opens up the possibility that the Magisters weren't there first) then the Chantry was wrong.

But they WERE right about the magisters travelling to the city and becoming the first darkspawn.

We don't know that - we only know Magisters traveled there, and became tainted. We don't know Corpheus and the Magisters who traveled with him were the first darkspawn. The dwarven records about the first darkspawn ever encountered in history make no account for any 'awakened' darkspawn like Corypheus. If the supposedly Golden City was already Black (given what Corypheus says), then it's possible there were darkspawn preceding Corpyheus and his fellow Magisters.

thats1evildude wrote...

Whether the city was black or not does not negate the fact that the magisters chose to go there and magic resulted in the creation of a race of monsters that will inevitably destroy all of Thedas. 

All Legacy proved was that Magisters got tainted. Since the City may have already been Black, and since the dwarves already account for the first darkspawn - who were nothing like Corypheus - it calls into question how many other things the Chantry got wrong.

[tooducks58]

Anyone take Romanced Merril?

[LobselVith8]

drearmouse96 wrote...

Anyone take Romanced Merril?

Yes, my blood mage Hawke took Merrill along (with Varric and Warden Carver). She has dialogue with some of the companions you bring along (which varies), and Carver briefly comments on the relationship between Hawke and Merrill (which may elude to the fact that Carver has a crush on Merrill, and he even hits on Merrill if you bring them along during Act I).