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#2726
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Seboist wrote...


The three council races whose hegemony dictated humanity to follow their lead, the Geth, the Reapers and the Batarians to name but a few.




So the 3 largest races in the galaxy, accept humanity's role in the galaxy, put them on an equal footing with themselves but are in fact denying human rights.

The reapers want to deny every races right so while technically correct in your statement, its kinda a moot point since they aren't actually setting out just to deny human rights, which is pretty much the same situation as the geth that worked with them.

As for the batarians, they're doing a bang up job of denying our rights, they may wish to, they're just unable to.

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As well as some nice weaponry, plus the Hammerhead.

I do hope they'll use Arc Projectors, Hammerheads, and the like against us in 3. It'll be fun.

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alperez wrote...

So the 3 largest races in the galaxy, accept humanity's role in the galaxy, put them on an equal footing with themselves but are in fact denying human rights.


They have never put us on equal footing.

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HomelessGal wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...
As well as some nice weaponry, plus the Hammerhead.

I do hope they'll use Arc Projectors, Hammerheads, and the like against us in 3. It'll be fun.


They won't. The arch projector would be too devestating if used against the player. Same reason we never get hit with pull or lift or what-not.

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Seboist wrote...

Cerberus hasn't killed any more humans than the three mercenary groups, the Turians or the Batarians. That's a blatant lie.


Yeah, but the funny thing is that they're killing themselves for no good reason. They're literally like Lemmings.

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The Normandy, EDI, Arc Projector,Lazarus,etc to name but a few. :happy:


Shamlessly stolen, EDI cannot be controlled by Cerberus, which makes her independent of those clowns, can't care less about the Arc Projector since I'm doing just fine without it, and they failed before Lazarus even started when they said that they had to make sure that they don't lose Shepard, and they still managed to kill a station full of people. Thanks, but I think I'd rather work with a group that don't have tendencies to kill their own team or slowing me down with their failed experiments that are jeopardizing the galaxy all the time.

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Fighting enemy Hammerheads would be awesome.

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HomelessGal wrote...

Cerberus has succeeded at making some damn cool armor, at least.

As well as some nice weaponry, plus the Hammerhead.


Did cerberus create the hammerhead because if so doesn't this alone prove their incompetence,

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Kaiser Shepard wrote...

HomelessGal wrote...

Cerberus has succeeded at making some damn cool armor, at least.

As well as some nice weaponry, plus the Hammerhead.

A highly manuverable paper airplane,and a gun that forces me to say "LIGHTNING BOLT!" before I shoot someone with it. Awesome.

I think if they were gonna name the Hammerhead after another shark they should have called it....Lemon.

There is a shirt on tshirthell that says "What about all the good things Hitler did?"
Someone should make one for TIM (Not implying TIM is Hitler so don't start.)

Modifié par Humanoid_Typhoon, 15 août 2011 - 11:31 .


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EDI is so independent from Cerberus that she was transmitting data to TIM even after she was unshackled.

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Saphra Deden wrote...

Really, Zulu, you of all people should understand the possibilities of transhumanism. I can't believe you are as stuck on naive "hope" as everyone else.

Goo =/= transhumanism. Nuff said.

And what was that about "hope"? I think I've missed something here...

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Seboist wrote...

Fighting enemy Hammerheads would be awesome.


They wouldn't be a challenge.

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ThePwener wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Fighting enemy Hammerheads would be awesome.


They wouldn't be a challenge.

Husk-like levels of health?

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Saphra Deden wrote...

alperez wrote...

So the 3 largest races in the galaxy, accept humanity's role in the galaxy, put them on an equal footing with themselves but are in fact denying human rights.


They have never put us on equal footing.



So accepting us onto the council, giving us the same voice they themselves have isn't putting us on an equal footing with them, what exactly did you want them to do, give us the cool seat aswell.

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ThePwener wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Fighting enemy Hammerheads would be awesome.


They wouldn't be a challenge.


You could just let them ram you and they'd explode.

Seriously. Shepard has more durability on foot.

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Zulu_DFA wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Really, Zulu, you of all people should understand the possibilities of transhumanism. I can't believe you are as stuck on naive "hope" as everyone else.

Goo =/= transhumanism. Nuff said.

This.

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alperez wrote...
Did cerberus create the hammerhead because if so doesn't this alone prove their incompetence,

Somewhat unclear; the email that starts off the Project Firewalker missions mentions that "The MSV Rosalie, a survey ship with Cerberus connections, has gone missing. The survey team was field-testing a new prototype: the Hammerhead planet-side exploration rover."

Modifié par HomelessGal, 15 août 2011 - 11:33 .


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Seboist wrote...

EDI is so independent from Cerberus that she was transmitting data to TIM even after she was unshackled.


Perhaps that was her own choice. Siding with the most rational and capable agency in the galaxy... Not entirely unexpected of a super-smart computer.

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i don't like all this ark projector bashin

that giant taser is da bees knees

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alperez wrote...

So accepting us onto the council, giving us the same voice they themselves have isn't putting us on an equal footing with them, what exactly did you want them to do, give us the cool seat aswell.


Hahaha naiveness at it's finest. So equal footing also means that other aliens can openly campaign as "anti-Human" and the alein council does nothing to stop them? Don't you think that the Turians would silence anyone being openly "anti-Turian".

Please, you are in denial. The Council cares not for Humanity but to themselves. They'll gladly let Earth burn if it means they won't lose a few ships.

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Zulu_DFA wrote...

Perhaps that was her own choice. Siding with the most rational and capable agency in the galaxy... Not entirely unexpected of a super-smart computer.

Oh Zulu, even you have your moments.

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Someone With Mass wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Cerberus hasn't killed any more humans than the three mercenary groups, the Turians or the Batarians. That's a blatant lie.


Yeah, but the funny thing is that they're killing themselves for no good reason. They're literally like Lemmings.

Seboist wrote...
The Normandy, EDI, Arc Projector,Lazarus,etc to name but a few. :happy:


Shamlessly stolen, EDI cannot be controlled by Cerberus, which makes her independent of those clowns, can't care less about the Arc Projector since I'm doing just fine without it, and they failed before Lazarus even started when they said that they had to make sure that they don't lose Shepard, and they still managed to kill a station full of people. Thanks, but I think I'd rather work with a group that don't have tendencies to kill their own team or slowing me down with their failed experiments that are jeopardizing the galaxy all the time.


Shamelessly stolen? You mean the ship TIM encouraged the Alliance to build. EDI can't be controlled by you either and for all we know TIM has failsafes. Lazarus did what it was created to do. You know defy all odds and raise the dead.

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HomelessGal wrote...

Somewhat unclear; the email that starts off the Project Firewalker missions mentions that "The MSV Rosalie, a survey ship with Cerberus connections, has gone missing. The survey team was field-testing a new prototype: the Hammerhead planet-side exploration rover."


Thanks for that, i couldn't remember if it was a cerberus or alliance creation, either our own field testing shows there was work still to be done.

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HomelessGal wrote...

alperez wrote...
Did cerberus create the hammerhead because if so doesn't this alone prove their incompetence,

Somewhat unclear; the email that starts off the Project Firewalker missions mentions that "The MSV Rosalie, a survey ship with Cerberus connections, has gone missing. The survey team was field-testing a new prototype: the Hammerhead planet-side exploration rover."


Yes, the same ship that has a Cerberus logo when you find it.

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aquamutt wrote...

i don't like all this ark projector bashin

that giant taser is da bees knees

LIGHTNING BOLT!:wizard:

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If anything, Cerberus Troopers using the Arc Projector would be encouragement for players not to sit in one spot.