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[xXljoshlXx]

Saphra Deden wrote...

xXljoshlXx wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Isn't he thinking about the future cycles and future species?

Who cares about future cycles and future species, especialy if it is at the expense of our own?

Wait weren't you one calling people selfish you were prolly looking in a mirror or something.

Loyalty to a non-human animals is not a virtue.

Virtue or not it is selfish

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

Lol saphra

"Who cares about future lives"

"You should really think about future lives"



Also,I missed the 100th page

Modifié par Humanoid_Typhoon, 15 août 2011 - 05:07 .

[SalsaDMA]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

What research? I'd like to see those research papaers.

And one more note - more brain activity doesnt' mean you're making a better decision.

Eh...yes, it does.

If you have more brain activity and can think about all the outcomes and take all the facts and possibilities into account, you'll make better decisions.

No, no it doesn't. You know specific parts of hte brain do specific stuff.

I cna think of how to solve the puzzle and at the same time imagine naked chicks - my brain activity will be higher than if I just work on he puzzle. .. yet I'm willing to bet it won't help me solve the puzzle faster...if anything, ti will hurt my attempts.

That just reminded me of the kid I saw in some show years ago on a tvshow. There were researchers all over him because he computed math not by using his rationale but saw them somehow as patterns that changed shape and then just stated what the changed shape had for a number and usually arrived at the right number.
They could eventually 'trick' him by changing the shape and size of numbers shown to him, but the errors he did when they did these tricks were consistent too.

I can't for the earth of it remember the title of the show or the name of the kid, though.

[SalsaDMA]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Isn't he thinking about the future cycles and future species?

Who cares about future cycles and future species, especialy if it is at the expense of our own?

You know... For someone claiming to be brave, this sounds awfully like a coward

[Xilizhra]

Why do you believe I'm misguided for having my favor lie slightly with the asari? Am I not just playing by your rules after adapting myself into a new culture?

[ddv.rsa]

Saphra Deden wrote...

It's not cowardice, it's bravery. It was a tough pill to swallow, but I had to do it. I had to sit down and look at the situation and find the best plausible outcome. Surrender is that outcome.

You sound like some fanatic doomsday preacher. I wish I could find a vid of that Chasind outside the Lothering Chantry... that's what you're acting like. 

[SalsaDMA]

Saphra Deden wrote...

SalsaDMA wrote...

You know... For someone claiming to be brave, this sounds awfully like a coward

I'd say it's callous, not cowardly.

So being more concerned about yourself than others is callous?

That's not what my dictionary says...

[Sundance31us]

The Reapers want to have their way with all sapient life in the universe and Saphra Deden says everyone who doesn't lay back and let them do it is selfish, illogical and a coward. I'm not buying that apple. <_<

[Longsword-83]

Saphra Deden wrote...

SalsaDMA wrote...

You know... For someone claiming to be brave, this sounds awfully like a coward

I'd say it's callous, not cowardly.

You strike me as someone who's afraid to die. Someone who, in giving yourself over to the Reapers and knowing FULL WELL what they will do, has just the slightest bit of hope that your "selfless sacrifice" will mean something and you'll live on.

You poor creature. I'd offer sympathy, but I doubt you'd want it.

[Xilizhra]

Saphra, I redirect you to my previous question.

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

I am prepared to meet my Maker. Whether my Maker is prepared for the great ordeal of meeting me is another matter.

[Lotion Soronarr]

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Sisterofshane wrote...

And moral high ground has nothing to do with it.  There is nothing to debate with someone who refuses to believe they are wrong.  I am open to other's way of thinking, and can be swayed by logical arguments, at which point I do not accept that to be "failure" on my part, but rather open myself to be more informed and prepared for the next debate.  That is the nature and reason of debate.

Otherwise it just sounds like Daffy Duck and Bugs Bunny going "Yes", "No", "Yes", "No" back and forth.  It's about as much fun to participate in as it is to read, and serves no purpose other then to make the offenders look like three-year olds on the playground.

What I find funny is that EVERYONE claims this.
Everyone claims they are open to reasonable debate... except they're not really.

Shut up lotion...seriously you have long since shown you have no idea what you're talking about,you can't even fathom anybodies ideas but your own,and cry and scream when people disagreee with you,why dont you and saphra go to the corner and see who can put their fingers in there ears and scream louder.


Reasonable debate is accepting BOTH sides of the argument as plausable,but disagreeing with the other,not saying the other is wrong no matter what,so keep ignoring everyone and popping in and injecting your " Wow I am so awesum,I can throw out buzzwords and I think I am sooooo cool." you haven't said anything intelligent in quite some time.

You're trolling is irritating as Harbringers stupid rants.

If there's anyone here who's denser than uranium, that would be you. Not only have you show to be uncapable of understanding what the discussion is about in the first place, but you think that a constant barrage of accusals aimed at me somehow magicly makes you right?
The only thing you're constantly doing here is whine and whine,

The last person in the entire universe to be telling me about reason would be you.
So shut your piehole already..nothing good comes out of it anyway.

[Lotion Soronarr]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Reasonable debate is accepting BOTH sides of the argument as plausable,but disagreeing

No, it isn't. You don't have to accept an argument as plausible/reasonable if it is not plausible/reasonable.

Shh...don't tell H_T that.
It might cause an aunerism when he/she tries to figure it out...

[Xilizhra]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Why do you believe I'm misguided for having my favor lie slightly with the asari?

It indicates a lack of any desire for procreation and self-preservation. These are essential traits which allowed humanity to survive. Organisms which don't have them die out.

The way the whole melding thing works is that part of me will live on in Liara (unless by some wacky chance it's Samara), and some of those traits will I think in turn be passed down to our daughters. I believe it still counts.

[SalsaDMA]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Why do you believe I'm misguided for having my favor lie slightly with the asari?

It indicates a lack of any desire for procreation and self-preservation. These are essential traits which allowed humanity to survive. Organisms which don't have them die out.

Technically speaking, you loose those things if you get jellied into a reaper, you know...

[Longsword-83]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Why do you believe I'm misguided for having my favor lie slightly with the asari?

It indicates a lack of any desire for procreation and self-preservation. These are essential traits which allowed humanity to survive. Organisms which don't have them die out.

Wait, he doesn't want to continue the legacy of humanity just because he treats the asari as equals?

I don't think that's how it works.

[Lotion Soronarr]

SalsaDMA wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...
Asking a person to stop being emotional is like asking Cerberus to stop being a colossal failure. It's not going to happen soon.

Asking a person to not have emotions is futile. Asking a person to not act on their emotions without added reflection, however, is part of what we learn when we grow up. Most of us learn that in many, many everyday situations, your unadulterated emotion isn't a good guideline for action, even though we manage to follow that rule to different degrees.

In the case of decisions with non-intuitive consequences, especially if they affect many others, being able to distance yourself from your emotions is a primary requirement.

"The essence of balance is detachment[/i].
To embrace a cause, to grow fond or spiteful,
is to lose one's balance, after which, no action can be trusted."
(From Thief: The Dark Project, a Keeper quote)

Of course this is an ideal to aspire to. We all have causes we embrace, unless we're enlightened Buddhists. But in order to get a clear picture of a situation, we must necessarily step away from our emotions as much as we can.

You realize this could be wrong, right?

I have a science magazine next to me telling of a case in 1982 of a patient to a neurologist named Antonio Damasios. The patient appearantly became known as "Elliot". Elliot had a tumor in the brain that had gotten removed, and since the removal he could not make decisions. Study of the guy turned out that he had lost the ability to feel or show emotions. The conclusion by Damasio was, that emotions play an important role when making decisions.

It's a bit longer than described above, ofc, but the end result is that emotions are the driving force for making decisions, and without emotions you can't make decisions at all because you cannot feel which choice is the right one.

You know, they could have just removed bits of the brains reposible for both.... Causation and correlation are two different things.

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Reasonable debate is accepting BOTH sides of the argument as plausable,but disagreeing

No, it isn't. You don't have to accept an argument as plausible/reasonable if it is not plausible/reasonable.

Shh...don't tell H_T that.
It might cause an aunerism when he/she tries to figure it out...

Oh look,the zealot has crawled out of its hole.

[In Exile]

Longsword-83 wrote...
Wait, he doesn't want to continue the legacy of humanity just because he treats the asari as equals?

I don't think that's how it works.

Well, asari + humans = asari, so that's a problem right there. It's the most insiduous piece of evolutionary warfare around. 

[SandTrout]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Reasonable debate is accepting BOTH sides of the argument as plausable,but disagreeing

No, it isn't. You don't have to accept an argument as plausible/reasonable if it is not plausible/reasonable.

Shh...don't tell H_T that.
It might cause an aunerism when he/she tries to figure it out...

You should be careful who you're criticisizing and why, Lotion. On a forum, your reputation is all you have, after all.

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

SandTrout wrote...
You should be careful who you're criticisizing and why, Lotion. On a forum, your reputation is all you have, after all.

Being reasonable is apparently trolling