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From the GTTV episode last night:

"And there's something between them and Cerberus, the organization that The Illusive Man runs.  That's part of what you need to figure out is: why does Cerberus almost appear to be working with the Reapers?"

That bolded part is interesting. Far more ambiguous than the straightforward, declarative "Cerberus is now working for the Reapers in ME3" type stuff we've gotten from other sources so far. 

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As most suspected: Martin is simply playing his cards in attempt to come out on top.

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hmm, maybe the Cerberus and reapers only prepare the storyline for ME4?

If we think of the first three ME games as a prequel, a possible greater enemy (bigger than reapers) glooming over us in secret would explain a possible cause for Cerberus making even more absurdities, and why the reapers need to harvers intelligent species every 50.00 years, perhaps they use the "fuel" they get as supply for their bigger war against these unknown demigods.

Modifié par joriandrake, 29 juillet 2011 - 11:23 .


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Mac Walters essentially confirmed that TIM is acting alone in that other interview, so that's not that surprising.

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joriandrake wrote...

hmm, maybe the Cerberus and reapers only prepare the storyline for ME4?

If we think of the first three ME games as a prequel, a possible greater enemy (bigger than reapers) glooming over us in secret would explain a possible cause for Cerberus making even more absurdities, and why the reapers need to harvers intelligent species every 50.00 years, perhaps they use the "fuel" they get as supply for their bigger war against these unknown demigods.


that would be too much,although awesomely interesting in fighting demigods but way too much

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But what are we going to complain about now?

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Phaedon wrote...

Mac Walters essentially confirmed that TIM is acting alone in that other interview, so that's not that surprising.


Wait,what? what interview?

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Then why the hell are they attacking Shepard? If anything, they should help Shep get rid of those ugly husk things.

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These are great news, i would hate a character like TIM to be just a pawn (indoctrinated) of the Reapers. I like that the guy has a mind of his own, he is shaping up to be a great villain for ME3.

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aridor1570 wrote...

Phaedon wrote...

Mac Walters essentially confirmed that TIM is acting alone in that other interview, so that's not that surprising.


Wait,what? what interview?


social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/323/index/7976611

It's a great inteview, more people should read it.

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joriandrake wrote...

hmm, maybe the Cerberus and reapers only prepare the storyline for ME4?

If we think of the first three ME games as a prequel, a possible greater enemy (bigger than reapers) glooming over us in secret would explain a possible cause for Cerberus making even more absurdities, and why the reapers need to harvers intelligent species every 50.00 years, perhaps they use the "fuel" they get as supply for their bigger war against these unknown demigods.

There is no ME4. Whenever there is another Mass Effect game the title shouldn't even be followed by a numerical value. A subtitle would work though so it appears seperate from the Mass Effect trilogy.

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Someone With Mass wrote...

Then why the hell are they attacking Shepard? If anything, they should help Shep get rid of those ugly husk things.



I think that falls under the whole "appear to be" thing.  Kinda hard to keep up that appearance if you just behave like an enemy and start shooting the husks or whatever.

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Eh, not sure what to say. I prefer the idea that Cerberus isn't simply indoctrinated, but in the end I'd be happy so long as they managed an interesting story out of it.

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jreezy wrote...

joriandrake wrote...

hmm, maybe the Cerberus and reapers only prepare the storyline for ME4?

If we think of the first three ME games as a prequel, a possible greater enemy (bigger than reapers) glooming over us in secret would explain a possible cause for Cerberus making even more absurdities, and why the reapers need to harvers intelligent species every 50.00 years, perhaps they use the "fuel" they get as supply for their bigger war against these unknown demigods.

There is no ME4. Whenever there is another Mass Effect game the title shouldn't even be followed by a numerical value. A subtitle would work though so it appears seperate from the Mass Effect trilogy.


I would say the same about Dragon Age 2 or Fallout 3 or HoMM 4 for various reasons


However, even as the story of one person ends doesn't mean ME4+ won't happen, it may have a subtitle or not, but I am pretty sure it stays numerical

for me the real reason to rename a game or use a subtitle would be changing the game world, the gameplay (as in case of Fallout 3 from previous games), or clearly the genre, Bioware used too much cash on making the name Mass Effect well known to just ignore it  and forfeit tzhe use of Mass Effect 4

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Who said this is just a trilogy? It may not be ME 4, but it may be ME: something. I think the series is too successful to call it quits after three installments.

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It's still not clear. On Sur'Kesh, Shepard claims that the mercs are indoctrinated. I'm glad that we still don't know what's going on.

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Oh, BTW, linkage to the interview:



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it is a trilogy, a trilogy of Shepard's story, but it is also a seperate and new sci-fi galaxy, just because Luke isn't in all of the stories they didn't change the name of Star Wars either. But as said earlier, I can see an use of additional subtitles, just not the lack of numerical.

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didymos1120 wrote...

I think that falls under the whole "appear to be" thing.  Kinda hard to keep up that appearance if you just behave like an enemy and start shooting the husks or whatever.


Yeah, but calling in storm troopers with riot shields and 15 feet tall mechs with rocket launchers is a little overkill.

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Someone With Mass wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

I think that falls under the whole "appear to be" thing.  Kinda hard to keep up that appearance if you just behave like an enemy and start shooting the husks or whatever.


Yeah, but calling in storm troopers with riot shields and 15 feet tall mechs with rocket launchers is a little overkill.


You assume TIM actually thinks Shep has a realistic shot of achieving anything and cares whether or not Shep lives.  It all depends on what TIM's specific goals are.  Besides, it's not like TIM is exactly unwilling to take losses.

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Indoctrinated? Almost working with sounds like that. On a more strange bit of information I gathered from EDI:

The Illusive Man has (at the time EDI was unshackled) 150 agents and at any given time he has 12 cells he works with for specific missions (he likes to have control over many aspects and any more cells mess him up). The Illusive Man gets funding from organizations he's created as well as private investors to the sum billions of credits. Shepard is in a cell named the Lazarus cell, Miranda is the head of that cell.

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Kaiser Shepard wrote...

As most suspected: Martin is simply playing his cards in attempt to come out on top.

Who the F$CK is Martin?

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Kaiser Shepard wrote...

As most suspected: Martin is simply playing his cards in attempt to come out on top.


WHO THE **** IS MARTIN?!

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sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Who said this is just a trilogy? It may not be ME 4, but it may be ME: something. I think the series is too successful to call it quits after three installments.

Mass Effect was envisioned as a trilogy. I didn't change it in my post but I meant to say that they shouldn't add a number to seperate it from the 3 main Mass Effect games. The main Mass Effect series is supposed to end at three otherwise the "envisioned as a trilogy" nonsense is a lie.

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I would not put too much meaning in this. Remember his ramble about adept powers?.....he is awesome......just I'm not sure he is comfortable with giving interviews like that