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[Eleinehmm]

Just reinstalled ME2 and getting very slow performance starting with the main menu screen (1-2 min to just open up the main menu) I use the same computer that I did before, so it can’t be hardware issues.  Anyone with the same problem ?

[mcsupersport]

If you have Nvidea graphics and are currently using a newer driver, past the 256/258 mark your issue may be a video driver incompatible with ME2. I am running the 260ish beta because it works and doesn't cause this issue on my machine, but it was hit and miss for awhile to get one to work with ME and other games as well.

[Eleinehmm]

Thanks I will check that

[Fredvdp]

Actually it can still be a hardware issue. Hardware deteriorates after a while. I used to be able to run Mass Effect fine at high resolutions but recently had to upgrade because it became almost unplayable.

Edit: Forget I said anything.

Modifié par Fredvdp, 29 juillet 2011 - 08:42 .

[RampantAndroid]

Fredvdp wrote...

Actually it can still be a hardware issue. Hardware deteriorates after a while. I used to be able to run Mass Effect fine at high resolutions but recently had to upgrade because it became almost unplayable.

Hardware - solid state components such as a CPU or GPU do not slow down over time. If you were talking about an SSD using MLC, sure you see a miniscule drop over time. But a CPU or GPU are just built of transistors that really don't change over time. They may fail over time, but a failure of even a single transistor in a processor will not manifest as a slowdown.

If the hardware remained the same and over time the system slowed down, either one of the moving parts (read, the hard drive) either has just past it's peak...or the software has caused slowdowns, for example keeping too much running at once in Windows.

[Gorath Alpha]

Fredvdp wrote...

Actually it can still be a hardware issue. Hardware deteriorates after a while. I used to be able to run Mass Effect fine at high resolutions but recently had to upgrade because it became almost unplayable.

Although you are correct about the specific, that capacitors in particular gradually lose capacity, you applied it without total clarity (and left yourself open to a newly arrived sniper just looking to get as close to Trolling as possible to cause trouble).  Electronic deterioration manifests as instability, erratic behavior, unusual symptoms of various kinds.  It is real, it does happen, it's just not particularly applicable to this immediate discussion. 

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 29 juillet 2011 - 04:38 .

[RampantAndroid]

Gorath Alpha wrote...

Fredvdp wrote...

Actually it can still be a hardware issue. Hardware deteriorates after a while. I used to be able to run Mass Effect fine at high resolutions but recently had to upgrade because it became almost unplayable.

Although you are correct about the specific, that capacitors in particular gradually lose capacity, you applied it without total clarity (and left yourself open to a newly arrived sniper just looking to get as close to Trolling as possible to cause trouble).  Electronic deterioration manifests as instability, erratic behavior, unusual symptoms of various kinds.  It is real, it does happen, it's just not particularly applicable to this immediate discussion. 

Says the person who instead of offering help to people just yells "READ MY THREADS" - no, I'm sorry. He tried to advise someone to go buy a new hardware component, meaning: spend money....when they may not need to. People who spread untruths, be it intentional, or as I suspect in this case, simply being ill informed, need to be corrected when they're in a tech support forum giving advice. You end your post by in fact backing up exactly what my post says: his advice is useless here.

So no, I'm not trolling. I'm not off topic. And unlike you, I'm not insulting or trying to pick a fight.

Modifié par RampantAndroid, 29 juillet 2011 - 05:22 .

[Fredvdp]

RampantAndroid wrote...

Gorath Alpha wrote...

Fredvdp wrote...

Actually it can still be a hardware issue. Hardware deteriorates after a while. I used to be able to run Mass Effect fine at high resolutions but recently had to upgrade because it became almost unplayable.

Although you are correct about the specific, that capacitors in particular gradually lose capacity, you applied it without total clarity (and left yourself open to a newly arrived sniper just looking to get as close to Trolling as possible to cause trouble).  Electronic deterioration manifests as instability, erratic behavior, unusual symptoms of various kinds.  It is real, it does happen, it's just not particularly applicable to this immediate discussion. 

Says the person who instead of offering help to people just yells "READ MY THREADS" - no, I'm sorry. He tried to advise someone to go buy a new hardware component, meaning: spend money....when they may not need to.

I never advised someone to buy new hardware. I pointed towards a very specific case of framerate loss (namely mine) and I mistakenly assumed it was hardware deterioration and is appliccable to other PCs. I never said this was likely the OP's problem.

I don't know the specifics of hardware failure but my last PC slowed down significantly. I always thought it was caused by my CPU's failure to stay below 60°C, but if you think that's not the case then I guess I'll have to find a new cause for my loss in framerate.

Modifié par Fredvdp, 29 juillet 2011 - 09:09 .

[RampantAndroid]

Fredvdp wrote...

RampantAndroid wrote...

Gorath Alpha wrote...

Fredvdp wrote...

Actually it can still be a hardware issue. Hardware deteriorates after a while. I used to be able to run Mass Effect fine at high resolutions but recently had to upgrade because it became almost unplayable.

Although you are correct about the specific, that capacitors in particular gradually lose capacity, you applied it without total clarity (and left yourself open to a newly arrived sniper just looking to get as close to Trolling as possible to cause trouble).  Electronic deterioration manifests as instability, erratic behavior, unusual symptoms of various kinds.  It is real, it does happen, it's just not particularly applicable to this immediate discussion. 

Says the person who instead of offering help to people just yells "READ MY THREADS" - no, I'm sorry. He tried to advise someone to go buy a new hardware component, meaning: spend money....when they may not need to.

I never advised someone to buy new hardware. I pointed towards a very specific case of framerate loss (namely mine) and I mistakenly assumed it was hardware deterioration and is appliccable to other PCs. I never said this was likely the OP's problem.

I don't know the specifics of hardware failure but my last PC slowed down significantly. I always thought it was caused by my CPU's failure to stay below 60°C, but if you think that's not the case then I guess I'll have to find a new cause for my loss in framerate.

I think a general rule is that if you're seeing temp issues, they'll be VERY apparant - not as a slowdown though. A CPU heat issue will usually mean the system plainly shuts off. A GPU heat issue will usually lead to corruption, I think. Not sure what CPU you have, but I know that my CPU - the Core i7 D0 stepping - is around a thermal junction max of 99C (TJ Max for short) - as the i7 approaches TJ Max, the CPU sends out a message "PROCHOT" which the motherboard handles by throttling the CPU; if the CPU still stays hot, it'll actually shut the system down to protect the CPU from damage. I think people tested the old Core2 CPUs and discovered removing the heatsink didn't even damage the CPU. If you want to look at temps, use RealTemp.

What I meant by you advised (wrong wording, perhaps) is you gave advice/information that could lead to an incorrect decision on his part ot buy a new card.

Modifié par RampantAndroid, 29 juillet 2011 - 10:09 .

[Bogsnot1]

Back on topic;

Have you recently bought and installed a lot of DLC? Having a lot of DLC will mean the main menu appears, but wont be accessible until the game loads up the DLC details, and having a lot of save games under the current active profile can also slow things down somewhat.
If this isnt the case, and its not GPU driver as McSuper suggested, post your specs and we'll see fi we can spot anything there that could be causing it.

[Baramon]

I wondered why my main menu takes foreber to load now (almost maxed out DLC and have filled up my saved games list at 70, I think?) and it just sits there like a crippled burrick, snuffling at me in tired disgust when the opening menu pops up...er, doesn't pop up...it's more like a lethargic wallaby trying to wake up from its nap in the sun.

I usually just "press any key" -- well, it's a mouse button, technically a button of sorts -- and stare off into space -- well, it's a wall -- and twiddle me thumbs. Serious buzz-kill bummer. Maybe I can live with it, but this game sure is buggy.

[Bogsnot1]

You can speed up the access time getting the DLC to load by doing an epic amount of copy/paste from the DLC ini files into the coalseced.ini, and that would also allow you to mod DLC items as well.
I tend to avoid that though, as if you screw up one aspect of the copy paste, it will not allow thegame to launch correctly, and you will then spend ages either undoing the damage, or redoing the copy/paste.

[Baramon]

I don't think I'll try it. I opened up coalesced.ini in notepad, and while the first couple or three times it seemed okay, after that, no matter what I did, the game wouldn't launch. Everything had become scrambled in the coalesced.ini file and nothing I did could fix it. Luckily, I had saved a backup copy beforehand. But, what a mess.

It's virtually instantaneous, from the time I click Launch the game until it gets to the main game menu, since I started using RoadCrewWorker's "Mod Manager" a little while back.  Now I don't know how I got along without it.  Trust me, I don't need to see 7,452 video messages reminding me Bioware made this thing. I know that by now.

Modifié par Baramon, 03 août 2011 - 04:57 .