[quote]Orkboy wrote...
Now you're just being a dick, saying I said stuff that I didn't and nitpicking for no reason.[/quote]
Yes, let's please derail this thread.
[quote]I never said that Liara had the same body type as Kaiden. I said they had the same bodytype as Shep.
- Liara with FemShep and Kaiden with ManShep.
I also never stated that Garrus, Tali, Wrex etc had the same anatomy as humans so I have no idea where you got that from.[/quote]
Uh, yes, you did. Yes you did.
"Although I don't reckon it should be limited - if Shep can wear it then everone should be able to."
It makes no sense to have a system that can't work with half of the squad and sacrifices all the personality or makes no sense for the rest.
[quote]As for Thane, are you seriously trying to tell me that if you stuck his head on ManSheps armour it would look out of place? What a load of balls. His anatomy is human enough that you could easily get away with it.[/quote]
No, drell bodies are longer and slimer, an N7 armor wouldn't fit because human bodies are shorter.
[quote]And how do you get that a modular armour system wouldn't work for half of the team? Sure you'd need extra pieces making for certain characters but to say that they couldn't use the same system is retarded. [/quote]
No, your statement makes no sense.
Quarians - Need a completely new armor, not even debating that.
Drell - Incompatible with torso and leg armor, you can only have the helmets reused.
Turians - Helmets, torso and leg armor absolutely incomapitble.
Salarians - ...
Krogan - The same.
Geth - Please.
You need new armor sets for every single quarian, drell, turian and krogan squadmate, not extra pieces. Jeez. You end up going with my suggestion for everyone but humans and asari, who will have to wear the N7 armor when it makes no sense for them to do so.
[quote]Fine, so they shouldn't wear standard N7 ( even though it's just onyx which everyone could buy and wear in ME1 ), but that doesn't preclude them from having the rest of it.[/quote]
What rest of it. Only humans and asari can wear some of these parts.
Oh wait.
No they can't. This is not ME1, every character has their unique body structure.
Vega can't wear, for example, Shepard's armor.
[quote]Calling it the N7 system in ME2 was just something Bioware used to differentiate it from the crappy limited team mate armour system and in my opinion was wrong on Biowares part, only Sheps beginning armour can actuallybe called N7 marine armour otherwise why were shops all over the galaxy selling armour parts? [/quote]
N7 what?
[quote]And what the hell does personality have to do with anything? I'm about to go into battle, do I have a **** fit that the armour isn't in the right colour, not wear it and get shot in the head? Or do I put it on and have the bullets bounce off? It's armour FFS who gives a flying fig what it looks like as long as it stops bullets?[/quote]
Uh, yes. if you didn't notice most people disliked the lack of unique armor for squadmates in ME1, let alone that what you propose is worse, since instead of generic armor everyone has to recycle Shepard's armor.
Uh-huh, so you need new armor sets for all of the species but two, a new one for Vega, but uh, sure the two squadmates that are left could actually wear Shepard's armor.
Basically repeating my idea, except for the VS and Liara, and sacrificing their unique style. Takes as much effort and has a far worse result.
[quote]Phaedon wrote...
[quote]Orkboy wrote...
Again, you put words into my mouth that I didn't say.
Where did I say they could wear human armour?[/quote]
You said Shepard's armor.
[quote]I'm not on about human armour FFS. I'm on about a modular armour system that allows for greater customisability.[/quote]
"Although I don't reckon it should be limited - if Shep can wear it then everone should be able to.
Still don't see how Bioware couldn't make this work, afterall most of the team mates are humanoid and can just use the same parts as Shepard."
'Kay.
[quote]If the system is human only then why the hell are alien shops selling it in systems lightyears away from the nearest human? Not to mention the fact that said shops
only seem to sell human armour. Bit of a gamble that a human looking for armour might happen past and just happens to want a new set of armour. Sorry but that's balls.[/quote]
You couldn't buy alien armor because you couldn't use it. And...lightyears away? You need to pay some attention to the codex, or at least the NPCs.
[quote]And what if they do have to make new parts to fit the non human bodyshaped races? Bioware are a big company with ****loads of people working for them, are you trying to say that between now and release they couldn't spare a couple of them to produce a few extra bits? Total crap.[/quote]
What few extra bits? You are creating from scratch every single character's armor set except for humans with the generic skeleton (Certainly not Miranda, Jack or Vega) and asari.
[quote]Fine have individuality in their casual onboard Normandy outfits, but in a battle where my life depends on my team mates surviving. I wan't them in proper fecking armour.[/quote]
Yeah, you won't be playing that card since it's absolutely irrelevant.
You have to recreate armor for everyone but for a couple of squadmates. And idividual style has nothing to do with proper armor.
[quote]Phaedon wrote...
Again, where did I say they could wear human armour and what the hell has it got to do with personality?[/quote]
Addressed already.
[quote]Are you trying to say that Grunt wouldn't be Grunt if he covered his arms and neck? Or that Jack wouldn't be Jack if she wore something other than a g-string a a couple of shoe laces? Don't talk crap. [/quote]
As crap as you want it to be, some people prefer not having generic henchmen which you can't recognize, and guess what, "combat outfits" are used in 80% of the game.
And get the "catsuit" and "gstring" BS out of this thread, plase.
[quote]I have several friends who are in the army that are true characters when you get to know them, and although when on leave they dress how they want to. when they're back on base they have to wear what the army regulations say they have to wear. Being in uniform doesn't stop them being who they are or stop them acting how they act.
ME1 managed to do it just fine.
And in fact i'd say that the characters in ME1 showed more personality than those in ME2.[/quote]
By using generic outfits. Right.
Anyway, other than Vega or the VS no one actually serves in the military, so that argument doesn't stand either.
[quote]All they have to do is give team mates their banter back.[/quote]
Which was never gone in ME2, even though it hardly existed in either games.
[quote]So again I say, why can't the team mates utilise a modular system? It's NOT human exclusive, just that some of the team mates can use human armour parts. - Just like some of them could in ME1.[/quote]
Last time I checked, this was a modular system.
And your original proposal IS human exclusive, in fact, even worse, it doesn't apply to most human characters from ME2 or 3.
You were not suggesting (simply) a modular system in the first place, this IS the modular system for all squadmates. You explicitly stated that they should share the parts that Shepard wears, when it is very debatable that a single character can do that.
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