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[Sashimi_taco]

I am female and i play femshep. Any game where i can play as a woman, i will.

[Richard 060]

Male - started with ME2, playing a 'default' Sheploo (first name 'John', Earthborn Sole Survivor, Soldier).

Decided to go with a FemShep for my 'perfect' ME1/2 run (wanted to save Wrex and the Council, and do all the paragon things that a 'new' ME2 Shepard is assumed not to have done) because I wanted my second ME2 run to feel fresh - doing that with an imported custom FemShep rather than a non-imported default vanilla MaleShep would make for a very different experience. Plus, after playing the likes of MGS and KotOR, I quite liked the idea of having Jennifer Hale voicing Shep, since she's a terrific actress (no disrespect to Mark Meer, though - he's aces as well!).

Indeed, that's the funny thing about the two Shepards - Mark Meer's take is very much the 'upstanding hero' (I'm a perpetual Paragon - not sure if this is still true for Renegades), á la Superman. Very driven, honest and virtuous - comes across very much as a classic 'hero' type.

Hale's take, on the other hand, feels more like a 'regular' person on the street, thrust reluctantly into the hero role, and rising to the challenge. Even though the dialogue is the same for both versions, FemShep manages to not just be a gender-swapped clone of Sheploo, for which I'm really impressed by Meer, Hale and BioWare's VO direction for going with unique takes for each.

In fact, taking the 'Superman' analogy further, Meer sounds like the hero as a person 'born great', while Hale plays Shep as one with 'greatness thrust upon them' - or in other words, you could say that MaleShep is a more 'DC' hero, while there's something more 'Marvel' about FemShep. I'm a fan of both approaches, and that's why I'm really glad I took the time to play and enjoy them equally.

[Sesshomaru47]

My main Shepard's are female. I also have the default man-Shepard on the xbox, but just the one, I felt bad for Liara. But being a girl I find it a tad weird playing as a guy...maybe it's an empathy thing who knows.

[Captain Kibosh]

Since the issue of age and gender have come up a lot in this thread, I thought this top ten list of industry facts by the Entertainment Software Association might add some food for thought:  http://www.theesa.com/facts/index.asp

I was surprised and impressed most by the following stats:

• The average game player is 37 years old and has been playing games for 12 years.
• Forty-two percent of all game players are women. In fact, women over the
  age of 18 represent a significantly greater portion of the game-playing
  population (37 percent) than boys age 17 or younger (13 percent).
• In 2011, 29 percent of Americans over the age of 50 play video games, an increase from nine percent in 1999.

To answer the originally question, I'm male and have until recently only played Shep as an (ostensibly asian) male.  I've recently gone back to ME1 to start a female Shep who is also ostensibly asian (and Infiltrator).

I say "ostensibly" because trying to model a decent-looking asian character was difficult to do--some of the basic eye patterns were just bizarre--regardless of what ethnicity a gamer might have been going for.

Modifié par Captain Kibosh, 28 juillet 2011 - 12:38 .

[pfhorlorn]

Richard 060 wrote...

Indeed, that's the funny thing about the two Shepards - Mark Meer's take is very much the 'upstanding hero' (I'm a perpetual Paragon - not sure if this is still true for Renegades), á la Superman. Very driven, honest and virtuous - comes across very much as a classic 'hero' type.

Hale's take, on the other hand, feels more like a 'regular' person on the street, thrust reluctantly into the hero role, and rising to the challenge. Even though the dialogue is the same for both versions, FemShep manages to not just be a gender-swapped clone of Sheploo, for which I'm really impressed by Meer, Hale and BioWare's VO direction for going with unique takes for each.

In fact, taking the 'Superman' analogy further, Meer sounds like the hero as a person 'born great', while Hale plays Shep as one with 'greatness thrust upon them' - or in other words, you could say that MaleShep is a more 'DC' hero, while there's something more 'Marvel' about FemShep. I'm a fan of both approaches, and that's why I'm really glad I took the time to play and enjoy them equally.

I love everything you wrote here. You're my new idol.

Modifié par koopaonfire, 28 juillet 2011 - 12:41 .

[Sashimi_taco]

Captain Kibosh wrote...

[*]Forty-two percent of all game players are women. In fact, women over the
age of 18 represent a significantly greater portion of the game-playing
population (37 percent) than boys age 17 or younger (13 percent). [*]

 But most of those women are people playing flash games and stuff. 

[Kaiser_Wilhelm]

Male. I not only prefer female Shepard's voice actor over male Shepard's but she's also a beautifully designed character. As others have said Meer's voice is too much like a superman hero, while female Shepard sounds much more common, natural, and overall just better.

Modifié par Kaiser_Wilhelm, 28 juillet 2011 - 12:44 .

[Captain Kibosh]

Sashimi_taco wrote...

Captain Kibosh wrote...

[*]Forty-two percent of all game players are women. In fact, women over the
age of 18 represent a significantly greater portion of the game-playing
population (37 percent) than boys age 17 or younger (13 percent). [*]

 But most of those women are people playing flash games and stuff. 

Possible, but can't say for sure until someone has stats to support that conclusion.  Anecdotal evidence is hardly conclusive.

To me it the numbers say that game developers had be ready to tap a demographic that has supposedly been male-dominated for some time now.

I liken it to the situation of the genre of comic books as addressed by the U.S. and Japan.  The U.S. have traditionally skewed way too much in favor of the excrutiatingly specific genre of superhero comics, while Japan with their manga have had a wide range of genre choices that include superheroes, sci-fi, fatnasy, sports, period pieces, everyday school life, etc.  My wife had recently read a manga about a single Japanese mother raising a child with autism!  The U.S. is getting better, slowly, with diversifying the genre choices within comics, but they're still way behind the curve and have so far missed out on the growing market of women who have been reading manga state side.

My point in bringing this up is, I hope the gaming industry will be quicker on the uptake in finding an audience beyond the adolescent ADHD gameplayer who just wants to shoot people in multiplayer.  Heavy Rain is in interesting and bold step in carving out a different audience niche, and I hope US game developers will continue to produce games that acknowledges there is a growing diversity of tastes out there that need a vacuum filled.

[ladyvader]

Sashimi_taco wrote...

Captain Kibosh wrote...

[*]Forty-two percent of all game players are women. In fact, women over the
age of 18 represent a significantly greater portion of the game-playing
population (37 percent) than boys age 17 or younger (13 percent). [*]

 But most of those women are people playing flash games and stuff. 

Does it really matter what game they play?  Seriously?  A game is a game.  I'm sure my mom would have thought by now I would have outgrown my video gaming passion and my passion for heavy metal music.  Like I said before I am in my mid-40's.   It's those in my age group that grew up in video games.  My first console was Pong.

[sbvera13]

Sashimi_taco wrote...

But most of those women are people playing flash games and stuff.

That's like dismissing half of the movie industry because most of those moviegoers are only seeing romantic comedies...

Seriously, why's it matter? Some things cater to your tastes, some things cater to other tastes.  They are still games/tv shows/movies/magazines/novels when you get down to it.

[clerkenwell]

Male and I play FemShep primarily. I do have a Sheploo import, but it's my worst-case-scenario import that I engineered to get as many important squadmates killed as possible without making any overtly idiotic decisions (Jack, Thane, and Jacob are still alive, Zaeed left to die in the fire post-SM). So take from that what you will.

The reason I play femshep... I can't really say. When I got ME1 the idea of a playing a female space marine sounded a lot more interesting than playing (yet another) male space marine, so I went FemShep on a whim. By the time the game was over, there was no going back. There really is only the one Shepard in my mind. I've played others but they're just imposters.

[Sashimi_taco]

Captain Kibosh wrote...

Possible, but can't say for sure until someone has stats to support that conclusion.  Anecdotal evidence is hardly conclusive.

I was going to argue with you and link to the article i read about it a few years ago, but i can't find it. So you are probably right and i made that up in my head or something.

[AngusJimiKeith]

Male, but I know plenty of female gamers.
3 malesheps, 5 femsheps, (6 playthroughs more than i had originally planned on )

Why do I play femshep?
A) Hale's va work is amazing. It fits with every femshep i can make.
I can't make a decent maleshep in the character creator, so i'm stuck with sheploo. femshep, however, I can do a good job with.
C) Strong female characters are rare in games but awesome when they're there. That's the type of personality I get along best with in reality, so it works really well in game too.

There's always been this prejudice against female gamers which makes no [insert swear of choice] sense at all, as well as one against guys who play girls. Apparently we're "gay" or "want to be woman" or some garbage (not homophobic or sexist, just making a point). Well, in that case, I'm looking at a hot chick for 6 hours while you stare at some guy (STILL not sexist). The arguments literally make zero sense from ANY perspective. I'm playing what I find to be the most fun/engaging, and while either or works for me in ME, I still prefer femshep.

/rant. I hope i still makes sense after the flameshields I inserted into it........

[SerWhat?]

I am a 52 year old female and have played video games since they first started. At one point I felt like I was too old and stopped but then realized there was nothing wrong with an older person playing them. I played males in all my games for a long while because that was all that was available. When they started having females, I felt uncomfortable with their looks and way of dressing so didn't play as them. Then I played DAO and became a fan of Bioware for life. I played male once in DA
O, once in DA2, once in ME1 and once in ME2. I have played each game several times as a female character.

[Raiil]

Female, and I play femshep, although one of these days I'll do a manShep playthrough.

I tend to play female characters, although occasionally I do wander off the trail; my canon Lone Wanderer is a dude and I had a male troll for a while when I played WoW.

ETA: for the record, I'm 29 and I've been gaming since I was six. I gravitated mostly towards female characters in games so long as they didn't ferociously suck, except in Tekken for some reason. 

Modifié par Valentia X, 28 juillet 2011 - 04:23 .

[Destroy Raiden_]

I play her because I like her voice better in ME - 2 and I get way more options with her hair really that's it. She's a girl and that's cool but really I play her for options and it feels like more of an accomplishment when I do something big sense it's a girl doing it where as playing as Mshep I expect him to pull through fshep has to work harder at it and I like it that way.

[Therefore_I_Am]

I'm male and play as default sheploo because quite frankly I suck at customizing.

Being a former MMO player, I long ago became desensitized by the fact that a moderate chunk of the percentage of gamers are women. In the early days of MMOGs, female toons that were played by women in real life were treated like queens when they joined guilds and were givin so much loot, all of this because people never really encountered a girl in game so they wanted to impress them somehow.

Right now I'm in a relationship with someone that doesn't have much love for gaming. Sure she has played on occasion left 4 dead and black ops but she doesn't see it as a hobby exactly. It's like we come home from a scorching hot summer's day at the gym (really, staying inside is the only way to beat the heat; not beach weather at all) and I decide to flip on the Xbox for short bit but she just rolls her eyes. Once she tried to get into it while watching me play and she just fell asleep. yes I give her the attention she needs, but it's more the fact that she's one of those who believe games are for geeks and the immature.

I one day debated with her saying that games in itself are an art, and they should be appreciated as an art, plus some of the games have a novel-like quality to them makes you feel like you are reading a good book.
She responded by saying that the industry is simply meant for children no matter how you look at it. It's one of those things that we don't share common interests on, so she regularly puts me down for playing them. For years I remained a closet gamer up until recently when she wanted to move in.

In my previous years of dating, oh what would I GIVE to have met a girl like one of you here who actually LIKES rpgs and games such as mass effect. I've met women who play games regularly but they are few and far between and are already married with children (at a young age!).

I apologize if I rambled there. ANYWAY...... *walks off awkwardly*

Modifié par Therefore_I_Am, 28 juillet 2011 - 06:01 .

[Avilia]

As its sort of been mentioned a few times. I don't think you're ever too old to game.

To me gaming is better than watching television as a past time. TV is a relatively passive experience that requires nothing but that you sit and watch, whereas gaming is active and engages the mind as well as the reflexes.

Plus the fact that I game has made me seem extremely cool in the eyes of my 14 year old nephew ;-)

Oops sorry OT again OP something on topic to make up for it. I didn't really worry about playing male or female characters until I started MMO's and RPG's.

I happily played Mr Anon Space Marine for many years (many, many years) without a worry and in fact still dip into Halo on occasion. When I have any sense of identification with my character then I prefer female. Unless the animations annoy me then its male ;-) (I'm looking at you AoC).

[Raiil]

Therefore_I_Am wrote...

I'm male and play as default sheploo because quite frankly I suck at customizing.

Being a former MMO player, I long ago became desensitized by the fact that a moderate chunk of the percentage of gamers are women. In the early days of MMOGs, female toons that were played by women in real life were treated like queens when they joined guilds and were givin so much loot, all of this because people never really encountered a girl in game so they wanted to impress them somehow.

Right now I'm in a relationship with someone that doesn't have much love for gaming. Sure she has played on occasion left 4 dead and black ops but she doesn't see it as a hobby exactly. It's like we come home from a scorching hot summer's day at the gym (really, staying inside is the only way to beat the heat; not beach weather at all) and I decide to flip on the Xbox for short bit but she just rolls her eyes. Once she tried to get into it while watching me play and she just fell asleep. yes I give her the attention she needs, but it's more the fact that she's one of those who believe games are for geeks and the immature.

I one day debated with her saying that games in itself are an art, and they should be appreciated as an art, plus some of the games have a novel-like quality to them makes you feel like you are reading a good book.
She responded by saying that the industry is simply meant for children no matter how you look at it. It's one of those things that we don't share common interests on, so she regularly puts me down for playing them. For years I remained a closet gamer up until recently when she wanted to move in.

In my previous years of dating, oh what would I GIVE to have met a girl like one of you here who actually LIKES rpgs and games such as mass effect. I've met women who play games regularly but they are few and far between and are already married with children (at a young age!).

I apologize if I rambled there. ANYWAY...... *walks off awkwardly*

If it's any consolation, dude, I'm a female gamer who would appreciate having a bf who actually was a real gamer, and not some jerkwad who cries cheetos and angst if he gets beaten by a girl or gets huffy if you don't want to play the same games as them. :innocent:

[silentassassin264]

Sashimi_taco wrote...

I am female and i play femshep. Any game where i can play as a woman, i will.

[LilyasAvalon]

Why do people always assume female gamers are in short supply? ._.

I'm female, I play as a Female Shepard roughly 90% of the time, partially because the LI's for male Shepard all bore me (Except Tali).

[Seboist]

I'm male who has two out of three of his Shepards being female. They're my serious playthroughs(one being a full canon and the other a pseudo one) and my default Sheploo is mainly just my Talimancer playthrough.

[LilyasAvalon]

Richard 060 wrote...

Male - started with ME2, playing a 'default' Sheploo (first name 'John', Earthborn Sole Survivor, Soldier).

Decided to go with a FemShep for my 'perfect' ME1/2 run (wanted to save Wrex and the Council, and do all the paragon things that a 'new' ME2 Shepard is assumed not to have done) because I wanted my second ME2 run to feel fresh - doing that with an imported custom FemShep rather than a non-imported default vanilla MaleShep would make for a very different experience. Plus, after playing the likes of MGS and KotOR, I quite liked the idea of having Jennifer Hale voicing Shep, since she's a terrific actress (no disrespect to Mark Meer, though - he's aces as well!).

Indeed, that's the funny thing about the two Shepards - Mark Meer's take is very much the 'upstanding hero' (I'm a perpetual Paragon - not sure if this is still true for Renegades), á la Superman. Very driven, honest and virtuous - comes across very much as a classic 'hero' type.

Hale's take, on the other hand, feels more like a 'regular' person on the street, thrust reluctantly into the hero role, and rising to the challenge. Even though the dialogue is the same for both versions, FemShep manages to not just be a gender-swapped clone of Sheploo, for which I'm really impressed by Meer, Hale and BioWare's VO direction for going with unique takes for each.

In fact, taking the 'Superman' analogy further, Meer sounds like the hero as a person 'born great', while Hale plays Shep as one with 'greatness thrust upon them' - or in other words, you could say that MaleShep is a more 'DC' hero, while there's something more 'Marvel' about FemShep. I'm a fan of both approaches, and that's why I'm really glad I took the time to play and enjoy them equally.

Dear Maker, you've just become my most favourite person in the world. :happy: *Clings*