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[Firerush]

Apparently she is supposed to be in the watch headquarters after crossroad keep, but I have reloaded and tried to get her to appear, but I can't and now I'm stuck and can't go on with the game

Modifié par Firerush, 29 juillet 2011 - 07:53 .

[kevL]

it's prolly a global_var that wasn't set (at the end of the battle under Crossroad Keep). Try standing outside Brelaina's office, ie. in the Merchant Quarter, and run this from the console:

`
DebugMode 1
rs ga_global_int("b2300Finale", "1")
DebugMode 0
`


Then jump into her office and see what transpires.

ps. ' rs ' == ' RunScript '

Modifié par kevL, 29 juillet 2011 - 01:52 .

[Firerush]

Tried that, what do you mean by jump, by using a console command or the guy who ports me there in crossroaed keep?

[Firerush]

It didn't work, any other ideas, I don't want to start over.

Might it be an issue with me being a yaun-ti pureblood with class levels in hellfire warlock (storm of zehir features)

[I_Raps]

What exactly happened? You were in the keep, you killed BG and henchmen ("and looted their bodies!" /Neeshka), you then talked to Vale.* Then what. There should have been a cutscene with the bodies burning, then cut directly to a conversation between Brelaina and Aldanon. Did that cutscene play at all?

Also, you should try kevL's console command in the keep, before you talk to Vale.


* p.s. how different the world would be if your PC could just say, "wait a second, I've got some wyrmsage left...."

Modifié par I_Raps, 29 juillet 2011 - 08:35 .

[kevL]

yah, like mr. I_Raps says,

What cutscenes did you get at (1) Crossroad Keep w/ Vale, (2) in Brelaina's office. Here's Danger's playthrough of what should happen ( bottom of part 50, top of 51 )

Firerush wrote...

.. what do you mean by jump, by using a console command or the guy who ports me there in crossroaed keep?

just meant the regular port by Vale, srry. So yes, enter the command before talking to Vale .. even before the fight w/ BG starts

Might it be an issue with me being a yaun-ti pureblood with class levels in hellfire warlock (storm of zehir features)

doubt it .. this has been a problem area with Vale and his crew running around getting themselves bumped off, etc. If we can pinpoint what goes right, and when it goes bad we ought be able to set ya up again

Modifié par kevL, 29 juillet 2011 - 10:23 .

[I_Raps]

kevL wrote...

doubt it .. this has been a problem area with Vale and his crew running around getting themselves bumped off, etc.

Somewhat off topic, but I like to grab amusement where I find it...

... the remarkably common "dead Sevann" bug here lends itself to an amazingly simple solution, because something works here that never, ever works since way back when they didn't know enough to number Baldur's Gate. 

You all may consider this a puzzle....

Modifié par I_Raps, 29 juillet 2011 - 10:42 .

[kevL]

I_Raps wrote...

You all may consider this a puzzle....

yer puzzles are way too tuff fer me, _Raps


uhm, talke to his dead body .. no, no wait ...........

Modifié par kevL, 29 juillet 2011 - 11:54 .

[Sannonea]

 I'm having same experience of her not spawning and the suggestions above are not working - any other ideas?

[I_Raps]

Here is some good technical information about this
 
In case it adds to the possible diagnosis, and going back to my original query, it seems the conversation "20_brelaina_ald_0038" is dropping out on the action "ga_move("wp_2016_pc_2")"

The rest of the post (unfortunately no resolution, but we may be able to change that):  old forum post

Also, from a couple other scattered things I've seen (and the fact that this never happens to me, despite my torturing the game with all the mods it can bear), try this:

Before talking to Vale, click and right-click on your main PC, then

`
debugmode 1
rs ga_party_limit(12)
debugmode 0
`

It doesn't have to be 12, but 6 or more probably to be on the safe side.

Also, you may want to try kevL's console commands above but be sure to do the click and right-click on your main PC first, if you haven't already.  The PC has to be both the target and the actor for most of the console commands to work.

Modifié par I_Raps, 30 juillet 2011 - 04:42 .

[kevL]

Question: when you arrive at Brelaina's office, is Aldanon there???


Assuming he's not, the script that fires on entering B's office ( 2016_cliententer ) relies on four conditions for the Zhjaeve scene. The first is FiredFromPartyTransition(), which I'm not familiar with so let's hope that's ok.

The other three:
1.
rs ga_global_int("00_nAct", "2")

2.
rs ga_global_int("b2300Finale", "1")

3.
Quest "Murderer!" (must be complete, or rather beyond the "Sir Grayson will make you his squire ..." stage)
- Because of your elevation to nobility, you have avoided extradition to Luskan and will instead stand trial in Neverwinter.
rs ga_journal("20_squiring", 40, 1, 1, 0)

( The Trial should be done, i include that command for use in case the Journal didn't update correctly. )


If your journal says #3 has indeed been met, try standing in Brelaina's office after the BG battle and run commands #1 & #2, then follow them up with

rs 2016_cliententer()


Alternately, before the BG battle, run #1 & #2 then defeat Garius and let Vale shunt your PC onward ..



(if this don't work i'm moving to Haiti   - give it a shot 'spose

[I_Raps]

Aaaaaaaah!  Where there's a will mule-headed orneriness, there's a way!

Nevalle should have busted in when you're talking to Zhjaeve[/b] about joining you. Typing this in should get you going again

`
DebugMode 1
rs ka_hotspot_hide ("2300CKAdventure")
rs ka_hotspot_show ("2100CrossroadKeep")
rs ga_global_int ("20_bForceZhjaeve", "=1")
rs ga_door_open ("17_dr_zhjaeve_cell")
rs ga_roster_party_add ("zhjaeve[/b]")
rs ga_reset_level ("zhjaeve[/b]", 1)
rs ga_roster_selectable ("zhjaeve[/b]", 1)
rs ga_roster_campaignnpc ("zhjaeve[/b]", 0)
rs ga_journal ("20_return_to_ck", 10, 1, 0, 0)
rs ka_gui_party_select
DebugMode 0
`

After this you'll need to travel to a new version of crossroad keep that has just opened up on your map


Thank the estimable thurgood !

[kevL]

no .. I think it's before that, I_Raps (those take place after the PC has entered and Zhjaeve has properly spawned)

you've got me thinking about the PartyLimit, tho .. but even that should be okay since she's not actually being added to the party, until the conversation that you've cited


So here's another question for our dear confused interlopers, Does the conversation between Aldanon and Brelaina start, at all?

[I_Raps]

The thurgood code won't fix the conversation - but it will get you running again after the conversation breaks.

That's probably why the script problem was never fixed... since the bug was rare and virtually unreproducible without actually solving it, once people found a workaround, incentive to keep after it went away.  Especially given the torturous methodology of several-hours-apart forum questions and answers.

Modifié par I_Raps, 30 juillet 2011 - 05:14 .

[Sannonea]

I read thru the old forum post and tried starting earlier - redid the whole keep. I didn't know about the click and right-click on PC, so thank you for that info. However, neither kevL's nor I_Raps console commands changed anything. Frustrating, but I'll keep an eye out for new things to try.

[kevL]

Is Aldanon in the room?

[Firerush]

OK just got back from work, here's what happens

After the battle with black garius's men, I loot the corpses and get vale to port me back. After the fire burning/Priests's rising cinematic I see the long conversation between Aldanon and Brelaina, but when it ends Zhjaeve isn't in the room, and I tried searching everywhere for her, and I mean EVERYWHERE, despite them saying I should talk to the prisoner there is no Githzerai prisoner to talk to.

I'll try some of these solutions and see if they work

Modifié par Firerush, 30 juillet 2011 - 05:54 .

[Firerush]

OK, I tried everythign suggested here even thurgood's and with his consoles sequence I can get access to the new crossroads keep, but it seems that zhajeve is NOWHERE TO BE FOUND IN THE GAME

how do I know, because I spawned the DM with console commands and tried to get him to force zhjaeve into my party a dozen times. Then I tried spawning amon jerro (who I haven't met yet) and he appeared just fine. so apparently zhjaeve isn't in my game at all as I cannot even spawn her with the DM

[kevL]

hm, Stand a few feet behind Aldanon & run these:

rs ga_roster_add_blueprint("zhjaeve", "co_zhjaeve")
rs ga_roster_spawn("zhjaeve", "sp_2016_zhjaeve")
rs ga_start_convo("10_brelaina", "20_brelaina_ald", 0, 0, 1, 0)


Zhjaeve herself should appear in the cell after the 2nd above ..


Edit, if neither the DM nor above spawns Z. (the functions are slightly different) then my guess is it's a model issue, perhaps w/ Appearance.2da

Modifié par kevL, 30 juillet 2011 - 07:22 .

[kevL]

i think I've found it,

Do you have a custom Appearance.2da in override? (i do, Pain might want to ****** yer ears up 'ere)

line 588: label "NPC_Zhjaeve_MaleOnly" should maybe read "NPC_Zhjaeve"


( i ain't no model experto )

[Firerush]

I'm sorry, but that didn't work either. What's should I do with Appearance.2da?

edit: I don't think that will help, I got it on Steam so I can't modify or see any of the files

Modifié par Firerush, 30 juillet 2011 - 07:42 .

[kevL]

sure ya can, they're just hiding somewhere ..

Try searching your drives for "2DA_X2.zip" & "Appearance.2da" - esp. the latter. (The former contains the official version)

If you *know* you have a custom Appearance.2da, back it up & go to line 588 in a fresh copy. Then copy all of line 588 from the official version into it. Finally, try to spawn Zhjaeve again -- or heck, just rename the override version temporarily and see what happens.


i'm making a few assumptions here, ya

[Firerush]

ok, I can't seem to find the file outside the zip folder though

I created a backup in the override and copied the stuff form the official, though it made not actual changes, if this doesn't work what should I do? I contacted Atari and told them the problem and bioware is useless thanks to their new browser change and having removed all the old forums

[Firerush]

didn't work, I also tried using wall of perilous flame to burn down the watch house out of frustration, that didn't work either

Modifié par Firerush, 30 juillet 2011 - 08:25 .

[kevL]

Lol (almost) yah, they even take that away, don't they.

geez, I'm at a loss.

.. was really hoping there was a separate .2da w/ an invalid entry.


All i can suggest at this point is backing up your Saves (etc) and re-installing the game. (It might actually be a corruption in the saves, however). Both the DM and my commands above should have brought Z into play .. and unless someone more versed in Models or fubar

has something to say .... Could you open that .2da in a text editor (no wordwrap) and copy & paste line 588 "NPC_Zhjaeve" here?


ps. will think tomorrow