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[Deathwurm]

Big Thanks Trapper! You are OK despite what I keep hearing about you!
j/k

I'm not sure if it's as good, but GoG has VTM: Redemption in its' catalog at $5.99 USD and they are always worth keeping an eye on because something is always going on sale. Based on my experiences with GoG, if it does go on sale it should be about $2.99.

[Tommy6860]

Redemption, in its day, was the best looking graphically. I liked it, but it was broken when playing with companions with the AI. Collision detection was abysmal, as were that of your allies/companions. They also didn't react to their own health levels many times, though the game is scripted for them to do so, I spent a lot of time healing them while losing my health. This among other glaring bugs and glitches. Graphically though, it still looks great considering it came out over 11 years ago. Honestly, I liked the game, but it wasn't worth it then, considering I got a good looking game that didn't work well.

[Cutlass Jack]

Redemption isn't anywhere near as good as Bloodlines. But its not terrible. Except for the dialogue of the protaganist, which is so bad its nearly good.

But it certainly doesn't offer near the amount of roleplay options.

[Deathwurm]

I've heard the same things about Redemption that you guys are mentioning. It does have the reputation of being a "step down" from Bloodlines.

The one constant I've heard about the VTM games in general seems to be bugs and glitches, bu then again they are a product of their time and give us a little perspective when we get frustrated about how many bugs games come out with now.

[AngryFrozenWater]

I've just bought it. I've found a patch program that allows the game to run on wide screen and I've set compatibility to an earlier Windows version and the game runs fine.

[Matchy Pointy]

It is a bit buggy and umpolished techicly, but still one of my all time favorite games

[Tommy6860]

I had no issues running it right off. But I can only run it 1600*1200 max @ 32bit. This is my first time playing it, though I played Redemption long ago. Honestly, Redemption still looks better, though it is 4 years older. Amway, link to the patch?

[AngryFrozenWater]

Tommy6860 wrote...

I had no issues running it right off. But I can only run it 1600*1200 max @ 32bit. This is my first time playing it, though I played Redemption long ago. Honestly, Redemption still looks better, though it is 4 years older. Amway, link to the patch?

Download this: Vampire The Masquerade: Bloodlines - Resolution Patcher.

Copy that file to the game's folder which contains the engine.dll (found in "\\Steam\\steamapps\\common\\vampire the masquerade - bloodlines\\Bin") and run it in that folder. That allowed me to play the game on a 1920*1200 monitor. It supports other resolutions as well. The patch program changes the 4 standard resolutions to new ones and defaults to the lowest one. Just select the proper resolution in-game after patching it.

Modifié par AngryFrozenWater, 30 juillet 2011 - 07:39 .

[naughty99]

I just bought this game during the Steam sale and started playing it.

I really like it, love the story the characters and the abilities you get with various clans, but I'm having massive problems with the key bindings and movement for 3rd person camera that are preventing me from being able to play the game.

I use a NumPad, so I have to remap the keys for every game I play. However, every time I load a previously saved game, a lot of the key bindings change back to the default on me and I have to reset them every single time I load the game.

also as I always use 3rd person, sometimes the game gets stuck so that the character is facing the camera, and it's not possible to turn the PC around to walk forward. Essentially the game becomes unplayable at that point and I have to try to restart.

Also one more problem I keep having is that sometimes the walk/run toggle stops working, so that I'm only walking slowly everywhere and it's not possible to walk fast (ie., not possible to run). Again I have to restart the game to fix this.

Using Unofficial Patch 7.6b

Modifié par naughty99, 30 juillet 2011 - 08:02 .

[Tommy6860]

Thanks, I did my own settings with it as i prefer 1920*1080 for older game, too bad it cannot be played in windowed mode. But it doesn't offer to make the game run in 64bit mode, even if I run the game as an admin with XP settings.

[Deathwurm]

naughty99 wrote...

I just bought this game during the Steam sale and started playing it.

I really like it, love the story the characters and the abilities you get with various clans, but I'm having massive problems with the key bindings and movement for 3rd person camera that are preventing me from being able to play the game.

I use a NumPad, so I have to remap the keys for every game I play. However, every time I load a previously saved game, a lot of the key bindings change back to the default on me and I have to reset them every single time I load the game.

also as I always use 3rd person, sometimes the game gets stuck so that the character is facing the camera, and it's not possible to turn the PC around to walk forward. Essentially the game becomes unplayable at that point and I have to try to restart.

Also one more problem I keep having is that sometimes the walk/run toggle stops working, so that I'm only walking slowly everywhere and it's not possible to walk fast (ie., not possible to run). Again I have to restart the game to fix this.

Using Unofficial Patch 7.6b

To be honest, as I was going through the Steam Forums trying to figure out how to Patch it to run on Windows 7 64bit, I saw everything you've mentioned talked about a lot.

The Key Bindings not saving was one of the Gameplay issues I saw mentioned most often. I have no advice, but I did want to let you know you're not alone in experiencing these issues.

[Seagloom]

SOLID_EVEREST wrote...

I bet Steam is making a fortune from sales of Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines. I heard that the three main developers went their own way after the closure of Troika. From looking at the Wiki, neither of them looked to have any luck. I wish Tim Cain would've joined Obsidian, though.

Part of Troika's staff did join Obsidian Entertainment. One of the guys that a had a hand in Bloodlines later quit and opened DoubleBear Productions with another ex-Obsidian employee. A shame none of the big three ever met with any great success after Troika's disbanding.

What I found most puzzling about Troika's collapse was how poorly Bloodlines did commercially. If memory serves, it was their worst selling game. "The Temple of Elemental Evil" outsold it, I assume, because of the D&D license. That had to be it, as the game itself was notably buggier than Bloodlines ever was in my experience.

Modifié par Seagloom, 30 juillet 2011 - 10:30 .

[naughty99]

Have any of you played the pen-and-paper version of Masquerade?

[Deathwurm]

naughty99 wrote...

Have any of you played the pen-and-paper version of Masquerade?

I played a couple of times years ago when it was 1st introduced (I think it was actually re-introduced with a newer rule-set since) and I had a lot of fun. The players I played the few games with were a little too into it...one of them had Fangs he wore that he paid $150 for

The CCG was also a pretty good game. Fast moving IIRC.

[naughty99]

Deathwurm wrote...

naughty99 wrote...

Have any of you played the pen-and-paper version of Masquerade?

I played a couple of times years ago when it was 1st introduced (I think it was actually re-introduced with a newer rule-set since) and I had a lot of fun. The players I played the few games with were a little too into it...one of them had Fangs he wore that he paid $150 for

The CCG was also a pretty good game. Fast moving IIRC.

Sounds like fun - I'm not sure how I missed that one, as I was playing a few different horror themed games like C.H.I.L.L. and Call of Cthulu back in those days (early 1990s)

[Deathwurm]

Yeah, Naughty...that's when I played.

Another really good CCG that just didn't survive the glut on the Market was Mythos. It was based on Lovecraft's work and had some excellent Gameplay elements. Problem was, I could never find anyone to play with

Ended up selling all my Cards (over 500) to someone in Sweden via eBay...the game was apparently very popular there, or at least that's what I was told by the buyer.

Modifié par Deathwurm, 30 juillet 2011 - 11:34 .

[SOLID_EVEREST]

Seagloom wrote...

SOLID_EVEREST wrote...

I bet Steam is making a fortune from sales of Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines. I heard that the three main developers went their own way after the closure of Troika. From looking at the Wiki, neither of them looked to have any luck. I wish Tim Cain would've joined Obsidian, though.

Part of Troika's staff did join Obsidian Entertainment. One of the guys that a had a hand in Bloodlines later quit and opened DoubleBear Productions with another ex-Obsidian employee. A shame none of the big three ever met with any great success after Troika's disbanding.

What I found most puzzling about Troika's collapse was how poorly Bloodlines did commercially. If memory serves, it was their worst selling game. "The Temple of Elemental Evil" outsold it, I assume, because of the D&D license. That had to be it, as the game itself was notably buggier than Bloodlines ever was in my experience.

Well, I just read on Codex (yeah it pointed me towards that when I googled him) that Tim Cain just quit his position at Carbine Studios (if I remember the name correctly). I hope, hope he goes somewhere to make a single player RPG. Even if he joins up with Bethesda, I just want him to keep making games. DoubleBear, though, has that awesome sounding zombie RPG.

Anyways, I'm very surprised that Bloodlines recieved such low sales numbers, but I'm not so much because of how odd the gaming industry was/is. I've never played Temple of Elemental Evil, though.

[Chuvvy]

How does it run on Win 7?

[naughty99]

Slidell505 wrote...

How does it run on Win 7?

runs fine except I had the issues mentioned above for movement in 3rd person view and keybindings have to be reset every single time I play - very annoying.

but definitely worth $5, especially if you don't use NumPad

Modifié par naughty99, 30 juillet 2011 - 01:52 .

[lobi]

Ok installed the game downloaded unofficial patch VTMBup76 by wesp5 and disabled 'keep game updated and steam community in game and then installed the patch.
My Malkavian is Bat**** and says just the sweetest things. Just met Rodriegez and, he called me Lobi actually said it, clear as a bell! how many games will do that! This Game is great.

Modifié par lobi, 30 juillet 2011 - 02:49 .

[Cutlass Jack]

I think my favorite part of playing my female Malkavian was that she was continually figuring out the plot before it was revealed...if you could interpret what the hell she was going on about. Which is one of the other reasons its more fun as a second playthrough.

Also her dialogues with Jennette were adorable.

[Seagloom]

Indeed. Malkavians are genre savvy and have access to the script. The only bit a Malkavian PC gets wrong is identifying a certain character as the "Dark Father". Just goes to show how thoroughly said character has everyone fooled, though.

That said, fun as a Malkavian is, some of the vanilla dialogue for other clans is hilarious. The gaming references and female character specific dialogues alone were totally worth it. Also the snark. It still blows away anything I have seen in a game since.

[Trapper_920]

naughty99 wrote...

I just bought this game during the Steam sale and started playing it.

I really like it, love the story the characters and the abilities you get with various clans, but I'm having massive problems with the key bindings and movement for 3rd person camera that are preventing me from being able to play the game.

I use a NumPad, so I have to remap the keys for every game I play. However, every time I load a previously saved game, a lot of the key bindings change back to the default on me and I have to reset them every single time I load the game.

also as I always use 3rd person, sometimes the game gets stuck so that the character is facing the camera, and it's not possible to turn the PC around to walk forward. Essentially the game becomes unplayable at that point and I have to try to restart.

Also one more problem I keep having is that sometimes the walk/run toggle stops working, so that I'm only walking slowly everywhere and it's not possible to walk fast (ie., not possible to run). Again I have to restart the game to fix this.

Using Unofficial Patch 7.6b

Are you running Win 7 64bit?

You can try this but make a copy of this file before you change it.

If your on Win 7 your install folder is porbably here:

C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Steam\\steamapps\\common\\vampire the masquerade - bloodlines\\Vampire\\cfg

Make a backup of the "config" file to some place safe then open the config file in the "cfg" folder. Notpad should work but if you have something like Notepad++ I would use that instead. Look through that and try to edit your keybindings.

As for the glitching and getting stuck or reversed I don't know what to tell you. Are you running it in a compatability mode?

Side note I'm running with the the Hoxfix 4 from Tessmage.

[Trapper_920]

Continuing on that thought I wonder if you take out the "Unbindall" on line 1 if that would maybe fix your save issue when you change it in game. But I'm not programer to say what that might do. Just make sure you have a backup when ever you change a config file.

[Nizzemancer]

Seagloom wrote...

Indeed. Malkavians are genre savvy and have access to the script. The only bit a Malkavian PC gets wrong is identifying a certain character as the "Dark Father". Just goes to show how thoroughly said character has everyone fooled, though.

That said, fun as a Malkavian is, some of the vanilla dialogue for other clans is hilarious. The gaming references and female character specific dialogues alone were totally worth it. Also the snark. It still blows away anything I have seen in a game since.

I played the seduction-caste (I can't remember what their name was, they were one of the "nobler" castes) and then didn't feel like playing a second character once I finished but had my mind set on a malkavian on my second playthrough when I first installed the game (knew they were supposed to be able to foreshadow things so I didn't want to spoil my first playthrough.)

SPOILER:
Does the malkavian PC actually know about the "sisters" being the same person right away, and comment on it?

Modifié par Nizzemancer, 31 juillet 2011 - 02:45 .