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[Zeratul20]

Zjarcal wrote...

That review is garbage, seriously.

Bugs may indeed happen for some, but I do wonder if he tested it on more than one machine (which is the only fair thing to do for a reviewer). Considering that I haven seen barely any complaints about bugs in the forums, it's safe to say that's not a widespread issue.

While I appreciate the fact that you liked the DLC (still have to try it myself, waiting for the Escapist's review), I would like to point out that this is somewhat harsh. If it has bugs on one Xbox, it is fair to assume that the game still has bugs. You can't expect a reviewer to replay the same game on several machines. They just don't have the time. (Though they usually mention what they played it on, etc.)
So... Calling them out on bugs is justified, methinks.

[bzombo]

I could care less about the review. I'm enjoying Legacy. Even the graphics seem sharper. It seems Bioware went out of its way to put out a solid dlc.

[Droma]

i don't know what's wrong with all the reviews in the last time but it seems like reviewers tend to get totally lazy. for example look at reviews to the 3ds game "resident evil the mercenaries 3d". if you have actually played that game you can see how nearly every reviewer didn't spend more then 3hours on the game, cause it changes a lot after that. but to go back ontopic, it seems like he played it on casual and complaints about easy encounters and then dies miserably on the final boss and complans about him beeing broken. just stupid imo.

[Realmzmaster]

Here are a few more reviews that I found to look at:

www.gamefront.com/dragon-age-2-dlc-legacy-review/

gamerlimit.com/2011/07/gamer-limit-dlc-review-dragon-age-ii-legacy/

www.thegameeffect.com/game/profile/d704a0b2-6941-4853-8ce4-8f9d8dfd1a19

www.polishtheconsole.com/2011/07/27/dragon-age-2-legacy-review/

videogamewriters.com/review-dragon-age-ii-legacy-18022

biowarefans.com/2011/07/dragon-age-2-legacy-impressions/

I also looked at metacritic, but there was only one good review that gave it a 7. The other reviews were just people responding to other people's scores some giving the DLC a 0 to balance out the 10 given by a Bioware" fan boy" .

One reviewer gave it a 0 because he/she could not get it off of Steam. I have a hard time taking metacritic seriously.

[Melca36]

Troll reviews.

[Zeratul20]

Realmzmaster wrote...

Here are a few more reviews that I found to look at:

www.gamefront.com/dragon-age-2-dlc-legacy-review/

gamerlimit.com/2011/07/gamer-limit-dlc-review-dragon-age-ii-legacy/

www.thegameeffect.com/game/profile/d704a0b2-6941-4853-8ce4-8f9d8dfd1a19

www.polishtheconsole.com/2011/07/27/dragon-age-2-legacy-review/

videogamewriters.com/review-dragon-age-ii-legacy-18022

biowarefans.com/2011/07/dragon-age-2-legacy-impressions/

I also looked at metacritic, but there was only one good review that gave it a 7. The other reviews were just people responding to other people's scores some giving the DLC a 0 to balance out the 10 given by a Bioware" fan boy" .

One reviewer gave it a 0 because he/she could not get it off of Steam. I have a hard time taking metacritic seriously.

That's not metacritic's fault. It's a useful tool to check how well the game's being received by the professional press, but the user reviews are usually worthless. (Because of the users posting them, of course.)

[ademska]

what do you expect from a site where the base game has a generally good critic score and and a 30-something user review score?

people will always be idiots with severe butt pains.

[Bazedragon]

Wait, they've timed it at only 2 hours? Were they ONLY playing casual?

. A cluster of snipers doesn't swarm from doorways--it just teleports in

Wait, what? Where? This is definitely more common in the maingame.

but without a forceful narrative arc to support it, Legacy is soulless

People also say the same about maingame. And I disagree... on both counts.

Most of these are the typically narrow brown corridors similar to those through which you've already passed...

Are you missing the part where this is a 2000 year-old FORTRESS? Since when did the corridors in a fortress vary largely?


Sorry for picking out the worst bits. Overall? Disagree strongly with that review.

[In Exile]

Jabba L5 wrote...

It seems you're pulling stuff out of your ass.

Read the feedback thread for yourself, and compare it with the DA2 one. You can argue that the people commenting there were only fans of DA2 to begin with... but allegedly so was the gamespot reviewer. DA2's feedback is, generally, positive. 

[Jabba L5]

Zjarcal wrote...

That review is garbage, seriously.

Bugs may indeed happen for some, but I do wonder if he tested it on more than one machine (which is the only fair thing to do for a reviewer). Considering that I haven seen barely any complaints about bugs in the forums, it's safe to say that's not a widespread issue.

Saying that the quest just "goes through the motions"... seriously. <_<

He played it on both the Xbox and the PC.

Factsopinions.

[ademska]

you can cheekily link to facts-vs-opinions pages all you want, but the fact (teehee) of the matter is that he's complaining about a number of bugs the majority of posters here didn't encounter.

[Xewaka]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Xewaka wrote...
Isn't the fact that there is a rather wide continuity gap between episodes -games- be a reason enough?

Not really. 
ME2 DLC advanced the worldstate to something ME3 can use.
Liara is the Shadow Broker, Shepard blew up a relay.  It happened, it establishes a premise that players can choose to experience interactively - for a fee.  Or they can just read about it, as if it happened in say one of the books or comics, something else you'd have to pay to experience.
To me, it's no different.

It's no different for me either, in the sense that ancillary material should expand the knowledge setting without actually altering the continuity of the main plot. It should be peripheral, not integral.

[Realmzmaster]

The reviewer and I must have been playing different DLC. The final boss was hardly broken. He was tough. I Iiked the way he change the landscape. I really had to watch my party and find safe havens where the party recieved the least amount of damage.

No the DLC was not going to address the problems of the main game that would take a major overhaul according to some forum mates. But even some of the harshest DA2 critics on the forum like Legacy. If you can make your critics take notice in a positive way you are moving in the right direction.

The DLC was not perfect but it shows what Bioware can do and it does listen to the fans, but is not govern by them.

Modifié par Realmzmaster, 29 juillet 2011 - 08:07 .

[DragonRageGT]

I respect Metacritic's critics' reviews much more than user's reviews. But quite the contraire when it comes to GameSpot User's score and User's Score there now is around 6.7, while I'd give a 7 myself. So log on and vote if you want to change that!

Problem with a DLC like Legacy is that it may be a little too costly to produce, therefore it may end up being a little more expensive than the gameplay hours it offers would suggest. I really hate DLC's in general. I've always been a fan of full expansions. They surely used to give our money's worth in the good old days.

TotSC, SoA, HotU. LoD, were great stuff to me while the "premium content" were always a bunch of expensive ****. Wish the industry would go back into making full expansions for games. Someone mentioned movies? What if they started making 15 minutes episodes for 5 bucks to show on the cinemas all around? Would anyone like those? Blergh...

Modifié par RageGT, 29 juillet 2011 - 08:09 .

[Jabba L5]

Morroian wrote...

OK then explain how they give DA2 8.0 and Legacy 5.5, by the same reviewer, according to you.

Uh, the review's right there. I haven't played Legacy myself, so I don't know if I'd share his sentiments.

Here's some extra info on his twitter though:

KevinVanOrd wrote...

***My tweets are quickfire rants on whatever I might be thinking--not a balanced evaluation.***

***As with 100% of every game I review, this one will receive the score and analysis I believe it deserves. No less.***

***I gave Mass Effect (1) an 8.5 and one of its DLC a 4; I am capable of reviewing DLC on its own terms.***

Oh Bioware. The fact that your DAII DLC doesn't give two ****s about the choices I made in the main game makes me very very angry.

And goodness... you didn't even try to hide that enemies spawn in. No swarming in from doorways at least? Just teleporting in?

Anyone playing the DAII DLC: Are you having any sound pops/bugs?

Hey Bioware: Perhaps if my party members held position as I commanded, I might win your broken final boss. Just sayin'.

And now the battle has bugged out. The boss has no health but won't die because the script to move to the next stage has broken. I wish y'all could see this. Bashing on the boss for the last 4 minutes. He has no health.

And just for a few laughs:

KevinVanOrd wrote...
Granted, I'm coming in after the absolutely excellent New Vegas DLC.

JohnEpler wrote...

DraCZeQQ wrote...
Poor Bioware... first TW2 is released soon after DA2 to show us, how real RPG should look like and now Obsidian released Old World Blues to show us how real DLC should look like ... i dont get why other RPG making companies can be so mean! =(

We'll just have to bite our lip and think of happy things to keep the tears from flowing.
Whoops. That's my snarky comment for the month.

Modifié par Jabba L5, 29 juillet 2011 - 08:22 .

[xkg]

Jabba L5 wrote...

KevinVanOrd wrote...
And now the battle has bugged out. The boss has no health but won't die because the script to move to the next stage has broken. I wish y'all could see this. Bashing on the boss for the last 4 minutes. He has no health.[/i]

So it looks like he is not lying about the bugs. This is game breaking bug.
Somoene else in other thread posted about the same problem.

Regan Cousland wrote...

Corypheus won't die! I micro-managed my way to a comprehensive victory on the Nightmare difficulty setting, I knocked his health down to nearly nothing -- and now he's invincible. I've been hacking away at him for fifteen minutes and he just won't die. Is this is glitch?! It's so damn annoying when you've put all that effort into it for a glitch to drag you out of the experience. I mean, it's a great DLC, and I was all set to give it five stars on PSN Store, but now I can't even complete the thing. *sulks*

Help, please?!!

http://social.biowar...58901/6#7985053

Modifié par xkg, 29 juillet 2011 - 08:34 .

[csfteeeer]

Zeratul20 wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...

That review is garbage, seriously.

Bugs may indeed happen for some, but I do wonder if he tested it on more than one machine (which is the only fair thing to do for a reviewer). Considering that I haven seen barely any complaints about bugs in the forums, it's safe to say that's not a widespread issue.

While I appreciate the fact that you liked the DLC (still have to try it myself, waiting for the Escapist's review), I would like to point out that this is somewhat harsh. If it has bugs on one Xbox, it is fair to assume that the game still has bugs. You can't expect a reviewer to replay the same game on several machines. They just don't have the time. (Though they usually mention what they played it on, etc.)
So... Calling them out on bugs is justified, methinks.

jaha, are you serious?!?!?!
Have you seen the Escapist's Review for DA2? "A pinnacle of role-playing games with well-designed mechanics and excellent story-telling, Dragon Age II is what videogames are meant to be"
????
LOL!
i guess what i'm trying to say is, look for someone else's review, The Escapist is useles.... Except for Yahtzee, he's great.

[ademska]

^^^^ that's pretty much my opinion save for the flaws that come inherently with being fairly rushed-out. if they'd had six more months, i'd probably consider it my perfect game.

this is where the facts vs opinions thing carries weight, bro diddly,

[csfteeeer]

ademska wrote...

^^^^ that's pretty much my opinion save for the flaws that come inherently with being fairly rushed-out. if they'd had six more months, i'd probably consider it my perfect game.

this is where the facts vs opinions thing carries weight, bro diddly,

ok ok that's true, but even then, DA2 has flaws and he, in his review, didn't even bother to mention a single one, and even decided to out right lie ("DA2 is one of the best looking games of this Generation" WHAT?!? (he said it in his video review)).

[FieryDove]

xkg wrote...

So it looks like he is not lying about the bugs. This is game breaking bug.
Somoene else in other thread posted about the same problem.

http://social.biowar...58901/6#7985053

No one is lying if they got that bug.

That bug is not a DLC bug and it was very rare. I had it in my very first game with the first gate guardian. Talk about upset. (End game stuffs) I went back all the way before *that thing that happened* switched out party members and still got it everytime. I had to just delete character and start over. It is called the immortal bug I believe a Dev told me. I didn't get it again till a later patch.

Now it happens a lot more...maybe patch 1.02, 1.03? Critters are the worse for this and don't die many times until you stop hitting them. Just walk away and they...fall over dead after a few seconds.

[Iwasdrunkbro]

Catsith wrote...

I very much agree with Kevin. I loved his 9.5 Origins review and his 8.0 DA2 review, and this is spot on too. The add-on is about 80% combat, and it's the same old mindless hack and slash through boring environments and outdated graphics without anything too interesting besides the brief dealings with the Grey Warden group. There's really no reason to get this unless you REALLY enjoyed Dragon Age 2's combat.. and especially when Old World Blues is the same price and drastically better overall.

I also decided to go with Old World Blues over this especially after reading some of the reviews. The problem that I see is that Bioware believes their combat system is top notch when its mediocre at best. For some reason Bioware also believes that mindless hack and slash is more important than story ...in an rpg. So based on those 2 issues, I can 100% agree with the review without even playing the dlc.

I pass. Try again Bioware. Maybe one day the people over there will stop worshiping the button mashers and get back to making fun rpgs.

[chart4ever]

Well the DLC wasn't bad.

But it wasn't great either.

They tried to make Hawke's story more...  epic?

By sending him to battle a powerful Ancient Evil which he/she does in about 4hours... not so epic.

Modifié par chart4ever, 29 juillet 2011 - 09:09 .

[Iwasdrunkbro]

Also $5.00 an hour? Really? Id rather hire a drunken clown to entertain me for 2 hours at $5.00 an hour than mindless hack and slash bland combat. Overpriced DLC is OVERPRICED!

[Dave of Canada]

Iwasdrunkbro wrote...

Also $5.00 an hour? Really? Id rather hire a drunken clown to entertain me for 2 hours at $5.00 an hour than mindless hack and slash bland combat. Overpriced DLC is OVERPRICED!

Then rather letting us know you'd rather do it, just do it. I'm 90% sure it would entertain you more than typing how much you hate DA2 over and over.