Guest_The Big Bad Wolf_*
marshalleck wrote...
When did Cerberus ever use high-profile attacks in conjunction with media frenzy scare tactics to influence the actions of governing bodies?
"Terrorist" and "terrorism" have become emotional buzzwords used to invoke irrational feelings of panic and terror by the very people who bandy the terms about.
You might as well start posting a color-coded Cerberus Threat Chart next.
Guest_Saphra Deden_*
Someone With Mass wrote...
That'd be easier to believe if the Cerberus antagonists in the books weren't such blatant racists.
What is? Challenging your application of terrorism, or the Cerberus Threat Chart?The Big Bad Wolf wrote...
marshalleck wrote...
When did Cerberus ever use high-profile attacks in conjunction with media frenzy scare tactics to influence the actions of governing bodies?
"Terrorist" and "terrorism" have become emotional buzzwords used to invoke irrational feelings of panic and terror by the very people who bandy the terms about.
You might as well start posting a color-coded Cerberus Threat Chart next.
That's just childish.
marshalleck wrote...
What is? Challenging your application of terrorism, or the Cerberus Threat Chart?The Big Bad Wolf wrote...
marshalleck wrote...
When did Cerberus ever use high-profile attacks in conjunction with media frenzy scare tactics to influence the actions of governing bodies?
"Terrorist" and "terrorism" have become emotional buzzwords used to invoke irrational feelings of panic and terror by the very people who bandy the terms about.
You might as well start posting a color-coded Cerberus Threat Chart next.
That's just childish.
Well,it was going smashingly well beforeMedhia Nox wrote...
Well - this thread has devolved.
"Renegade: You're a dumb idealist!"
"Paragon: You're a terrorist!"
Saphra Deden wrote...
What did that matter though? They still actively worked with aliens in both books and in the comics to further their own ends, which ultimately meant fighting the Reapers.
Saphra Deden wrote...
Someone With Mass wrote...
That'd be easier to believe if the Cerberus antagonists in the books weren't such blatant racists.
What did that matter though? They still actively worked with aliens in both books and in the comics to further their own ends, which ultimately meant fighting the Reapers.
Guest_Saphra Deden_*
Someone With Mass wrote...
Good luck getting the rest of the galaxy to work with those clowns.
Guest_The Big Bad Wolf_*
marshalleck wrote...
What is? Challenging your application of terrorism, or the Cerberus Threat Chart?The Big Bad Wolf wrote...
marshalleck wrote...
When did Cerberus ever use high-profile attacks in conjunction with media frenzy scare tactics to influence the actions of governing bodies?
"Terrorist" and "terrorism" have become emotional buzzwords used to invoke irrational feelings of panic and terror by the very people who bandy the terms about.
You might as well start posting a color-coded Cerberus Threat Chart next.
That's just childish.
Guest_Saphra Deden_*
Pulletlamer wrote...
Which still didn't matter since they've not changed their ideology. Working with aliens (for a job) doesn't mean you appreciate them, nor are willing to accept them as equals and leave your ideology (that is, human dominance over the other species). That they work with aliens proves nothing.
After all, Shepard can be super-renegade in the game (being nearly xenophobic) and still have to work with aliens.
Guest_Saphra Deden_*
The Big Bad Wolf wrote...
But seriously, to me there is enough info to mark Cerberus as terrorists. Remember what happened to Kahoku (or whatever his name was)?
Guest_HomelessGal_*
I still kinda wonder what their point of view is.Medhia Nox wrote...
And - if it doesn't - the designers completely disagree with your point of view.
Saphra Deden wrote...
Pulletlamer wrote...
Which still didn't matter since they've not changed their ideology. Working with aliens (for a job) doesn't mean you appreciate them, nor are willing to accept them as equals and leave your ideology (that is, human dominance over the other species). That they work with aliens proves nothing.
After all, Shepard can be super-renegade in the game (being nearly xenophobic) and still have to work with aliens.
What is your point? Why should they need to change their ideology? All they need to be willing to do is cooperate, and they've been doing just that.
Guest_Saphra Deden_*
Medhia Nox wrote...
Can anyone prove that destroying the base will end in failure? ((No matter how much you have decided it ought to))
And - if it doesn't - the designers completely disagree with your point of view.
And that's all the affirmation I need for my choice .
Modifié par Humanoid_Typhoon, 02 août 2011 - 05:42 .
Yes. And that you invoke this as evidence to substantiate a charge of terrorism just proves how correct I am about "terrorism" being devoid of any clear definition. It's an ill-defined buzzword to slander an opponent with when you want a third party to not look too closely at what the "terrorist" is saying or doing. It invokes feelings of encroaching dread or outright panic, which the third party then associates with the position taken by your opponent.The Big Bad Wolf wrote...
marshalleck wrote...
What is? Challenging your application of terrorism, or the Cerberus Threat Chart?The Big Bad Wolf wrote...
marshalleck wrote...
When did Cerberus ever use high-profile attacks in conjunction with media frenzy scare tactics to influence the actions of governing bodies?
"Terrorist" and "terrorism" have become emotional buzzwords used to invoke irrational feelings of panic and terror by the very people who bandy the terms about.
You might as well start posting a color-coded Cerberus Threat Chart next.
That's just childish.
The Cerberus Threat Chart. But enough about that.
But seriously, to me there is enough info to mark Cerberus as terrorists. Remember what happened to Kahoku (or whatever his name was)?
Modifié par marshalleck, 02 août 2011 - 05:49 .
Guest_Saphra Deden_*
Pulletlamer wrote...
My point is that they're still the same xenophobic organization they were before, during, and after working with aliens.
Which means, they're not willing to accept aliens as equals, and I doubt they would actively cooperate with alien races to bring down the Reapers. Cerberus is more of working his own way.
He died of natural causes.The Big Bad Wolf wrote...
Remember what happened to Kahoku?
Guest_The Big Bad Wolf_*
marshalleck wrote...
Yes. And that you invoke this as evidence to substantiate a charge of terrorism just proves how correct I am about "terrorism" being devoid of any clear definition. It's an ill-defined buzzword to slander an opponent with when you want a third party to not look too closely at what the "terrorist" is saying or doing.The Big Bad Wolf wrote...
The Cerberus Threat Chart. But enough about that.
But seriously, to me there is enough info to mark Cerberus as terrorists. Remember what happened to Kahoku (or whatever his name was)?
Guest_The Big Bad Wolf_*
Saphra Deden wrote...
Medhia Nox wrote...
Can anyone prove that destroying the base will end in failure? ((No matter how much you have decided it ought to))
And - if it doesn't - the designers completely disagree with your point of view.
And that's all the affirmation I need for my choice .
So, meta-gaming in other words.
Congratulations, you have contributed nothing to this discussion.
Zulu_DFA wrote...
He died of natural causes.The Big Bad Wolf wrote...
Remember what happened to Kahoku?
Modifié par Medhia Nox, 02 août 2011 - 05:49 .
Guest_The Big Bad Wolf_*
Zulu_DFA wrote...
He died of natural causes.The Big Bad Wolf wrote...
Remember what happened to Kahoku?
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