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[Gunderic]

Yrkoon wrote...

Gunderic wrote...

That's why you use Gamespot user scores. Surprisingly far less likely to get troll ratings/reviews.

Because there's less people on gamespot?

Because that's the only reason why, and  that's hardly surprizing.    There's still tons and tons of angry ranting from users on gamespot.

You're actually very like to get an even/higher number of people rating games on Gamespot than on metacritic, possibly because you don't have to write a review to do so.

The scores tend to be much more balanced, regardless. I would assume a lot of the reviews get moderated faster because the rules there probably tend to be stricter for trolling. That, and Gamespot seems to be a more low-profile target for trolling, since trolling on metacritic is more likely to get you attention.

Modifié par Gunderic, 01 août 2011 - 03:04 .

[nitefyre410]

Tirfan wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...


Hey I my far share of scares and  made some bad choices but I have learned from those burns.   

FF 9 , DMC 2, Dissidia  Final Fantasy( a game I really wanted to like but ARRGGGH couldn't not) ,  Dragon Quest VIII, Xenosaga 2,  COD Black OPS. 

Though Bioware better give my a good reason why Lieana is suddenly gone all Zealot or as Thor would say... We will have words.  

^ Hey, wtf, FF IX is magnificent game. It is FFVIII that sucks so much that I can barely believe it (the only game worse than DA2).

I however, haven't even touched Xenosaga.. I played Xenogears and while it was technically horrible game... it had certain charm to it that made it amazing.

Thought I feel the Opposite I think what I will do is go back  and play it again(ill dl from the PSN store) and play again, because there alot of things I like about it  but mostly the skill system annoyed me to no end it felt like my characters were not progress at all and Zidane.  Though that game is not with out its merits  Freya, Steiner, and Beatrix, Vivi  were awesome.   I just did not fit my taste and went back on some tenants that have  bogoed down Jrpgs for years.  

Xenosaga 1 and Xenosage 3  were good - matter of  fact Xenosage 3  has the same feel as Xenogears did about it and the best  Character death  scene I have seen in while

[Cutlass Jack]

nitefyre410 wrote...

Xenosaga 1 and Xenosage 3  were good - matter of  fact Xenosage 3  has the same feel as Xenogears did about it and the best  Character death  scene I have seen in while

True. Though Xenosaga 1 got a little cutscene heavy. Xenosaga 2 was horrid though, gameplay wise. Was really hard forcing myself through it to the Third game, which was the best. But you kind of need to do it to follow the story.

Not that it has anything to do with this topic.

[nitefyre410]

Cutlass Jack wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

Xenosaga 1 and Xenosage 3  were good - matter of  fact Xenosage 3  has the same feel as Xenogears did about it and the best  Character death  scene I have seen in while

True. Though Xenosaga 1 got a little cutscene heavy. Xenosaga 2 was horrid though, gameplay wise. Was really hard forcing myself through it to the Third game, which was the best. But you kind of need to do it to follow the story.

Not that it has anything to do with this topic.

true it tis not ...back on topic

[Darth Obvious]

 Legacy is possibly the most pitiful DLC I have ever played.

It doesn't even work. I get to the end, the silly final boss just spins around, and there is no way to actually end the quest. I've attacked the pillars 4 times, fought each wave of enemies that spawn, and now it just gets stuck in this infinite loop where the guy just keeps spinning, I keep running around in circles, and nothing happens.

DA2 is an embarassment of a game (with the horrid plot and most of the character appearance/armor options previously available in Bioware games now stripped away), and this DLC puts a final exclamation point on this butchered franchise. Disgraceful.

Bioware is nothing but a shadow of its former self. I will never buy anything else from them as long as I live. DA2 and ME2 rank 2nd and 3rd on my list of most disappointing games of all-time. Absolutely pathetic.

[Annarl]

I thought Legacy was enjoyable. There are a few bugs. However, when compared to Fallout New Vegas: Old World Blues the price seems a little steep. But overall I thought it was a good DLC. I am glad I purchased it.

Modifié par omearaee, 01 août 2011 - 05:23 .

[Night Prowler76]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

unfortunately nitefyre410, most people are lemmings.

Yes, and you would be one of those lemmings.

[nitefyre410]

Night Prowler76 wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

unfortunately nitefyre410, most people are lemmings.

Yes, and you would be one of those lemmings.

 

Yes ... well the Pide Piper does play a great cover of "Shake your groove thing"... you can't help  dance alittle.

[PsychaDurmont]

Playing on a mac here and had none of the bugs listed in the review or in the above posts.  I found the DLC to be a typical DLC .. it was enjoyable, gave some plot hints and some possible answers.  I felt a bit boxed in as you basically have a single point you are aiming for but it is a DLC and so it was expected. 

My opinion of this DLC, it was enjoyable.  I like the column room the most (I like solving puzzles - just wish there had been more).  I wish there had been some romantic recognition between my LI's.  Even an endearing word or two, as it was the only real recognition was from my Brother towards my LI after a rather nasty banter they had.  The end boss mob was fairly easy to deal with also IMO.

I think the GS reviewer was more negaive than I expected in his comments.  I personally believe it was better than a 5.5.  And it took me with a bit longer than 2 hrs. I suppose if I'd just barreled through to the end without doing anything else yah I can see where his rating would have come from. 

But a game, any game should be more than rushing to reach max lvl or end game content.  A game consitst of sidequests, ambience, character banter and history... these things are what draw people in/involve them.   I like the DA series as a whole for these reasons.  This DLC holds its own against many of the DLC's of Origins and tops a few of them.

[TEWR]

Night Prowler76 wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

unfortunately nitefyre410, most people are lemmings.

Yes, and you would be one of those lemmings.

how so? Because I thought Legacy was great? I made that call long before talking about anything Legacy related after it was released on the forums.

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

Pfft that article is stupid DA2 was never a good game

[JaegerBane]

PsychaDurmont wrote...
But a game, any game should be more than rushing to reach max lvl or end game content.  A game consitst of sidequests, ambience, character banter and history... these things are what draw people in/involve them.   I like the DA series as a whole for these reasons.  This DLC holds its own against many of the DLC's of Origins and tops a few of them.

I haven't finished playing it - I'm only at the second 'level' of the prison - but I have to admit I didn't get why GS's response to the DLC was so negative. I agree with you on the above - blasting through to get the Staff of Almighty Wtfpwnage isn't really why I play games, so the current approach I'm seeing from the DLC is much closer to my preferences. Aside from The Key staff... it's positively the most ugly mage weapon I've ever seen, like it was designed to be disliked.

I'm definitely enjoying it a lot more than the base game. This is really the only reason I have for negativity in this DLC, really - the fact that it's just a DLC. I'd rather delve into the origins of Darkspawn and Wardens rather than screw around doing fed-ex quests for various idiots in the same city for 10 hours, but unfortunately, as enjoyable as all this lore is, it's only a small fraction of the game. The majority of the game is still going to be a boring slog. The only way this will be resolved is we get more DLC, of about this length, and this direction.

I haven't finished the DLC yet, so it could all turn to crap.... but all of this is very convincing that Bioware have managed to get a grip on what they're doing with DA.

I just really hope they stick with this.

Modifié par JaegerBane, 01 août 2011 - 06:59 .

[Dragoonlordz]

From what I have read and heard and such I have to for once say I applaud Bioware for what they trying to do with it, whole trying to apply tactics to fights not solely relying on waves, learning from DA2 about not enough unique locations and showing much more of an effect regarding choices even if doesn't get shown outside the DLC because it is a DLC not an expansion (imho) I wouldn't expected knock on effect in main game.

I'm one of last people expect to hear that from given past few months but I have to give it to Bioware it seems to me that they are atleast trying now to put things right though until see DA3 I have no major hopes that they can turn DA franchise into something I want to re-invest in, but it's good to know they seem to be finally listening not going off on random trial and error seeing how much get away with in as little time as possible.

Fingers crossed they take Legacy and vastly expand on the good bits not go back to the bland and souless average at best imho DA2. Until see a full on expansion with at least 20+hours within not including replay, until then won't know direction they will head with next title and if something would want. An expansion rather than DLC would give me clearer idea of how things will turn out for DA3.

DA2 is what it is and that is something I do not like or enjoy, but I do like the fact it seems to me maybe just maybe Bioware really are listening to what people have been saying since released. Still nothing they do will fix Da2 for me since they can't change the original game only add to it at extra cost so will wait and see how much they take onboard by time DA3 comes out.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 01 août 2011 - 08:18 .

[lizzbee]

MonkeyLungs wrote...

Just because you don't see a bug doesn't mean it isn't there. /roachradar

Yay!  Someone finally states the obvious   As someone who experienced every bug mentioned in the review, just in slightly different places, and in the main game as well after Patch 1.03, I'd just like to thank you.

You can dispute the emphasis the reviewer made of the bugs he experienced in the review, you can debate his assessement of the overall gameplay, or of the storyline, or wonder why he rated the DLC so low, but to discredit the entire review because you never experienced the bugs he mentioned, and to go so far as some have as to call him a liar, is the very height of hubris.  /rant

I don't agree with his score, and I found a lot of the character interaction actually quite touching, but I agree with many of the points he raised about the combat.

[erynnar]

I am wondering if their review of Legacy was more about DA2 than the DLC itself. That's the impression I got. Still, Legacy was not what he made it seem.

[In Exile]

Gunderic wrote...
You're actually very like to get an even/higher number of people rating games on Gamespot than on metacritic, possibly because you don't have to write a review to do so.

The scores tend to be much more balanced, regardless. I would assume a lot of the reviews get moderated faster because the rules there probably tend to be stricter for trolling. That, and Gamespot seems to be a more low-profile target for trolling, since trolling on metacritic is more likely to get you attention.

Interestingly enough, DA2 has a 7.3 user score on gamespot on PC, 7.5 on Mac and 8.0 user score on PS3, an 8.0 user score on 360. Which (IMO) reflects the majority opinion - good-to-mediocre game and poorer than DA:O, with some people really liking it and some really hating it, and most in-between. 

In comparison, DA:O was 8.8 and 8.7 on the 360/PS3. So DA2 was not as well received but the gap was not as significant... until you get to PC where you go from 9.5 to 7.3. 

[In Exile]

erynnar wrote...

I am wondering if their review of Legacy was more about DA2 than the DLC itself. That's the impression I got. Still, Legacy was not what he made it seem.

He reviewed DA2. He gave it an 8.0. I quoted some of the choice bits from his DA2 review. I think he's just trying to jump the bandwagon. 

[atheelogos]

Well I've never liked Gamespot reviews. Half the time they don't know what they're talking about. I mean these are the people that gave Origins and Mass Effect an 8.5....

[Shadowbanner]

Everyone is giving this DLC a mediocre 5: Gamespy, Gamespot, Gamesradar etc...

A mediocre DLC for a mediocre game, fitting.

[coomber]

5 out of 10 from Eurogamer now, too.

Still, when I get round to buying the Ultimate Edition, or whatever it will be called when all the DLC is finally included, maybe I'll like it.