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[Sisterofshane]

SandTrout wrote...

By the fact that he tells you in the end of the game that the base will secure not only humanity's survival, but it's DOMINANCE.

This is not an alternate motivation. Dominance and chances of survival are directly related. Udina and Anderson are also seeking human dominance, though their realm of acceptable means is different than TIMs.

He definitely plans to use it in more ways then to just defeat the Reapers.

After the Reapers are defeated, and none of his plans is even possibly worse than what the Reaper will do.

Heck, a renegade Shepard will tell him not to let his "alterior motives" get in the way of the war effort! And renegade Shep is pretty much all for human dominance.

So is my Paragon Shepard, though he disagrees with TIMs means. As we understand them in ME2 and ME1 (from Kohoku), Cerberus's goals are mutually exclusive to the Reapers'. Cerberus's goals are not mutually exclusive to even a Paragon Shepard's, necessarily, although there are some self-hating xenophiles out there.

Apparently Cerberus turns on us in ME3, but we had no good reason to believe that they would in ME2, especially since TIM is at least as aware of the threat the Reapers pose as Shepard is.

I know it's not a great reason to blow up the collector base.  I'm just telling Lotion that the possibility is there, and it isn't anyone's imagination to assume that TIM will use the base for something else.  He flat out tells us he will.

I had my own reasons in every playthrough as to why I blew it up or kept it.  I'm really interested to see if we will actually be rewarded or punished for making the "morally correct" decision.
Like releasing the Rachni queen.

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

None of us want to be elemited by TIM and his minions,so zee base ees KAPUT.

Modifié par Humanoid_Typhoon, 03 août 2011 - 11:28 .

[Lotion Soronarr]

alperez wrote...

I did say it was unlikely that this was in fact the motivation behind Tim's actions, but considering any scenario that doesn't show TIm or cerberus acting in the way you believe them to be you dismiss, i'm not surprised.

Secondly, considering tim's own explanation to Shepard when asked about council/alliance support, just how exactly do you think its possible or likely that Cerbeurs could have just organised an alliance fleet or task force to do the same thing?

By not blocking the signal and ecnouraging the Alliance to look into it. Altough the last part is not neccesary.
He already knows the Collector ship took out a turian patrol. Turians will send a force to check it out. TIM was delayingit. He could have just let that force come and observe/document the battle.

In case you don't remember the whole reason we were supposedly working with Cerberus was that they were the only ones doing anything about the collectors, in fact when you try and gain other support you can't.

As for the resources being drained, again this is fact that you now know to be untrue, your told this in game by edi, only to find out post game that this info may in fact be incorrect, now no doubt you'll scream metagaming.

Waht are you talking about? Cerberuses income is several billion. With Sheppard costing 4 billion and EDI and Normandy mk2 costing even more.... That's a drain on the budget. And it only makes sense that's a drain on the budget. Warships are redicolously expensive.

We know cerberus's goals only because we're told them in game by someone we know is liberal with the truth.When someone you know tells you only what they want you to know, how can you know what they're telling you is the truth?

How about pretty much everyone else who works for Cerberus? And just because TIM has witheld information at one point, doesn't make him "liberal with the truth" and a liar.
When has he actualy lied?
And assuming he did lie, how does that make everything else he said a lie?

Again, you have as much basis to suspect him of ulterior motives as everyone else.
Everything TIM did was PERFECTLY in line with his stated goal.

[Pockles]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Regarding the derelict Reaper...

(wild speculation follows)

What happened on the derelict Reaper? How long was the Cerberus team there? Why weren't precuations taken to stop them from being indoctrinated?

We do know they examined the Reaper even down to a microscopic level to make sure it was dead, but somebody should have noticed the signs of indoctrination.

I have a theory on this.

TIM may have sent the team there deliberately to research the Reaper and be indoctrinated in the process.

Think about this: a Reaper is a huge, around a mile in length. Knowing very little about how Reapers are put together and being forced to create our own living space and access points within and around the Reaper, how long would it take to find the IFF? That IFF fits into Shepard's hand. It is very tiny.

Needle in a haystack much?

Without knowing exactly what the IFF looked like or where it was located the crew spend decades taking apart that thing and never find it, or find it and overlook it.

Perhaps they were allowed to become indoctrinated to better link them to the ship and allow them to find the IFF?

During the early to mid stages of indoctrination they might have been able to sense the layout of the Reaper as they were able to sense one another. This may have given them subconscious directions to look for the IFF as they sought to understand their slumbering god.

Another (or related) idea is that they deliberately powered the Reaper up so they could data-mine and it and use that to locate systems or devices and help them determine their function.

The important thing here is this: Cerberus was working against time. Once the Collectors started taking colonies they needed to formulate a counter-attack as fast as possible. They couldn't afford to spend years slowly (and safely) taking the Reaper apart. They needed that information and they needed it pronto.

I always assumed that thing was portable data storage, like a flash drive, that Cerberus downloaded the IFF into. Not actual reaper hardware.

[alperez]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

By not blocking the signal and ecnouraging the Alliance to look into it. Altough the last part is not neccesary.
He already knows the Collector ship took out a turian patrol. Turians will send a force to check it out. TIM was delayingit. He could have just let that force come and observe/document the battle.

Encouraging the alliance to look into it doesn't guarantee they will though does it, also considering the collectors had already taken out the turian patrol, where exactly is the data advantage of gauging the subsequent turian patrols success or failure?

Waht are you talking about? Cerberuses income is several billion. With Sheppard costing 4 billion and EDI and Normandy mk2 costing even more.... That's a drain on the budget. And it only makes sense that's a drain on the budget. Warships are redicolously expensive.

Your using a source that is later proved to be either incorrect or misinformed, your argument is that because of EDI, Shepard and the Normandy's costs and because of what EDI claims to be Cerberus's income/assetts that this proves that the drain on Cerberus's budget is X which means Y.

If it was simply the case that cerberus's budget was practically spent leaving them with no resources, then where does the money come from that leads to those resources, we know are about to be unleashed.

You can say its metagaming because we only have the info we have at the time, but in reality all it does is show that the info we have may have incorrect or incomplete.

How about pretty much everyone else who works for Cerberus? And just because TIM has witheld information at one point, doesn't make him "liberal with the truth" and a liar.
When has he actualy lied?
And assuming he did lie, how does that make everything else he said a lie?

Again, you have as much basis to suspect him of ulterior motives as everyone else.
Everything TIM did was PERFECTLY in line with his stated goal.

I did say TIM and his subordinates, So Cerberus followers/employees/lackeys however you want to put it are not going to pull the company line, that's if they are even aware or have clearance to know anything above what they themselves are told or believe.

I also said liberal with the truth, a lie of omission is the same as a lie, by only telling you what he wishes to tell you he could be keeping the truth close to his chest could he not.

As for assuming he lies about one thing doesn't prove he lies about everything else, well while that's true it also shows he's a liar, if you know when to believe a liar is telling the truth then your obviously unique.

I've showed why TIM's case is different to other peoples, you however refuse to accept that because it disagrees with your own view of TIM and cerberus's goals, which is fine you perfectly entitled to do so.

Denial's not just a river in egypt though.

But my computers acting up now, so if you reply and i don't respond, i'll do so as soon as i'm able.

Modifié par alperez, 04 août 2011 - 12:04 .

[Lotion Soronarr]

[quote]alperez wrote...

[quote]Lotion Soronnar wrote...

By not blocking the signal and ecnouraging the Alliance to look into it. Altough the last part is not neccesary.
He already knows the Collector ship took out a turian patrol. Turians will send a force to check it out. TIM was delayingit. He could have just let that force come and observe/document the battle.
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Encouraging the alliance to look into it doesn't guarantee they will though does it, also considering the collectors had already taken out the turian patrol, where exactly is the data advantage of gauging the subsequent turian patrols success or failure?[/quote]

Becasue you (TIM) haven't been monitoring/recording the patrol. You find about it after you recieve the destress signal.

Not to mention that expending ones own forces to gauge the strength of a nenemy is stupid. You let someone else do hte dirty work.




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As for the resources being drained, again this is fact that you now know to be untrue, your told this in game by edi, only to find out post game that this info may in fact be incorrect, now no doubt you'll scream metagaming.[/quote]

Waht are you talking about? Cerberuses income is several billion. With Sheppard costing 4 billion and EDI and Normandy mk2 costing even more.... That's a drain on the budget. And it only makes sense that's a drain on the budget. Warships are redicolously expensive.
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Your using a source that is later proved to be either incorrect or misinformed, your argument is that because of EDI, Shepard and the Normandy's costs and because of what EDI claims to be Cerberus's income/assetts that this proves that the drain on Cerberus's budget is X which means Y.

If it was simply the case that cerberus's budget was practically spent leaving them with no resources, then where does the money come from that leads to those resources, we know are about to be unleashed.

You can say its metagaming because we only have the info we have at the time, but in reality all it does is show that the info we have may have incorrect or incomplete.
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What other info you are talking about?



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How about pretty much everyone else who works for Cerberus? And just because TIM has witheld information at one point, doesn't make him "liberal with the truth" and a liar.
When has he actualy lied?
And assuming he did lie, how does that make everything else he said a lie?

Again, you have as much basis to suspect him of ulterior motives as everyone else.
Everything TIM did was PERFECTLY in line with his stated goal.

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I did say TIM and his subordinates, So Cerberus followers/employees/lackeys however you want to put it are not going to pull the company line, that's if they are even aware or have clearance to know anything above what they themselves are told or believe.

I also said liberal with the truth, a lie of omission is the same as a lie, by only telling you what he wishes to tell you he could be keeping the truth close to his chest could he not.

As for assuming he lies about one thing doesn't prove he lies about everything else, well while that's true it also shows he's a liar, if you know when to believe a liar is telling the truth then your obviously unique.

I've showed why TIM's case is different to other peoples, you however refuse to accept that because it disagrees with your own view of TIM and cerberus's goals, which is fine you perfectly entitled to do so.

Denial's not just a river in egypt though.

But my computers acting up now, so if you reply and i don't respond, i'll do so as soon as i'm able.
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And I'm not in denial, so the point is moot.


A lie of omission is not the same as a lie. And even if I assumed it was, so what? Everyone lies. Shep can lie trough the game plenty of times.

TIM's case isn't really different from other poeple, but you just refuse to accept it becuase it disagrees with your view of TIM and Cerberus goals.

You can't even think of any ulterior motvies that would fit his behavior!

[Rekkampum]

ThePwener wrote...

Rekkampum wrote...

Medhia Nox wrote...

@ThePwener: the same Cerberus who wasted tons of resources on Thorian Creepers, Husks, Rachni, and Thresher Maws?

===

So, while you're all sitting on a derelict juice machine.

I'll go defend the galaxy.

Let me know when you find something useful.

This reeks of WIN. I honestly could not care about either choice- I saved some, destroyed on the other profiles. Reaper technology can indoctrinate even when it hasn't been activated, as numerous failed Cerberus experiments have shown. Still we *can* overcome Reapers by being innovative. I can't wait to see whether TIM's indoctrinated along with Cerberus.

Oh please. It's a damn base. Metagaming, the base will at the end end up in Shepard's hands and never be used against the Reapers due to Cerberus not helping in 90% of the game (bastards). It'll end up being used by Shepard (if he wishes), to advance Humanity and stomp on every other race.

I don't metagame. Your theory is nice, but evidence of the indoctrinating power of Reaper technology even when Reapers aren't active (Derelict Reaper, for instance) kind of suggests the opposite. We'll see though, when the game finally releases.

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

Rekkampum wrote...

ThePwener wrote...

Rekkampum wrote...

Medhia Nox wrote...

@ThePwener: the same Cerberus who wasted tons of resources on Thorian Creepers, Husks, Rachni, and Thresher Maws?

===

So, while you're all sitting on a derelict juice machine.

I'll go defend the galaxy.

Let me know when you find something useful.

This reeks of WIN. I honestly could not care about either choice- I saved some, destroyed on the other profiles. Reaper technology can indoctrinate even when it hasn't been activated, as numerous failed Cerberus experiments have shown. Still we *can* overcome Reapers by being innovative. I can't wait to see whether TIM's indoctrinated along with Cerberus.

Oh please. It's a damn base. Metagaming, the base will at the end end up in Shepard's hands and never be used against the Reapers due to Cerberus not helping in 90% of the game (bastards). It'll end up being used by Shepard (if he wishes), to advance Humanity and stomp on every other race.

I don't metagame. Your theory is nice, but evidence of the indoctrinating power of Reaper technology even when Reapers aren't active (Derelict Reaper, for instance) kind of suggests the opposite. We'll see though, when the game finally releases.

We'll see this and every other morality thread about the base/reaper victory turn into ZOMGRETCON and *RAGEFACE*Paragons always get everything nice.

[xXljoshlXx]

When he sent you on the collector ship mission TiM lied. I can finally understand you sig Lotion

[Rekkampum]

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Rekkampum wrote...

ThePwener wrote...

Rekkampum wrote...

Medhia Nox wrote...

@ThePwener: the same Cerberus who wasted tons of resources on Thorian Creepers, Husks, Rachni, and Thresher Maws?

===

So, while you're all sitting on a derelict juice machine.

I'll go defend the galaxy.

Let me know when you find something useful.

This reeks of WIN. I honestly could not care about either choice- I saved some, destroyed on the other profiles. Reaper technology can indoctrinate even when it hasn't been activated, as numerous failed Cerberus experiments have shown. Still we *can* overcome Reapers by being innovative. I can't wait to see whether TIM's indoctrinated along with Cerberus.

Oh please. It's a damn base. Metagaming, the base will at the end end up in Shepard's hands and never be used against the Reapers due to Cerberus not helping in 90% of the game (bastards). It'll end up being used by Shepard (if he wishes), to advance Humanity and stomp on every other race.

I don't metagame. Your theory is nice, but evidence of the indoctrinating power of Reaper technology even when Reapers aren't active (Derelict Reaper, for instance) kind of suggests the opposite. We'll see though, when the game finally releases.

We'll see this and every other morality thread about the base/reaper victory turn into ZOMGRETCON and *RAGEFACE*Paragons always get everything nice.

It gets tiresome for me. Either way, I'm sure we'll see both sides have a way to defeat the Reapers that suits their ideology. If Bioware does play it safe, I'm going to be a little upset.

[snackrat]

Given the number of people who died for that base, and the potential information we could learn about the reapers from the *EVERYTHING* there, I would normally have kept it, in honour of the colonists if nothing else.

...but not to freakin' CERBERUS.

[SandTrout]

Why single out Cerberus as someone you wouldn't give it to.

Not giving it to Batarians I can understand because they would use it to wipe out humanity, given the chance.

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

Trout please explain your reasons for blowing up the base,I haven't seen anything besides "well that's not a good enough reason to blow it" for days...

[dreman9999]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

ThePwener wrote...

I sometimes get the feeling BW is making this up as they go along. The books/comics ****** a lot of people off.... always.

The 'filler' nature of ME2's main plot, namely the Collector arc, makes me feel the same way. The way I see it, at the end of ME1 they probably only had just that, Revelation and the obvious endgame scenario that is the Reaper War to work towards.

Like the collecter plot is a filler. A filler plot would be the main character facing something completly different from his main quest. The collector arc was a "stop the reaper's plans plot" which was also ME1'S plot. ME1 plot generally was the introdution of a villian that you don't know his plans, chasing him, finding out his plans, then you had to stop the plans and the reapers. ME2 plot was generally the same except you didn't chase the villin's, you got ready to face the villian. The plot had you do manything for thecharacters for the game but that was a means to an end. You did it becauseit helped you on your main mission in the long run. And being that the collecter are pawns for the reapers, the plot stongly lies under "stopping the reapers" which is the point of ME plot.

ME2 in a nutshell was as follows:

-Status quo ME1
-Aliens you've never heard of before in the previous game- Collectors - suddenly appear and kill Shepard
-Shepard is brought back to life by Cerberus to 'justify' being forced to work with them, two whole minutes later
-A whole lot of exposition, of the universe, arguably the best part of the game
-Collectors are conveniently done away with at the end of the episode/season
-Shepard proclaims he's flying solo again
-Status quo ME1, more or less

It is largely the way the Collectors are introduced and disposed of at the beginning and ending of the game that makes it feel so filler-ish. Now, if we had actually heard of them before, even if never seen, it would've felt like much less of an ass-pull. Thing is, the team created such a wonderful and large universe with the first game that there was truly no need to make up something to string everything together: we would've easily settled for another geth plot, something more in-universe like Arrival as the main plot, or some in-universe war/confict to show us more socio-political aspects.

Same goes for the Shadow Broker reveal: there's a rich cast of characters able to be it, warranting what should obviously have been a WTF-reveal. It still was in its own way, but not in a convincing one. The Shadow Broker that we got, the yagh, would've been more fit to be introduced as the pet Dragon, perhaps even the Starscream during the story.

Also, I would've liked for the Reaper conflict to have started sometime during ME2, as opposed to them being yet another entity that are containted withing just one game. The team claimed this would be their Empire, yet it didn't really deliver on the promised darkness of the title. Having the Reapers arrive during the endgame and having them turn everything SNAFU would've made for such a more impressive cliffhanger. Instead, we get one meal consisting of three courses, but which are presented as three largely stand-alone dishes.

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Yes, TIM assumed Sheppard was smart enough and serious about the repaer threat..that was obviously a big mistake.

TIM recognised Shepard as the hero in the space opera that is the ME-verse, which is why he decided that using you in his gamble was the best way to further his causes. Whether Shepars recognises him as the Chessmaster/Magnificent Bastard as well and calls him out on it, is up to the player to decide.

No, the way the collecter were put in and taken out doesn't in anyway make it a fill.
1.The collects are part of the Status quo of mass effect 1 story because they are the tools of the reapers. Everytime any detail of the reapers come up, one thing is clear....they use agents. Seran was a reaper agent. The rachni were reaper agents.The heritic geth are reaper agents. Dr. Quen from Revilation was areaper agent. And the collecters are Reaper agents. They were never independent alien beings....They were tools for the reapers and Mordin made it very clear on this. The face they are tools for the reaper and you had to stop what ever plan the reapers were using them for makes ME2 not a filler.
2. Also, the fact that the collecter were not mentioned before is not a problem with the plot. You and your sheperd do n't know everything. You would never meet a collecter in ME1 because ou never when to the tuminus systems. You can say the same for Aria, Omega , illium and any new character and place in ME2 if you fell that new thing added or mention is bad for the plot.  The collecter is a rare alian race which most people felt were just a romour and in the end...The were less than that. Also, how do you know that the reapers can't just make more collectors?

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As for TIM, reviving Sheperd was never about Sheperd....It was all about TIM.  Thing is that there plenty of people who could stop the reaper, TIm could of gotten Garrus to do so. The thing is that with Sheperd, having him their would guarantee what ever force that is made up to stop the reapers is Human lead andmajor military power human controled. If he tried to use some other human to be the face of humanity to unite the galexy, their is a high chance that that person my fail and someone from another race would take that spotand with that humanity loses that spot of power. With Sheperd, he/she already has the trust of the galexy as a hero who already kill a reaper and more faith would be put on Shep solder from other races. And being Shep is with the alliance, that mean the alliance get a huge support from the other races. By the end of the war, Humanity would be the race with the most power in the galexy. And even if Shep is agents TIM's plan it would not matter.If he can't control Sheperd, he can control the people who tell him what to do...the brass and the politicans. They are the ones who use humanities new power after the war, not Sheperd. And TIm is the one that can control who these people are and what they do.
So the reason why TIM brought back Shep is all about guaranteeing control.

Modifié par dreman9999, 04 août 2011 - 04:28 .

[SandTrout]

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Trout please explain your reasons for blowing up the base,I haven't seen anything besides "well that's not a good enough reason to blow it" for days...

The beginning of the thread stated most of the valid points. If people don't care enough to read even the first page, they probably don't really care about any kind of meaningful discussion.

Modifié par SandTrout, 04 août 2011 - 04:19 .

[Rekkampum]

SandTrout wrote...

Why single out Cerberus as someone you wouldn't give it to.

Not giving it to Batarians I can understand because they would use it to wipe out humanity, given the chance.

Am I the only one who thinks it was a cop out for Bioware not to include an option to either relinquish the base to the Alliance or the Council?

[Sebby]

Rekkampum wrote...

SandTrout wrote...

Why single out Cerberus as someone you wouldn't give it to.

Not giving it to Batarians I can understand because they would use it to wipe out humanity, given the chance.

Am I the only one who thinks it was a cop out for Bioware not to include an option to either relinquish the base to the Alliance or the Council?

No, Bioware didn't want to overplay their hand at having Paragons have their cake and eat it like they did the save the council decision.

[SandTrout]

Rekkampum wrote...

Am I the only one who thinks it was a cop out for Bioware not to include an option to either relinquish the base to the Alliance or the Council?

Probably. The O4 relay is in the heart of the Terminus Systems, well outside of Alliance and Citadel authority. Cerberus is the only organization that is nominally allied with Shepard that has the structure to allow an independent cell to operate beyond the O4 relay w/o sparking a war with the Terminus. Also, Cerberus is the only organization that we know acknowledges the Reaper Threat.

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

Does Aria's influence go anywhere but Omega itself?

[SandTrout]

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Does Aria's influence go anywhere but Omega itself?

Probably, she managed to retake the Cerberus facility in Retribution, after all. However, Aria is just as unethical as Cerberus, and does not even have my species interests (nominally) at heart.

I'd give the base to TIM long before I give it to Aria.

[Sisterofshane]

SandTrout wrote...

Why single out Cerberus as someone you wouldn't give it to.

Not giving it to Batarians I can understand because they would use it to wipe out humanity, given the chance.

Mostly because that was the only option given.

Anybody do that sidequest involving the Cerberus agent and the data?
How many of you that kept the base also gave cerberus back it's incriminating data?

My Shep specifically did everything she could to undermine Cerberus' quest for future dominance.  That included keeping the data for myself, or giving it to the alliance.

As far as the Collector base, I did a quick value judgment.  What is the actual chance of finding something that will win us the war against the Reapers within a short amount of time?  Small to very small.

What is the chance that TIM will use the base for something other than the defeat of the Reapers? Definitely more significant. (Also, searching for anything else could potentially be VERY bad for humanity, not just Cerberus or other species)

If I had been given any other option, I may have considered it.  Such as giving it to the council, or to the Alliance.

[Rekkampum]

SandTrout wrote...

Rekkampum wrote...

Am I the only one who thinks it was a cop out for Bioware not to include an option to either relinquish the base to the Alliance or the Council?

Probably. The O4 relay is in the heart of the Terminus Systems, well outside of Alliance and Citadel authority. Cerberus is the only organization that is nominally allied with Shepard that has the structure to allow an independent cell to operate beyond the O4 relay w/o sparking a war with the Terminus. Also, Cerberus is the only organization that we know acknowledges the Reaper Threat.

With the information Shepard could present the Council, they'd more than accept the Reaper threat, so that point is irrelevant. Secondly, that didn't stop the Citadel from trying to establish a colony on Virmire (although this did eventually fail due to the corruption) - or in light of ME 1, send an STG team out for a secret reconaissance mission. The same could be done again if they wanted, especially with the evidence Shepard would have had. It's also well known that only those with the IFF would be able to reach the Collector Base successfully, so chances of them being discovered operating there would be slim.

Modifié par Rekkampum, 04 août 2011 - 05:10 .

[Sisterofshane]

SandTrout wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Does Aria's influence go anywhere but Omega itself?

Probably, she managed to retake the Cerberus facility in Retribution, after all. However, Aria is just as unethical as Cerberus, and does not even have my species interests (nominally) at heart.

I'd give the base to TIM long before I give it to Aria.

Ah, if only there were more options!

In real life, Aria would owe you a favor for all the "work" you did for her, and she could let a few alliance research teams into the O4 relay (under her scrutiny, of course), and I wouldn't have to let TIM get the base.

Of course he'd probably just get the info anyway.  At least he wouldn't have exclusive access to it.

[SandTrout]

The only thing holding Aria to any promise of future cooperation is Aria's own sense that future dealings with Shepard/Alliance are more profitable than having proprietary access to the CB tech.

There is greater reason to believe that Aria would use proprietary access to the CB tech in order to consolidate power in the terminus, and from there she poses a very real threat to Citadel Space in general and Humanity specifically. Aria is actually in a position to consolidate political power in the Terminus and form a true state, where TIM does not have that capability (discussed earlier in the thread).

TIM is know for releasing data to the Alliance as soon as he can find a less than suspicious means to do so (Ascension) because the Alliance is the best avenue for Cerberus to achieve its goals. Aria would keep a stranglehold on her monopoly of the CB as long as possible because of the kind of political leverage it provides her. There is know reason for her to judge that the debts she owes Shepard would cause her to allow the Alliance access to the CB. To the contrary, the best that we are likely to get from her based on those debts is select pieces of technology that she can pick and choose, while she keeps the best for herself.

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

I'd like to think Humans are pretty good at the spy game,don't see how Cerberus could slip a few unregistered vessels through but the SA can't