Sepewrath wrote...
Its a pretty obvious perspective, who would think an army is out of character for Cerberus, they sure seemed to have a lot people yelling they were going to destroy me, with sniper rifles and throw in ME1.
That and the whole "secret army" thing...Someone With Mass wrote...
Yeah. Obviously. Building an army with well-equipped soldiers is not something you can do overnight.
Modifié par Arijharn, 18 août 2011 - 06:06 .
TIM thinks a in very longview kind of way, you can't really put anything past him,building a personal army of juggernauts is easier then trying to control the geth,or krogan,or rachni.Arijharn wrote...
On the face of it though; Cerberus as it currently is doesn't need an army. I can understand trying to build alliance super-troopers, but Cerberus isn't a public face. Hell, if TIM wanted to be a politician, he would have put himself in the running and not conspire to get his man in the Terra Firma instead. That's the only issue I have with it really.
Modifié par Humanoid_Typhoon, 18 août 2011 - 06:07 .
Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...
TIM thinks a in very longview kind of way, you can't really put anything past him,building a personal army of juggernauts is easier then trying to control the geth,or krogan,or rachni.
That and it is very low-risk,mind you the numbers of that army could never approach that of those mentioned species under control,but it is more of a supplemental army anyway.
I just know if you can kill TIM it will be turned into a GIF that will spread like wildfire,faster then bieber getting shot to crap on csi.Seboist wrote...
The whole thing reeks of Bioware trying to have an enemy that draws an emotional response from the player as opposed to the Reapers who amount to being nothing more than a natural disaster that can speak. Cerberus just happens to fit the mold best.
We'll see if the alleged reason they're fighting Shepard is as clever as BW thinks it is...
GuardianAngel470 wrote...
Also, to the topic, I tend to just post my opinion in these and then leave so here goes. I agree that the best decision is to keep the base for dozens of reasons. I agree that the choice is much too black and white and that the lines stated by Shepard as a rationale for destroying the base are idiotic and naive.
But I always blow it up. Every. Single. Time. About 15 times to be exact. Why? The Illusive Man. Samara, Mordin, and many others voice better for my Shepard than Shepard did my reasons for destroying the base. To paraphrase Samara, "TIM believes he has the wisdom to utilize it. He does not."
Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...
I just know if you can kill TIM it will be turned into a GIF that will spread like wildfire,faster then bieber getting shot to crap on csi.Seboist wrote...
The whole thing reeks of Bioware trying to have an enemy that draws an emotional response from the player as opposed to the Reapers who amount to being nothing more than a natural disaster that can speak. Cerberus just happens to fit the mold best.
We'll see if the alleged reason they're fighting Shepard is as clever as BW thinks it is...
And didn't have enough forces to even retake his own lab in last novel. Well, he could lie to himself in case someone reads his mind, but that would be strange.Seboist wrote...
There was barely any Cerberus troops in ME1. There were more mercs fought in Garrus' recruitment mission than there were Cerberus troops in all of ME1.
alperez wrote...
Secondly, you claim that being offered a seat on the council in mass effect (try to remember the criteria for getting that seat in game) somehow shows that you don't have as much power and say as the other 3 members of the council, which in fact in game has not been shown, so cannot be proven.
Again you seem to believe you have any idea of what i believe in which is a misconception on your part.
I never said they wouldn't or that they are pure and benevolent, what i've said is much more simple than that, its that in game its not been shown to be the case that they behave or would behave as you say they do and until its shown any suggestion that this is indeed how they are, is based on nothing more than a speculation on your part.
If there are examples of them doing so then you can rightly claim that this proves your point, without those examples you instead have to rely on how things have been presented in game and in game if they suggest that all aliens are one way until shown otherwise the simple truth is that's how they are.
If the game is trying to go for any semblance of realism, then the defautl applies untill proven otherwise. I never see humans going in the bathroom to take a ******. Does that mean I shouldn't consider they do go to the bathroom, untill the game proves me otherwise?
No.
Politics works as it does because that's how it works best. Consider it a law of the universe and survival (of the fittest). For ME to abandon that would be the same as abandoning evolution or gravity - heck, even worse.
In a game set in a fictional universe where aliens exist and we're about to be wiped from existence by a super advanced machine race that's been doing this for countless cycles, then realism has left the building.
This isn't a politics sim, its not a strategy game based on real events, so why the hell do real world politics (an issue that if done in realisticly in a game would provoke controversy and create problems with accuracy) actually apply.
I doubt it. And even if the reason is clever, the decision stays poor from a design perspective: the CB decision should've been the point at which the main routes split, leading the Paragon go Alliance/rogue/whatever and fight Cerbies, while the Renegade would stay with Cerberus and fight mercs and other enemies.Seboist wrote...
The whole thing reeks of Bioware trying to have an enemy that draws an emotional response from the player as opposed to the Reapers who amount to being nothing more than a natural disaster that can speak. Cerberus just happens to fit the mold best.
We'll see if the alleged reason they're fighting Shepard is as clever as BW thinks it is...
Modifié par Kaiser Shepard, 18 août 2011 - 07:06 .
Kaiser Shepard wrote...
I doubt it. And even if the reason is clever, the decision stays poor from a design perspective: the CB decision should've been the point at which the main routes split, leading the Paragon go Alliance/rogue/whatever and fight Cerbies, while the Renegade would stay with Cerberus and fight mercs and other enemies.Seboist wrote...
The whole thing reeks of Bioware trying to have an enemy that draws an emotional response from the player as opposed to the Reapers who amount to being nothing more than a natural disaster that can speak. Cerberus just happens to fit the mold best.
We'll see if the alleged reason they're fighting Shepard is as clever as BW thinks it is...
Meh, Chessmaster/Magnificent Bastard. Hell, we probably even led hid to the stuff he needed for his army throughout ME2, most notably the cloning and memory imprinting tech on Korlus.Seboist wrote...
We should have been fighting Batarian SIU in Sar'kesh and wherever else not some large Cerberus army that shouldn't even exist.
Arijharn wrote...
I think it would be awesome to know in some ways that actions you took in ME2 does benefit Cerb in 3, and they were innocuous as well (i.e., not the CB elephant in the room). Stuff like; getting the Pulp Fiction-esque 'suitcase' from the freighter or something inane like that.
Arijharn wrote...
Meh, they can 'assume' people have it, it was free after all. They assume that Shadow Broker and Arrival happened too.
Modifié par Humanoid_Typhoon, 18 août 2011 - 07:43 .
Seboist wrote...
Arijharn wrote...
Meh, they can 'assume' people have it, it was free after all. They assume that Shadow Broker and Arrival happened too.
Hopefully.
Was that freighter mission you were refering to that one from the blue suns beacon campaign?
Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...
Eh who knows,maybe TIM is tired of alien women and he has moved onto varren and horses.Arijharn wrote...
Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...
Well,they said TIM isn't after you *per se* but there isn't too much besides from "40%",maybe that little factoid shouldn't have been thrown out there so willy-nilly
Could mean that we start to involve ourselves in whatever shenanigans Cerberus are performing imo, and not the other way around like so many (myself included) have come to believe.
Wizz wrote...
And didn't have enough forces to even retake his own lab in last novel. Well, he could lie to himself in case someone reads his mind, but that would be strange.Seboist wrote...
There was barely any Cerberus troops in ME1. There were more mercs fought in Garrus' recruitment mission than there were Cerberus troops in all of ME1.
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