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[DonDaMon]

I like them ...any one who doesn't like them has either been sheltered their entire lives, or they just don't understand the real world. What Humanity did to them is akin to what the White Man did to the natives of North America. The Batarians did what they thought suited them the best, and that was declaring Humanity public enemy number 1. Only downside about them is their slavery. Other than that Batarians deserve more of a chance to live than the parasitic Quarians who strip star system after system just to sustain their un important and un needed population that serve no major nor minor role in the galactic stage.

[Someone With Mass]

[Juha81FIN]

Batarians are no good slave traders and ruhtless - colonist shep will show no mercy for any batarian who comes across.

[C9316]

+1 for the Quarian thing bro, I agree with that but the ruthless way batarians capture and 'control' their slaves is just savage..

[Bogsnot1]

Batarians only exist to give you twice as much fun with a salad fork.

[IronSabbath88]

You know what would suck?

A lazy eyed Batarian. Try NOT to stare.

[General User]

"un important and un needed population"!?!

Ebenezer Scrooge, is that you?

[Arppis]

C'mon guys! Being a slaver is part of their culture! What happened to respecting other cultures and ways! :3

[TexasToast712]

 Or it could be they burned my home to the ground for roleplaying reasons. and because their heads look like a pile of excrement with eyes dropped on it for personal reasons.

[Blitzkrieg0811]

DonDaMon wrote...

What Humanity did to them is akin to what the White Man did to the natives of North America.

Sure... If the native Americans were greedy, colonialism-obsessed cutthroats who were only kept in check by some kind of International "Council"

[alex90c]

bleurgh, Batarians are ugly AND obnoxious :/

[Someone With Mass]

If the batarians hadn't been enslaving douchebags that killed Shepard's family and friends/attacked the largest human colony in the Skyllian Blitz, and were constantly whining about how it's all humanity's fault because we royally kicked their asses in the retaliation, I'd give them a chance.

Alas, it did happen.

[Kaiser Shepard]

Bogsnot1 wrote...

Batarians only exist to give you twice as much fun with a salad fork.

Brilliant! That is so sig-worthy!

[Pride Demon]

Well, usually I have to show the redeeming qualities of Batarians to people bashing them, this time it appears I'll have to show their negative side to people who are too apologetic...

DonDaMon wrote...

What Humanity did to them is akin to what the White Man did to the natives of North America.

Indeed and the Batarians immediately run to the Council for support, they however didn't seem to have any kind of problem doing the same thing to Asari colonies, as evidenced here...
The difference being humans settled zones that were not settled, of Batarian interest maybe, but not settled, Batarians stole a settled colony world and I don't want to think about what actually happened to the Asari there...

DonDaMon wrote...

The Batarians did what they thought suited them the best, and that was declaring Humanity public enemy number 1.

That doesn't excuse terrorism: they don't have to love us, in fact maybe they were wronged (who am I to judge?), but that doesn't excuse killing thousands of innocent civilians with raids and WMDs...

DonDaMon wrote...

Only downside about them is their slavery.

Aside from the fact that you make it sound as if it were nothing, while it's actually a big problem in and of itself (since they don't enslave just other Batarians, but other species too), there's actually the fact ehy biggest problem with Batarians is their attitude: it's very aggressive...
Aside from annexing other people colonies and engaging in a practice the Council openly bans (how did they manage to remain a Council species for 2000 years while practicing slavery is beyond me...), they seem to have a penchance for "showing off": in 1785 a Batarian fleet bombarded Mannovai from orbit apparently just because it could, and if you remember Kirrahe, Mannovai is one of the Salarian's oldest, most beloved and most important colonies...

DonDaMon wrote...

Other than that Batarians deserve more of a chance to live than the parasitic Quarians who strip star system after system just to sustain their un important and un needed population that serve no major nor minor role in the galactic stage.

This is your opinion and I'll respect it even if I do not agree...
I won't however elaborate further: discussing about Quarian rights is beyond the scope of this thread...

In short, one should try to be as unbiased as possible, Batarians do not deserve all the bashing they get, but it's not like they are saints either... Just my opinion...

[Jeth Prime]

What the heezy are you talking about?

[DonDaMon]

Pride Demon wrote...

Well, usually I have to show the redeeming qualities of Batarians to people bashing them, this time it appears I'll have to show their negative side to people who are too apologetic...

DonDaMon wrote...

What Humanity did to them is akin to what the White Man did to the natives of North America.

Indeed and the Batarians immediately run to the Council for support, they however didn't seem to have any kind of problem doing the same thing to Asari colonies, as evidenced here...
The difference being humans settled zones that were not settled, of Batarian interest maybe, but not settled, Batarians stole a settled colony world and I don't want to think about what actually happened to the Asari there...

DonDaMon wrote...

The Batarians did what they thought suited them the best, and that was declaring Humanity public enemy number 1.

That doesn't excuse terrorism: they don't have to love us, in fact maybe they were wronged (who am I to judge?), but that doesn't excuse killing thousands of innocent civilians with raids and WMDs...

DonDaMon wrote...

Only downside about them is their slavery.

Aside from the fact that you make it sound as if it were nothing, while it's actually a big problem in and of itself (since they don't enslave just other Batarians, but other species too), there's actually the fact ehy biggest problem with Batarians is their attitude: it's very aggressive...
Aside from annexing other people colonies and engaging in a practice the Council openly bans (how did they manage to remain a Council species for 2000 years while practicing slavery is beyond me...), they seem to have a penchance for "showing off": in 1785 a Batarian fleet bombarded Mannovai from orbit apparently just because it could, and if you remember Kirrahe, Mannovai is one of the Salarian's oldest, most beloved and most important colonies...

DonDaMon wrote...

Other than that Batarians deserve more of a chance to live than the parasitic Quarians who strip star system after system just to sustain their un important and un needed population that serve no major nor minor role in the galactic stage.

This is your opinion and I'll respect it even if I do not agree...
I won't however elaborate further: discussing about Quarian rights is beyond the scope of this thread...

In short, one should try to be as unbiased as possible, Batarians do not deserve all the bashing they get, but it's not like they are saints either... Just my opinion...

Good rebuttal, but i like them just because they are aggressive and don't care what others think of them, It can be argued that Humanity is just as aggresive as the Batarians.

[General User]

DonDaMon wrote...
It can be argued that Humanity is just as aggresive as the Batarians.

Do you intend to actually make that argument?  Or are you content with merely stating that it can be made?

[Bogsnot1]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Bogsnot1 wrote...

Batarians only exist to give you twice as much fun with a salad fork.

Brilliant! That is so sig-worthy!

Be my guest. 

[Porenferser]

Batarians are the best ME-Race (after the Geth) imO.
I would be really happy to have a batarian mate.

[CroGamer002]

Juha81FIN wrote...

Batarians are no good slave traders and ruhtless - colonist shep will show no mercy for any batarian who comes across.

That's strange, my Colonist Shepard's show mercy to Batarians.

[DonDaMon]

General User wrote...

DonDaMon wrote...
It can be argued that Humanity is just as aggresive as the Batarians.

Do you intend to actually make that argument?  Or are you content with merely stating that it can be made?

I thought it was blatantly obvious, Liara even said as much, and even the fact that we can have an all human council dominating the other species is proof enough. Humanity tries too hard at finding it's place in the galaxy because "they are eager to take" and when they aren't given what they want they go ahead and take it anyways.

[bobdooly]

Your bashing of Quarians is unneeded. They are basically banned from colonizing by the Council in Council space and they strip mine systems for resources because they have no other choice. They aren't just going to lay down and go extinct because it annoys people.

Back to the main point: Basically what Pride Demon said.

[bobdooly]

Sorry, double post (just ignore or delete maybe?)

Modifié par bobdooly, 29 juillet 2011 - 04:51 .

[Porenferser]

Bah, Quarians^^

Hey, thats another thing a Batarian would be good for:
Killing Quarians.

[General User]

DonDaMon wrote...

General User wrote...

DonDaMon wrote...
It can be argued that Humanity is just as aggresive as the Batarians.

Do you intend to actually make that argument?  Or are you content with merely stating that it can be made?

I thought it was blatantly obvious, Liara even said as much, and even the fact that we can have an all human council dominating the other species is proof enough. Humanity tries too hard at finding it's place in the galaxy because "they are eager to take" and when they aren't given what they want they go ahead and take it anyways.

Not all aggression is created equal. The Alliance seizing power following the Battle of the Citadel is not at all comparable with the batarians seizing slaves from defenseless settlements. The batarians routinely exhibit a degree of violence, pettiness, and cruelty that is wholly absent from all but the most aggressive of human nationalists.