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[Anathemic]

Did not buy DA2, not buying any DLC for it.

[Gavinthelocust]

Anathemic wrote...

Did not buy DA2, not buying any DLC for it.

Posting about it though.

[Anathemic]

Gavinthelocust wrote...

Anathemic wrote...

Did not buy DA2, not buying any DLC for it.

Posting about it though.

Just giving my opinion, or more correctly my view/stance on it

[devSin]

Dude, DLC never reviews well at these sorts of places. Who cares?

Filament wrote...

3) I didn't encounter any of those audio glitches.

I don't know about cracks and pops, but I really do despise the way this engine handles audio. It infuriates me to no end that I have to wheel the camera around to hear anything (to get around their "spatial" audio crap; at least it doesn't bug out quite as often as Origins did), a moving source changes way too rapidly (if I have to chase after you to hear what you're saying, SOMEBODY DID SOMETHING WRONG), it's not set up in any intelligible manner (wow, we reached a trigger point and now there is party banter, on top of the conversation of the peasants we just passed, beside the comment of the person we just bumped into, all smothered by a fat dump of environmental effects from hell).

And to top it all off, when they swapped out FMOD for whatever crap they use now, I guess they decided to go through and mute the hell out of everything, just for kicks. There are almost no high highs or low lows, and everything is normalized to the most tepid volume that I've ever heard come out of these speakers. I have to turn Windows volume up to 100%, and I still can't get decent audio (Origins or Mass Effect could rattle the windows at that level).

How did this happen, BioWare? Are you all deaf now and you just can't tell? Or is it only the PC version, which you don't care about anyway?

[In Exile]

It feels like gamespot is trying to pile on DA2 to say they're in line with fan perceptions... but ironically Legacy was the well received product vs. DA2 as a whole.

[Xewaka]

Upsettingshorts wrote...
And if they conclude plot threads, you get people whining that they'd have to spend money to see plot threads concluded.
For evidence of this see the Mass Effect 2 (and 3) forum threads about Arrival, that conclusively establishes a pre-Mass Effect 3 worldstate for Shepard.

Which I don't understand. Why does these things happen when I didn't play through them? Why not concluding the story in the game it was supposed to present it? Why must we be forced to buy add-ins to get the whole release?

[upsettingshorts]

Xewaka wrote...

Which I don't understand. Why does these things happen when I didn't play through them? Why not concluding the story in the game it was supposed to present it? Why must we be forced to buy add-ins to get the whole release?

Because they already know that not all of their players will purchase the DLC they want those who do spend the money to be rewarded with content that will matter.  At least, I believe I remember seeing Christina Norman or someone Tweet something to that extent.  As such, all Mass Effect DLC is canon - such as anything in those games can be.

The reverse of your question would be, "I paid $10, why shouldn't I get more significant content than someone who doesn't?"

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 29 juillet 2011 - 06:23 .

[ademska]

Anathemic wrote...

Just giving my opinion, or more correctly my view/stance on it

and how worthwhile it was!!

[Yalision]

Glad I refrained from purchasing this DLC like I said I would. Seems fairly sub-par. It will take much more than a DLC like this to catch my interest ever again. Yet somehow, for now, I keep lurking through the threads here hoping to find something that will excite me. Apparently I'm hoping to find a unicorn...

[Jabba L5]

In Exile wrote...

It feels like gamespot is trying to pile on DA2 to say they're in line with fan perceptions... but ironically Legacy was the well received product vs. DA2 as a whole.

It seems you're pulling stuff out of your ass.

[DieHigh2012]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Xewaka wrote...

Which I don't understand. Why does these things happen when I didn't play through them? Why not concluding the story in the game it was supposed to present it? Why must we be forced to buy add-ins to get the whole release?

Because they already know that not all of their players will purchase the DLC they want those who do spend the money to be rewarded with content that will matter.  At least, I believe I remember seeing Christina Norman or someone Tweet something to that extent.  As such, all Mass Effect DLC is canon - such as anything in those games can be.

The reverse of your question would be, "I paid $10, why shouldn't I get more significant content than someone who doesn't?"

I have to agree with him, DLC should be little extras and such. Not plotline elements that should have been in the game to begin with.

DLC is getting way out of hand now a days. It's only a ploy to get more money, you shouldn't be so quick accept it as normal.

[upsettingshorts]

DieHigh2012 wrote...

I have to agree with him, DLC should be little extras and such. Not plotline elements that should have been in the game to begin with.

I disagree, because if that's what DLC "should be" then I simply wouldn't buy them because I'd view it as a waste of money.  If they're going to charge $7-10 for downloadable content I want something significant.  It is for this reason I've only ever bought one of BioWare's item packs (because I wanted a gun like the Mattock before they even announced they'd be releasing one).

Xewaka is ideologically opposed to all DLC in any case, and this is informing on his position.

DieHigh2012 wrote...

It's only a ploy to get more money, you shouldn't be so quick accept it as normal.

I accept DLC when it offers something I want at a price I am willing to pay.   It's just business.

Full disclosure:  I have not bought Legacy.  I might at some point.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 29 juillet 2011 - 06:39 .

[Leonia]

Buying DLC today is a lot like buying expansion packs back in the old days, except the story and canon continues on in the new, cheaper DLC packs.

Always vote with your wallet, if you want more content.. sometimes you are going to have to buy it.

[Xewaka]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Xewaka wrote...
Which I don't understand. Why does these things happen when I didn't play through them? Why not concluding the story in the game it was supposed to present it? Why must we be forced to buy add-ins to get the whole releas.e

Because they already know that not all of their players will purchase the DLC they want those who do spend the money to be rewarded with content that will matter.  At least, I believe I remember seeing Christina Norman or someone Tweet something to that extent.  As such, all Mass Effect DLC is canon - such as anything in those games can be.
The reverse of your question would be, "I paid $10, why shouldn't I get more significant content than someone who doesn't?"

Isn't the fact that there is a rather wide continuity gap between episodes -games- be a reason enough?

[Persephone]

In Exile wrote...

It feels like gamespot is trying to pile on DA2 to say they're in line with fan perceptions... but ironically Legacy was the well received product vs. DA2 as a whole.

I felt the same reading that....review. Esp, since I ran into NONE of the technical problems they used as justification. Maybe they should check their RIG?

[upsettingshorts]

Xewaka wrote...

Isn't the fact that there is a rather wide continuity gap between episodes -games- be a reason enough?

Not really. 

ME2 DLC advanced the worldstate to something ME3 can use.

Liara is the Shadow Broker, Shepard blew up a relay.  It happened, it establishes a premise that players can choose to experience interactively - for a fee.  Or they can just read about it, as if it happened in say one of the books or comics, something else you'd have to pay to experience.

To me, it's no different.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 29 juillet 2011 - 06:48 .

[Zeratul20]

Gamespot gives damming review of Legacy

Better call someone to clear it, then. We don't want Legacy to flood.

(I'm sorry, I couldn't resist.. )

[Costin_Razvan]

Persephone wrote...

In Exile wrote...

It feels like gamespot is trying to pile on DA2 to say they're in line with fan perceptions... but ironically Legacy was the well received product vs. DA2 as a whole.

I felt the same reading that....review. Esp, since I ran into NONE of the technical problems they used as justification. Maybe they should check their RIG?

Here's a fine point: Some people will get bugs no matter what they do...and they were playing it on Xbox so not sure what they could check on it.

Anyway, I seriously lol. The family elements and companions were quite fine in this DLC but the main plot was ****...way to go gamespot.

[AngryFrozenWater]

Persephone wrote...

In Exile wrote...

It feels like gamespot is trying to pile on DA2 to say they're in line with fan perceptions... but ironically Legacy was the well received product vs. DA2 as a whole.

I felt the same reading that....review. Esp, since I ran into NONE of the technical problems they used as justification. Maybe they should check their RIG?

Good morning.

I didn't run into any sound problems. I did encounter hard to kill enemies. Their health bar got stuck with only a few pixels left. And no... My rig is fine. I didn't get any of the crashes that some people reported either.

To be fair... You cannot wave away bugs because YOU did not get them. That's no guarantee that others (even on identical machines) cannot get them. Of course you know that, Persephone. Be sweet for once this early in the morning.

Modifié par AngryFrozenWater, 29 juillet 2011 - 07:11 .

[Nephi_1111]

...I Cant help but think that they gave legacy a bad review to try to make up for giving DA2 as a whole a good review

Sort of like the Oscars...
 

Modifié par Nephi_1111, 29 juillet 2011 - 07:12 .

[Zjarcal]

That review is garbage, seriously.

Bugs may indeed happen for some, but I do wonder if he tested it on more than one machine (which is the only fair thing to do for a reviewer). Considering that I haven seen barely any complaints about bugs in the forums, it's safe to say that's not a widespread issue.

Saying that the quest just "goes through the motions"... seriously. <_<

csfteeeer wrote...

i Really Disagree with this review.

he says that "it goes through the motions", and that's just not true.

i HATE DA2, but i like this DLC a lot, if it was going through the motions, i would have hated just as much as DA2.
i didn't really experienced any of the bugs he said, except for the sound thing, but that's no big deal.

i don't really understand what he meant with all the emotional impact thing.
i never cared for anything or anyone in DA2, except Varric and Isabela, but this DLC at the end, made me go "Awwww...",
No moment in DA2 made me do this, of course it would have been better if i cried or something, but that's at least a step forward.
the story and plot was more interesting than Anything in DA2 (hey!!! who would have thought that Hawke and his family could be Interesting!!!), not to mention the Banter is better,  No more F***ing waves or re-used maps, no more maps that are BEYOND the word bland, etc.

if DA2 is an 8.0, then legacy has to be something like an 80, it's better than the actual game (LOL)

Note: this is OBVIOUSLY my opinion, you always have to remember that, i don't need to say IMO after every damn word.
just in case someone wanted to argue or something.

Kudos for not letting your feelings on DA2 prevent you from appreciating the DLC. :happy:

[Melca36]

Anathemic wrote...

Did not buy DA2, not buying any DLC for it.

Then why bother posting? <_<

[Zubie]

Disagree with the review. Was quite an enjoyable DLC. If only the rest of DA2 was at the same level.

[Morroian]

Jabba L5 wrote...

In Exile wrote...

It feels like gamespot is trying to pile on DA2 to say they're in line with fan perceptions... but ironically Legacy was the well received product vs. DA2 as a whole.

It seems you're pulling stuff out of your ass.

OK then explain how they give DA2 8.0 and Legacy 5.5, by the same reviewer, according to you.