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Sideing with the Grey Wardens or not?


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likeorasgod

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Okay I did one playthrough where I didn't side with the Grey Wardens.  I was just wondering what happens if you side with them on the brig?  I'm about to get to that part and realy don't want to deal with doing several saves to find out.

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Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien

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As far as the bridge is concerned, it depends on who you sided with at the bottom. There are four different scenarios to this...

Side with Larius both times
Side with Larius then switch to Janeka and the Wardens on the bridge
Side with Janeka then switch to Larius and the Wardens on the bridge
Side with Janeka both times

Top one, you fight Janeka and the Wardens at top of bridge
2nd one, Janeka blasts Larius dead on the Bridge
3rd one, Larius beats Janeka to a pulp on the bridge
4th one, not done this one yet, but am going to bet that you fight Larius and the other Wardens (that had swapped sides to Larius earlier) on the bridge

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likeorasgod

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What about the end result the same either way? I did Lariurs again just cause I can't side with some one insane, so figure I'll do it on my rouge playthrough. Mainly just wanted to know other than dialoge changes the end part of it all.

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yes, it all depend if you want a half ghoul free or a powerful mage, other than that is up to you. I side with warden, am not letting that thing(Larius) walk free.

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Rifneno

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I very strongly doubt it matters in the slightest as far as future consequences of the decisions. Either way Corypheus is walking out with a brand new Edgar suit and Hawke is too dumb to put two and two together.

The real question is... who among us was naive enough to believe they'd give us decisions and then not railroad us into the same end? I'll admit, I was. :(

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The half-ghoul was a lot saner (Probibly do to the "Last gift" of being undetectable towards darkspawn) I sided with Larius and thus the Wardens at large.
IMHO
Architect = good, Corypheus = bad

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Rifneno

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DRTJR wrote...

The half-ghoul was a lot saner (Probibly do to the "Last gift" of being undetectable towards darkspawn) I sided with Larius and thus the Wardens at large.
IMHO
Architect = good, Corypheus = bad


I think Architect = bad, Corypheus = unknown.  We know for a fact that the Architect wants the darkspawn to prosper.  He says he wishes co-existence, but is that really possible long term?  The darkspawn taint all around them by their mere existence, not to mention their horrific method of reproduction.  Corypheus however has not yet shown his alligence.  He's only just woken up from a two thousand year nap and doesn't know what the hell's going on.  Also he's passed on to another body which is human, albeit slightly tainted.  It's entirely possible that once he understands what happened he'll want to fix the spreading damnation.  I'm not saying he's a nice guy, but he doesn't need to be a nice guy, he just needs to side with humanity.  Think Illusive Man (if you've played ME2).  There's any number of reasons he may want to do it, and he'll be a powerful tool in the fight against the taint if he decides to do so.  Both for his immense power and for his inside knowledge of things.

In short, though he was once very much human the Architect thinks of himself as a darkspawn.  He will always choose them over humans, dwarves, elves, and kossith (did I forget any?).  Corypheus does not think of himself as a darkspawn and there's a good chance he will actively work against them.

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DRTJR

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The Architect Wishes peace because blights and War kill Millions of Darkspawn, Peace could be reached between Darkspawn and the other races of thedas. Coryphous is one of the tevinter magisters who invaded the Golden city and corrupted it, while the architect might also be one he has made the deep roads safer by using his joining like ritual by freeing more darkspawn of the old god's call

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likeorasgod wrote...
I did Lariurs again just cause I can't side with some one insane,


Right...there was an option to side with someone who wasn't a few cards short of a full deck?

Rifneno wrote...
Either way Corypheus is walking out with a brand new Edgar suit and Hawke is too dumb to put two and two together.


This.  Bioware we're not stupid (most of us, most of the time), you can afford to be subtle every now and again.

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I couldn't figure it out. I even said aloud, "Why is he talking like Corypheus" and bought his explination for being normal now. But it's a good reason to choose Larius, minimize Corypheus' power.

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Rifneno wrote...
I think Architect = bad, Corypheus = unknown.  We know for a fact that the Architect wants the darkspawn to prosper.  He says he wishes co-existence, but is that really possible long term?  The darkspawn taint all around them by their mere existence, not to mention their horrific method of reproduction.


Apparently, the goal of the Architect in one of the DA:O books is exactly that: to convert everyone into Grey Wardens (thereby making them sterile) or ghouls. Of course, this plan is stupid since it means all darkspawn die (no women to rape and mutate) but apparently it was the plan.

Still, the darkspawn are antithetical to life. Worse yet, what makes them dangerous is the archdemon, a being that organizes them. If Corypheus or the Architect can do the same... then they're as dangerous. 

I'm not saying he's a nice guy, but he doesn't need to be a nice guy, he just needs to side with humanity.  Think Illusive Man (if you've played ME2).  There's any number of reasons he may want to do it, and he'll be a powerful tool in the fight against the taint if he decides to do so.  Both for his immense power and for his inside knowledge of things.


Why would he want to stop the spread of a race whose minds he can control at will?

Corypheus does not think of himself as a darkspawn and there's a good chance he will actively work against them.


Why is there a good chance he'll want to work against the darkspawn? He's got an army he can control at will, and he's entering a world where mages are feared as one of the greates mages of the former imperium. 

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Architect and Coryphous are both bad news, anything related to the blight is bad news. When the darkspawn are all dead, the Wardens then need to be disbanded, watched, and made sure that all traces of blight are gone. That's just horrid stuff.

Anyway, sided with Larius who had the right idea (didn't make Warden Commander for being stupid).

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it doesnt matter who you side with, the end is basically the same

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So much for the choices...I suppose its either Larius or Janeka who get possessed in the end. One thing that certain a negative consequences is Coryphous on the loose, the plot of this DLC are quite similar to many quest in core game, there is only one conclusion regardless of decisions you'd choose.

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I think a possessed ghoul is 'safer' than a posssessed mage. Either way, I guess it doesn't really matter. Corypheus probably can hop to another body if it serves his purpose better,

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In Exile wrote...
Apparently, the goal of the Architect in one of the DA:O books is exactly that: to convert everyone into Grey Wardens (thereby making them sterile) or ghouls. Of course, this plan is stupid since it means all darkspawn die (no women to rape and mutate) but apparently it was the plan.

Still, the darkspawn are antithetical to life. Worse yet, what makes them dangerous is the archdemon, a being that organizes them. If Corypheus or the Architect can do the same... then they're as dangerous. 


I am 100 percent sure that my warden was NOT sterile.