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I bought a laptop -- not really for gaming, but for heavier software -- and installed DA2 as it was the only kind of new game I have on a disc. The laptop says it has an Intel 3000 HD on the screen settings for my computer, but Dragon Age 2 runs 50 FPS (720p, DX11, HIGH, 2xAA, 4xAntriscopic). The DA2 configuration also gives me the specs of the intel card on system info.

Is this a confirmation that my computer really have a HD 6770M in it, as said in the specs or is that Intel card that good?

[Gorath Alpha]

Intel hasn't made an actual video card for end-user application since the late 1990s, and the one time they tried then, they failed. They only thing they offer is one kind or another of generally very bad onboard video chips that cannot run any high intensity 3D games at all well.

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So the fact that it runs DA2 on 50 FPS confirms that my laptop uses it rather than the intel card that is shown on the advanced screen settings.

In the device manager, I see both cards as active though.

EDIT: If anyone knows how I can get my computer to always use the HD6770, I would be thankful. Dx11/high/720p DA2 runs at 50 while Minecraft have trouble keeping up 10 FPS.
EDIT2: It's a HP fail that OpenGL is not considered a need for the performance card. They better allow the old system which allowed the user to select what card to be used.

Modifié par Gisle Aune, 29 juillet 2011 - 11:50 .

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The intel 3000 HD is Intel's foray into integrating graphics accelleration into their CPUs and eliminating the need for a graphics card. Intel's website claims you should see performance comprable to entry level cards.

"Intel® HD Graphics 3000 delivers immersive and casual mainstream gaming capabilities with entry-level discrete graphics card performance without an additional graphics card or chip."

I don't know why you're seeing poor performance in minecraft, I'd think that even if it were running with the intel graphics you should be fine performance wise. Admittedly though, I've never played minecraft, so I don't know if there's anything you can tweak there.

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Both AMD and nVIDIA actually made it easier for Intel to have a Sandy Bridge IGP that overtakes the Lowest of Low End business graphics solutions.  AMD has hardly moved the target since the HD 3450 card three years ago, and nVIDIA actually WENT BACKWARD that year to produce the Geforce 210, which is not as good as the last of the nVIDIA chipset video chips (9300) was.  The 310 was no better, and the GT 520 is more of the same. 

The HD 5450 and the G 310 were a very low performance target for Intel to aim at.  In achieving parity with those, they have not met the minimum requirements for modern 3D games at all. 

Dragon Age: Origins is now two years old, and was five years in development; it really didn't advance the state of the art for graphics or AI by any sizable margin over Obsidian's NWN2, or Bethesda's Fallout 3.  At low resolutions and low graphics quality settings, several recent IGPs can sort of "play" the DAO game, including the very mundane Radeon HD 4200, which is more closely related to a four year old HD 2400 / 2600 than to any of the two year old HD 4n00 cards.  Even the Intel Chipset type chip embedded within the packaging with the i3 / i5 series of CPUs can "Stroll" through DAO (I won't use the word "run", because they are too darn slow to "run"). 

I certainly wouldn't enjoy a gaming experience restricted to what anything from Intel, or included as part of any Chipset might offer.  However, there is an alternative.  AMD has pursued two separate branches of the graphics development tree since their HD 2n00 generation four years ago.  "Fusion" is a far superior version of combined CPU plus GPU that has been very successful at the Netbook, NetTop level, and promises to do the same for the lower range laptops now that "Llano" is in production.  The onboard graphics is greatly superior to the HD 5450 and the Sandy Bridge in both Llano lines, and a true competitor to Conroe is due out this fall, with its own equivalent to an HD 5570 as its onboard video.

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It certainly sounds like you aren't using the Intel HD Graphics 3000 to play DAII, that chip would be too weak.  The laptop is probably set up to dynamically switch between using the Radeon HD 6770m (which is actually decent) and the low-quality Intel chip.  I don't know how you could take direct control of that and always use the Radeon HD 6770m, you may have to contact your laptop manufacturer to find out.

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Both AMD and nVIDIA actually made it easier for Intel to have a Sandy Bridge IGP that overtakes the Lowest of Low End business graphics solutions.  AMD has hardly moved the target since the HD 3450 card three years ago, and nVIDIA actually WENT BACKWARD that year to produce the Geforce 210, which is not as good as the last of the nVIDIA chipset video chips (9300) was.  The 310 was no better, and the GT 520 is more of the same. 

The HD 5450 and the G 310 were a very low performance target for Intel to aim at.  In achieving parity with those, they have not met the minimum requirements for modern 3D games at all.

To be fair, AMD has been moving forward ever so slowly on the low-end.  The Radeon HD 4350 and 4570 cards had twice the shader processors as the 3450, it's the 5450 that simply had the same number as the 4350/4570.  The 6450 has twice as many shaders as the 4350/4570/5450, and it is better than the Intel HD Graphics 3000.

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Actually speaking, I seldom look closely at low end specifications until one of the well-respected testing / comparison sites finally covers them in an article, and I since I've seen no such article, I haven't looked at the Low End HD 6n00 cards at all yet. My recollection had been that the end results in bench testing hadn't moved far at all between the HD 3450 and the HD 4350, and right now, it's the middle of the night here, and something waked me up. Whatever it was, I couldn't fall back to sleep.

I may look up the specs (again) on the three older ones when I finally feel rested . .

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Card capabilities aside, this sounds like a minecraft issue to me. I don't think there's a hardware issue at all, regardless of which adapter is being used. Gisle, if you haven't yet, I'd head on over to the minecraft website and look for support there on this one.