Gaider, Laidlaw et al! Who is Stroud in relation to the Wardens? Will he play a larger role? Janeka's comments imply that he is a Commander of the Grey, but is there more to him?
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Posté 30 juillet 2011 - 12:00
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I thought perhaps he was Riordan and Hubert's remaining triplet, although I could be wrong.
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Posté 30 juillet 2011 - 12:00
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Stroud is a high ranking member in the Grey Wardens who you meet in Act 2 of Dragon Age 2. That is the one Janeka and Larius comment about.
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Posté 30 juillet 2011 - 12:27
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Realmzmaster wrote...
Stroud is a high ranking member in the Grey Wardens who you meet in Act 2 of Dragon Age 2. That is the one Janeka and Larius comment about.
Yes, I know. What I meant was what is his rank exactly? Will he have a larger role in future DLC or games?
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Posté 30 juillet 2011 - 12:43
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Do grey wardens even have a rank and file beyond "warden" and "warden commander" for a region?
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Posté 30 juillet 2011 - 01:02
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To my understanding, it goes (from lowest ot highest):Yrkoon wrote...
Do grey wardens even have a rank and file beyond "warden" and "warden commander" for a region?
Grey Warden
Senior Grey Warden
Commander of the Grey (a.k.a Warden-Commander)
First Warden (overall leader, seated at Weisshaput, Anderfels)
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Posté 30 juillet 2011 - 01:07
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I'm going to go out on a limb and guess Stroud is the Warden-Commander of the Free Marches?
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Posté 30 juillet 2011 - 01:15
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Stroud has the mustache power, he's really Magnum P.I 
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Posté 30 juillet 2011 - 01:19
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harkness72 wrote...
Gaider, Laidlaw et al! Who is Stroud in relation to the Wardens? Will he play a larger role? Janeka's comments imply that he is a Commander of the Grey, but is there more to him?
Define "larger role"? If he does make an appearance in the future do you really want that spoiled for you now or for others who stumble across this thread? Or even worse have his role blown way out of proportion by having a dev answer YES and have all of BSN flooded with wild "Stroud is this..." threads when it may or may not be that much of a big deal? I think you should have also posted this in the Campaign and Story forums. Not everyone will have played Legacy or may or may not have met Stroud yet in their playthrough in the main game.
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Posté 30 juillet 2011 - 07:01
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Bobad wrote...
I thought perhaps he was Riordan and Hubert's remaining triplet, although I could be wrong.
All voiced by the same guy.
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Posté 30 juillet 2011 - 07:27
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jollyorigins wrote...
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess Stroud is the Warden-Commander of the Free Marches?
I agree with this.
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Posté 30 juillet 2011 - 01:38
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Xerxes52 wrote...
jollyorigins wrote...
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess Stroud is the Warden-Commander of the Free Marches?
I agree with this.
Would the Wardens apoint a Free Marches Commander? It isn't a nation for one. Bethany/Carver mentions a Warden stronghold at Ansburg, so that's a possibility.
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Posté 30 juillet 2011 - 01:45
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he might also be somewhere between a senior warden and commander of the grey, he doesn't seem the type for a big leader, for me he just seems like a task force commander, put in charge of a mission by someone else.
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Posté 31 juillet 2011 - 08:24
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harkness72 wrote...
Would the Wardens apoint a Free Marches Commander? It isn't a nation for one. Bethany/Carver mentions a Warden stronghold at Ansburg, so that's a possibility.
If a stronghold was built in the Free Marches (let's say for example; a couple hundred years ago) I don't think the current leaders would mind.It's widely understood that the Warden's try not to get involved with civil wars.Their main goal is to defeat the blight at all costs.They pose no threat.
Maybe there are alot of good places to conceal a base in the Free Marches and this is why it was chosen?
I think it comes down to what the First Commander thinks.
There's also an informal pecking order between Grey Warden and Senior Grey Warden, which is based on seniority at the time of the joining.This also plays a role in determining who is next to be promoted.For example:harkness72 wrote...
To my understanding, it goes (from lowest ot highest):Yrkoon wrote...
Do grey wardens even have a rank and file beyond "warden" and "warden commander" for a region?
Grey Warden
Senior Grey Warden
Commander of the Grey (a.k.a Warden-Commander)
First Warden (overall leader, seated at Weisshaput, Anderfels)
Duncan>Alistair>Your Warden (of course this changes if you played Awakening and became Warden Commander)
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Posté 31 juillet 2011 - 08:36
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harkness72 wrote...
Would the Wardens apoint a Free Marches Commander? It isn't a nation for one. Bethany/Carver mentions a Warden stronghold at Ansburg, so that's a possibility.
It's probably the same thing with Grand Cleric Elthina - she is in charge (as such) of all the chantries in the Free Marches, apart from any Tevinter ones around (unless I am mistaken, wouldn't be the first time).
We know the Wardens have no -official- base in Kirkwall, however, there is the prison in the mountains and the stronghold. It's probably safe to assume there'll be some form of regional commander.
xantanos wrote...
he might also be somewhere between a
senior warden and commander of the grey, he doesn't seem the type for a
big leader, for me he just seems like a task force commander, put in
charge of a mission by someone else.
Got that impression, myself. A lieutenant, perhaps?
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Posté 07 août 2011 - 04:39
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On my 7th playthrough, Stroud says to Anders that if he takes Hawke's sibling, him and Anders will be "even". What do you think that means?
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Posté 07 août 2011 - 05:49
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I think he meant "even" for not hauling Anders back into the Wardens.
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Posté 07 août 2011 - 07:02
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outlaworacle wrote...
I think he meant "even" for not hauling Anders back into the Wardens.
He told Anders that taking in Bethany will make them even. So that means he owed Anders a favor from before. It can't be for not hauling in Anders, because that means that Stroud would be 2 up on Anders.
So the question is - why does he owe Anders
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Posté 08 août 2011 - 01:54
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rak72 wrote...
outlaworacle wrote...
I think he meant "even" for not hauling Anders back into the Wardens.
He told Anders that taking in Bethany will make them even. So that means he owed Anders a favor from before. It can't be for not hauling in Anders, because that means that Stroud would be 2 up on Anders.
So the question is - why does he owe Anders
Exactly.
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Posté 08 août 2011 - 07:07
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rak72 wrote...
outlaworacle wrote...
I think he meant "even" for not hauling Anders back into the Wardens.
He told Anders that taking in Bethany will make them even. So that means he owed Anders a favor from before. It can't be for not hauling in Anders, because that means that Stroud would be 2 up on Anders.
So the question is - why does he owe Anders
Anders healed an embarassing rash he had
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Posté 08 août 2011 - 07:10
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harkness72 wrote...
Gaider, Laidlaw et al! Who is Stroud in relation to the Wardens? Will he play a larger role? Janeka's comments imply that he is a Commander of the Grey, but is there more to him?
What more do you want other than his glorious mustache?
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Posté 08 août 2011 - 07:12
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That moustache was made from Ser Pounce-A-Lot. Hence why Stroud owed him big time.
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Posté 08 août 2011 - 07:44
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It seems unlikely that they wouldn't, given that the Free Marches figured big in the Second, Third, and Fourth Blights; the Second Blight was ended in a colossal battle at Starkhaven and the Fourth was settled in Rivain near Ayesleigh by a united army of Free Marchers and Wardens, led by the elven Warden Garahel.harkness72 wrote...
Would the Wardens apoint a Free Marches Commander? It isn't a nation for one. Bethany/Carver mentions a Warden stronghold at Ansburg, so that's a possibility.
Indeed, the lack of political centralization in the Marches might make a strong Warden presence more necessary, since it would be unlikely for the Marchers to unite against the darkspawn on their own initiative. It's the same reason that the templars were so powerful in the region (and the same reason the Wardens exercise so much authority in the Anderfels) - with weak-to-nonexistent central authority, other groups had the space to exert greater power than they would have otherwise.
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Posté 08 août 2011 - 07:15
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daqs wrote...
It seems unlikely that they wouldn't, given that the Free Marches figured big in the Second, Third, and Fourth Blights; the Second Blight was ended in a colossal battle at Starkhaven and the Fourth was settled in Rivain near Ayesleigh by a united army of Free Marchers and Wardens, led by the elven Warden Garahel.harkness72 wrote...
Would the Wardens apoint a Free Marches Commander? It isn't a nation for one. Bethany/Carver mentions a Warden stronghold at Ansburg, so that's a possibility.
Indeed, the lack of political centralization in the Marches might make a strong Warden presence more necessary, since it would be unlikely for the Marchers to unite against the darkspawn on their own initiative. It's the same reason that the templars were so powerful in the region (and the same reason the Wardens exercise so much authority in the Anderfels) - with weak-to-nonexistent central authority, other groups had the space to exert greater power than they would have otherwise.
I agree, however i do not think they have that big a presence in the Marchers, just because the templars are so powerful. And in the Anderfels its more like the Wardens just took charge, they dont seem to have big authorities at all in Anderfels. The marches do, both Kirkwall and Starkhaven seem be major players, if extremly corrupt. So i would think the wardens have the same issue in the Marches as they had in Fereldan. problems with numbers, and thus, not too strong.
The wardens do go with the"strength in skill rather than numbers" theme after all
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Posté 08 août 2011 - 10:36
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xantanos wrote...
I agree, however i do not think they have that big a presence in the Marchers, just because the templars are so powerful. And in the Anderfels its more like the Wardens just took charge, they dont seem to have big authorities at all in Anderfels. The marches do, both Kirkwall and Starkhaven seem be major players, if extremly corrupt. So i would think the wardens have the same issue in the Marches as they had in Fereldan. problems with numbers, and thus, not too strong.
The wardens do go with the"strength in skill rather than numbers" theme after all
I got the impression that the reason the Wardens were weak in Ferelden was because they had just been allowed to return 20 years ago and thus had not had the time necessary to rebuild their numbers. It's entirely possible that there are a lot of Wardens in the Free Marches, especially as they must be revered quite a bit more there due to the Free Marches' prominence in the Blights as mentioned above, which makes recruiting easier.
