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#101
Edan Vortan

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I would love to be able to set all the armor the same color, even if there is pattern differences.


tali would present some problems, but you can add things like the off arm ammo pouches and leg ammo pouch options. Just orient them more towards her tech abilities. but she would be the most limited character in this area. I still think it's a great idea,

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Phaedon wrote...

I think that one of the biggest problems some of us had with ME2, was the lack of much squad armor customization. Going back to ME1's system is practically impossible, considering that the races of the squadmates are much more diverse, not to mention that ME1's system lacks any personality whatsoever.

Personally, I think that applying ME2's Shepard Armor Customization system (slightly altered of course), for all squadmates would solve the problem and be a great addition.

Squadmates and Armour


  • Every main squadmate can unlock up to three different sets of armor during the game.
  • Temporary squadmates that come along for only one mission have no customization
  • Temporary squadmates that remain in your party for a few missions only have one armor set
  •  Every armor set (just like the N7 one and the Kestrel set) break up to parts the pattern and color of which is customizable.
  • Armor sets have different stats, that are made of the stats of their parts.
  • Parts from different sets can be used together, making up custom sets.

Options

Type: Types don't work like they do in ME2. Instead of seperating sets from each other, they are just used to set all the parts to the default three choices. When you change a part, the type will change to "Custom".
Helmet,Torso,Legs.
Pattern: Patterns can be researched or earned as loot and apply to all armor sets of a character. That way their personality is retained.
Pattern Color,Material, Tint 1,Tint 2.


Here you go, have a terrible concept at thee:

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Picture isn't bad, beautifally illustrates the proof of concept.  I like the idea, it makes Mass Effect more of an RPG.  It should be implemented but I hope that the clothes go together.  Would be a lot of work though.  What about Squad mates getting casual wear?  Two outfit options?  I figure Shepard isn't the only one who doesn't walk around in full armor all the time.

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RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

Do Not Want.

I want to customize my Shepard. Everyone else can just have their own armor. This doesn't seem any different than picking greaves and pauldrons. I'd rather each companion have a role they're good at, than be given the ability to shoehorn them into a role they'll be B-team at.

Waste of time for BioWare to hammer this into a game that doesn't need it. They should just refine ME2's system, it's damn near perfect. No need to backslide.

This... no reason to go backwards in this case.  Any time-consuming endeavors should be left for customizing Shepard's armor and weapons, and possibly the Normandy.  Give us more alternate outfits (not dlc)... fine.  Add statistics or properties of some sort to the alternate outfits... fine.  Have me go through each limb of every party member to decide what is optimal armor config is a timesink and huge detraction from the game.  The extent of Shepard's involvement in what squadmates wear should be minimal.

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Oh and just for the sake of contributing something to the thread other than advice to others, you two DO realise that every spaceflight species is humanoid ?(Aside from that one Biotic God cutscene we haven't seen Volus, Hanar or Elcor fight ........- as much as we want them to)
Batarians originally were meant to be much different and have ears (similar to Lombaxes from Ratchet and Clank) but they were scaled down to fit on a human skeleton.

Last time I checked Batarians, Humans and Asari can all wear the same stuff, I know the argument of, say, Liara being different to kaidan but then compare her outline to Ashley, Kasumi or Miranda and aside from a few details the general outline is the same.

All of the other species are unique unless I've missed any and Last time I checked Thane was roughly the same size and height as my Shepard though I'll get back to you on that Phaedon.

Drell have slimer and longer bodies. Anyway, I did say that that would only be correct if you go with the scientific definition of humanoid, because these species are not human-like at all. Krogan, turians, drell, salarians, etc. wouldn't be able to wear those outfits.

And even so, not even humans and asari have the same body types.




Kabanya101 wrote...

To Phaedon:

I concieved this same idea about one-two months ago on another thread about aromor/customization of squad mates.

Except mine was slightly different. My idea was that each character had 5 outfits, two for the ship, and three for armor.

Shepard had like six outfits to wear on the ship, so the squadmates would have two. One to show off their individual personalities, like in ME2 before loyalty quests, and another that could be customized, colors, designs, ect.

Then for the armor, I had the same thing were they would get three suits of armor that would break up and swap with each other. But it would be sort of like ME1, where one would be a light, medium, a heavy armor plating outfit. Remind you, that heavy armor plating for someone like Tali, wouldn't be like the Colossal armor, just her basic suit, but with thicker chest, arm, and leg plating. And yes, you would be able to customize it, just like Shepard's in ME2.

Each piece of the armor would add up into individual stats/bonuses. And they would be:
Movement: How fast to move through cover
Protection: The amount of damage taken to health
Shield/Biotic strength: How strong shields are
Power Strength: Increase power damage
Power Recharge: How fast powers recharge
Weapon Damage: Increase in weapon damage

My system is slightly different and more in depth, but mostly the same as yours. You could always try to propose the customization system to Bioware, or see if one of the Moderators could talk to some of the developers about it, I bet they have connections. Because either one of our ideas would be great. Or at least I would think so.

It's an interesting proposition.

I would gladly add your quote to the OP if it's all right for you.

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Nice thread.I would love this but i doubt it will happen.

#106
RyuGuitarFreak

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Yes. That's the kind of idea I wished they would implement too.

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Great idea, would love to see an added column for accessories as well. Backpacks, ammunition, belts the whole lot. Though, there is a risk the choices will be too many, lol.

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Three cheers for this threas not getting derailed! Hip Hip!...

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Kabanya101 wrote...

To Phaedon:

I concieved this same idea about one-two months ago on another thread about aromor/customization of squad mates.

Except mine was slightly different. My idea was that each character had 5 outfits, two for the ship, and three for armor.

Shepard had like six outfits to wear on the ship, so the squadmates would have two. One to show off their individual personalities, like in ME2 before loyalty quests, and another that could be customized, colors, designs, ect.

Then for the armor, I had the same thing were they would get three suits of armor that would break up and swap with each other. But it would be sort of like ME1, where one would be a light, medium, a heavy armor plating outfit. Remind you, that heavy armor plating for someone like Tali, wouldn't be like the Colossal armor, just her basic suit, but with thicker chest, arm, and leg plating. And yes, you would be able to customize it, just like Shepard's in ME2.

Each piece of the armor would add up into individual stats/bonuses. And they would be:
Movement: How fast to move through cover
Protection: The amount of damage taken to health
Shield/Biotic strength: How strong shields are
Power Strength: Increase power damage
Power Recharge: How fast powers recharge
Weapon Damage: Increase in weapon damage

My system is slightly different and more in depth, but mostly the same as yours. You could always try to propose the customization system to Bioware, or see if one of the Moderators could talk to some of the developers about it, I bet they have connections. Because either one of our ideas would be great. Or at least I would think so.

Oh , I remember that thread! I followed it for a couple of days but then people stopped responding(so did I), that must be why I'm getting de ja vu reading through this thread:P

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Sounds great. I like the Idea, though it would be another task for Bioware. The Diversity of appearance and statistics for Squad mates would definitely be a great addition to an already Great Game. ;)

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That's at least something, though i'd set ME1 system superiour. Ok, devs decided to wipe it out, let's be so. But customization imho should just be before the mission, like suiting up. Because running across the Normandy just to replace you shoulders was depressing.

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I am all for this idea, but my concern is that Bioware has no plan for doing this. If Bioware is planning on implementing this idea then why are we getting alternate appearances for some of our squadmates? If armor customization is going to happen then there is no need for the alternate appearances because we can just change the colors on our own.

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Phaedon wrote...


Squadmates and Armour


  • Every main squadmate can unlock up to three different sets of armor during the game.
  • Temporary squadmates that come along for only one mission have no customization
  • Temporary squadmates that remain in your party for a few missions only have one armor set
  •  Every armor set (just like the N7 one and the Kestrel set) break up to parts the pattern and color of which is customizable.
  • Armor sets have different stats, that are made of the stats of their parts.
  • Parts from different sets can be used together, making up custom sets.


This part sounds good. But I would like them to be parts like shep's was in 2 so I can mix and match how they look. I would also like armor for my squadmates to be really original and unique from the one they start the game with. For instance in ME Tali's purple suit only got recolored so her phoenix one was the same suit but only in red and white which I hated. I would rather her suit change completely the pattern used and some wouldn't even have the wrapping fabric others might have a new wrap fabric moving around it. I want them to be very different from one another and I'd like to choose my own colors on them so if I want everyone to be orange and black I could have that choice or keep them their original colors. If shep is going to have patterns I want my squad to also have patterns as well.

Modifié par Destroy Raiden , 31 juillet 2011 - 06:58 .


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it's ok as far as customisation goes, but outfits don't need stats - that just punishes those who liked the me2-style individual outfits rather than bulky armour-sets. you've got stats back on weapons/mods, don't need it everywhere.

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I think that's a Great idea Phaedon. I would like at the VERY LEAST 2 or 3 extra alternate appearances like ME2 that you DON'T have to BUY!! of course custom armor pieces and colors are better LOL ;-)

Modifié par AcidRelic, 31 juillet 2011 - 07:16 .


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I strongly support squad armor customization! The lack of it in ME2 made MadMapper sad.

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I like the idea and it would be a good addition to ME3. I personally disliked the single costume/recolouration design in ME2, and I liked the way ME1 had an actual armoured spacesuit for each character - this made more sense to me in a setting where your character and their party could end up being put into space.

I can see some problems with the system as suggested by the OP though. One being that if you broke a costume down into slots (chest, lower and upper arms, shoulders, thighs, shins, etc.) you would then need to ensure that all pieces for all costumes fit together without clipping - this could conceivably end up with all pieces looking rather generic, similarly shaped and so on.

Personally, I would be happy with non-combat apparel worn in safe locations such as the Normandy or the Citadel, and a combat spacesuit option that comes with a toggled space helmet.

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Phaedon wrote...

I think that one of the biggest problems some of us had with ME2, was the lack of much squad armor customization.


Or lack of armor period. Besides Shepard, Garrus and Tali were the only two squadies to have fully sealed anything. At least Grunt and Zaeed wore actual armor but they still had exposed skin. Everyone else literally wore cloth, or latex, or nipple straps.

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Leaser Resael

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I made a ME3 version of the same image Phadeon posted, using ME3 style menues:
http://i262.photobuc...Project-ME3.jpg
Something like that would be awesome!

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Phaedon

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Updated with a new great image by Leaser Resael!

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I just hope there's quite some choice in armors/outfits per person. They don't necessarily have to be modular imo, although it would definitely be a nice addition.

Modifié par CannotCompute, 31 juillet 2011 - 09:09 .


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Leaser Resael

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Thanks Phaedon! The link I posted before is a new version, I added a vertical slider next to the horizontal ones.

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Leaser Resael wrote...

Thanks Phaedon! The link I posted before is a new version, I added a vertical slider next to the horizontal ones.

Updated again, then. ;)

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i would have to say i support this in some way shape or form bioware take notes this is golden

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+1