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leggywillow wrote...

I'm trying really, really hard not to turn into a butthurt fan wanker, but I'm not too pleased with the movie.  Even if BW gives an interview explaining that the movie is only one version of the Mass Effect 1 story, new fans (and the members of the fandom who like to ****** about "TEH CANON!") will see that to be the canon.  And I know that it shouldn't matter.  Who cares if some dumb gamer thinks that a paragon Liara-loving ManShep (or whatever the movie establishes) is the "canon" Shepard?  It shouldn't matter, but it still gets under my skin and upsets me.

It's impossible to remain faithful to the source material when the main character of the source material and the events of the story can vary so wildly.

The moment you let idiots annoy you like that you'll always be pissed off about something. Its understandable though.

Honestly if they do the movie making it about Shepard (which is a little iffy) then I would just treat it like its a different playthrough as long as Bioware makes it non canon which they likely will.

[God_Emperor]

Nope, not disappointed at all.

As far as I'm concerned there has been a canon Shepard from the moment MaleShep appeared on the cover art of the original Mass Effect. Do I use default Shep as my character? Nope, not at all. Will my games' choices be the ones that appear on the film? Maybe, maybe not. Still it doesn't bother me, sure as hell doesn't make me so angry as some folks.

I don't really allow a canon story on film ruin my enjoyment of the choices I make in my games. The film version is the filmmakers' story, the games are my own stories.

In fact I'm glad the movie is the original Mass Effect and I think Matthew Fox will make a pretty good Shep, just needs to bulk up a bit of muscle. Looking forward to the film and Mass Effect 3.

[Pax of Doom]

nicksmi56 wrote...

Wait wait i don't understand. My friends don't like to watch me play mass effect cause they aren't interested. In a movie world full of sci fi movies (most of which that aren't good) why would people who haven't played the games or heard of them be interested in this movie? Not trying to start an arguement but someone pls explain why we're assuming a whole bunch of people who have no idea about this would rush to the theater

Because it has 'splosions, a badass marine tough guy dudebro, a badass bounty hunter alien dude, hot blue alien T&A. 

It will be a summer blockbuster flick, probably with January Jones as Liara, Shia LeBoeuf as Kaidan and Kristen Stweart as Ashley.    It will not be memorable, it will ****** off fans, and it will probably have a decent opening weekend and drop off the charts the next week.  The best part of the film will be the RiffTrax.

Seriously, don't you people see the potential for moneymaking marketing?! 

[leggywillow]

Pax of Doom wrote...
It will be a summer blockbuster flick, probably with January Jones as Liara, Shia LeBoeuf as Kaidan and Kristen Stweart as Ashley.    It will not be memorable, it will ****** off fans, and it will probably have a decent opening weekend and drop off the charts the next week.  The best part of the film will be the RiffTrax.

OH GOD YOU HAVE DESCRIBED ALL OUR NIGHTMARES.

[Fhaileas]

YAY! NEED YET MORE FRANCHISE RAEP PLZ!!!

[aguila002]

Ryllen Laerth Kriel wrote...

Grammar on the internet is horrible(not needed). I blame texting.

I agree that the first contact war would be the best source for a film.

Making a movie about Shepard would be ridiculous since the game(no s) revolves around the player's Shepard, even if the dialogue is set in stone and voiced.

That said, I highly expect the Mass Effect movie to be about Shepard(no comma) ] and to suck balls, because that's because that's what movies tend to do. Most people in the film industry are uninspired little turtles who hide and snap out at whatever creative property they can get their beaks on.

Ahem!! Correct Grammer?
haha i got bored and just thought i should do this. well it's not perfect but better
 


color doesnt work? wow

Modifié par aguila002, 31 juillet 2011 - 04:48 .

[aguila002]

aguila002 wrote...

Ryllen Laerth Kriel wrote...

Grammar on the internet is horrible(not needed). I blame texting.

I agree that the first contact war would be the best source for a film.

Making a movie about Shepard would be ridiculous since the game(no s) revolves around the player's Shepard, even if the dialogue is set in stone and voiced.

That said, I highly expect the Mass Effect movie to be about Shepard(no comma) and to suck balls, because that's because that's what movies tend to do. Most people in the film industry are uninspired little turtles who hide and snap out at whatever creative property they can get their beaks on.

Ahem!! Correct Grammer?
haha i got bored and just thought i should do this. well it's not perfect but better
 


color doesnt work? wow

Modifié par aguila002, 31 juillet 2011 - 04:50 .

[joriandrake]

Luigitornado wrote...

I love the idea of a movie. Another way to enjoy Mass Effect. "Fans" complain too much.

I would like to point out how absurd it is to ridicule fans for voicing their fears on how/why a movie would probably ruin their game experience or how the movie itself may be bad if the game story and Shepard are in it.

Fan comes from the word fanatic, there is no way around it to say this mildly, it doesn't have to be an insult although in this century most who say that word consider it as one. If you are a fan of Mass Effect it is just natural that you want the best for the franchise and for your own future enjoyment of it.

You can bash the actual "how/why" reasoning of the fans who say what could terribly go wrong in the movie or why they won't even watch it if Shepard shows up in it or the script uses the story of the game campaign, but your argument fails if you start to bash the fans because they do what they are supposed to do and are fanatic about the things they want to protect in their story, for their own personal canon story.

Modifié par joriandrake, 31 juillet 2011 - 05:39 .

[joriandrake]

leggywillow wrote...

Pax of Doom wrote...
It will be a summer blockbuster flick, probably with January Jones as Liara, Shia LeBoeuf as Kaidan and Kristen Stweart as Ashley.    It will not be memorable, it will ****** off fans, and it will probably have a decent opening weekend and drop off the charts the next week.  The best part of the film will be the RiffTrax.

OH GOD YOU HAVE DESCRIBED ALL OUR NIGHTMARES.

nope, he didn't mention Uwe Boll as director/producer

[Bourne Endeavor]

joriandrake wrote...

leggywillow wrote...

Pax of Doom wrote...
It will be a summer blockbuster flick, probably with January Jones as Liara, Shia LeBoeuf as Kaidan and Kristen Stweart as Ashley.    It will not be memorable, it will ****** off fans, and it will probably have a decent opening weekend and drop off the charts the next week.  The best part of the film will be the RiffTrax.

OH GOD YOU HAVE DESCRIBED ALL OUR NIGHTMARES.

nope, he didn't mention Uwe Boll as director/producer

Don't forget Michael Bay helping along. Transformers meets Mass Effect!  *kills self*

[Lotion Soronarr]

Sierra Crysis wrote...

First let me just say that comparing Batman and Robin to Mass Effect is like comparing apples to oranges. Mass Effect is like one of those old adventure books (Flip to page 93 to goto the snowy mountains) to a set script. Batman was a comic with set characters and though these characters do get changed, people know then that they ARE changes because there is a Batman canon; and so the movie just gets bashed.

Mass Effect has been said since the beginning that your choices are your canon; which is setting bioware up to be a huge liar if this movie becomes popular at all; because then what you have is this snowball effect. Where new authors and game companies are going to want to get in on the IP, and they'll base their series on the most popular medium, which will be the movie because it's above all the most acessible thing for humans to get into in today's world. So from then on, there will be this IP canon like they did with Revan, and Obsidian with the Exile.

Now, I don't know about you, but it's severely affected my future playthroughs of these games, because as a player I want my decisions to mean something, if anything else, in my head. But you know, I can't even do that because I know that Revan is a set stone that is a guy that undertakes the lightside ending and falls in love with Bastilla. It's the same with the Exile, though I suppose to a lesser extent because they made her as I typically play the game anyways. What they did with Revan was tolerable to me though because, they had to fit him into the Starwars IP somehow, and he was an awesome enough character to have other stories revolve around him... And I wasn't really old enough then to care to look and see if they made this canon promise then...

Well in ME, they don't have the same problems. ME is THEIR IP, and all EU comics and novels have purposely avoided a canon which supports their promise, and I love them for that. But what's going to happen with this movie is that their creation is going to get ripped out of their hands like what happened with Lucas and Starwars. Of course, this won't happen if the movie isn't popular, if it's based on ME1. So... The worst thing that can happen in my opinion then is that the movie becomes successful, which is horrible to say because I really want Bioware to make this work. There's plenty of other games that could be made into movies, and may possibly be if ME works and sets a new bar like the recent comic movies have. But I wouldn't want any of it at the risk of damaging the series, and looking at my Shepard only to think every time that I make a choice that I'm delving into some dellusional alternate reality that poses absolutely no weight, because X is the right answer.

Yes it invalidates your playthroughs.
Yes it changes the standpoint that there is no CANON
So, YES, it does effect the game's CANON.

And there you got the crux of hte issue. the problem is not the movie.

The problem is ALL IN YOUR HEAD.

No, it doesn't invalidate anyone s playtrough. The entire line of reasoning is retarded.



Now, more than ever before, I WANT to see a ME movies based on Me1.. and one whose choices will p*** the most ammount of whiney possesive fanboys.
Then, I will come ot the forums, eat popcorn and laugh at your self-imposed misery.

Modifié par Lotion Soronnar, 31 juillet 2011 - 02:44 .

[jmood88]

People on this forum complain about every damn thing. If you don't like the movie, then don't watch it. Bioware already has a canon version of the story so I don't know why a movie becoming canon in some people's minds affects anything. Your playthrough is your playthrough, a movie doesn't change that.

[United_Strafes]

Well first of all your idea is stupid.

Second I'm not dissapointed in the movie at all because not only have I not seen it like anyone else on the planet it hasn't even come close to starting production yet.

[tabulius]

Altought it is tricky to make a 1.5 - 2 hour feature film about a game series that is something like 80 hours of game play, I'm still interested of seeing especially Shepards story on screen. They should make this into a trilogy to get most of the story.

I want to see it mostly because it would be fun to see how they can pull of the familiar characters. They should use most of the VO actors like for Tali for example. I don't know if the guy model can act who loaned his face to Shepard, but that would be fun to see Of course the actor who did Melissa can act herself, just die her hair to black and we are there.

But oh so many things can go wrong in this film. I fear this will be the case. The thing is that when they want to make this commercially succesful, they'll tweak and rewrite the script until there is no life left - just a generally pleasing PG-13 story and easily watchable brainless entertainment.. That totally underestimates the fans.

Or it might rock.

[KreeCapt]

Nope. Looking forward to it now more than ever since it has Shepard in it.

[Reciever80]

littlezack wrote...

nicksmi56 wrote...

Not trying to start an arguement but someone pls explain why we're assuming a whole bunch of people who have no idea about this would rush to the theater

You make a pretty good point.  I imagine most people would have to be recommended by fans of the game...  hehe.

They'll go for the same reason a lot of non-Star Trek fans went to see the Star Trek movie - if it looks good and has some solid trailers, people will go to see it. It'll come down to presentation and word of mouth.

What did the Star Trek fanbase think of that movie? I say that because I thought that movie was absolutely great. So did my dad, who was a big fan of the series when he was growing up. If they thought the same thing that we're thinking about the ME movie, then it should be fine really.

[Icinix]

I like remakes, I like spin offs, I like different media.


I don't care they that do it - if I don't like it, I don't have to expose myself to it. I'd rather they did it and potentially open up the universe to new markets, new concepts, new genres than to not do anything.


That said - I'm only fine with it if they keep pushing the original medium.

Something like Star Wars - well I hate what they've done with that.

[Massadonious1]

I'll wait to judge the movie on the actual quality.

If it's bad, then it will be bad because of the directing, acting, pacing, etc., not because it's Shep's story. Something based on the FCW or other mediums/stories doesn't automatically guarantee success, either.

Modifié par Massadonious1, 02 août 2011 - 04:28 .

[C9316]

I'm not upset at all because I don't plan on watching it, Hollywood ruins enough games/tv shows with crap and I don't want to waste the money.

[Reciever80]

...but we already have a ME movie.

[Bluko]

XyleJKH wrote...

LGTX wrote...

Eamon696 wrote...
Even if it was, why do you care?  How does it affect the choices you made, the relationships you forged, and the Shepards you crafted?

Careful now. Posting super-disarming and logical questions like those can quickly kill the discussion, which is based on anything but.

Seriously though, seconded.

I care because it goes against the whole premise of the game series. To me anyways the Mass Effect games have always sort of been a "make your own adventure".

Will seeing this movie effect my playthroughs? No, because by 2014 or whenever the movie is out I probably won't be playing anymore. However by establishing a canon story or even a default story they're basically just encouraging people to never play the games. Now yes by 2014 not many people will be interested in playing a game from 2007.

But why trod upon established work? Why remake something that is already good?

I understand the movie is trying to branch out to other audiences. You know specifically to those who like Sci-Fi but may not be gamers. People probably like my father who love Sci-Fi but could never hope to play anything that involves an analog stick or any kind of aiming. Thing is if I should ever mention Mass Effect to him it's just going to be a movie. And should say Wrex die by default in the movie he'll never know anything different.

Not only is this a dis-service to fans who've already played the game and created their own Shepards, but it's also dis-serivce to any future fans.

It just boggles me that rather then expand upon the universe and create something new that those of us who've played the games and those that haven't can enjoy, they're simply going for a cash grab. Cause apparently they figure enough fans don't really care who or what Shepard is as long as it's got N7/Mass Effect slapped on it and that enough sorry sods wll go see it anyways.

If these games had a set story and protagonist like God of War, Halo, Gears, etc. I would have no issue with them trying to make movie adaptions of the various games. (Frankly I think God of War could work quite well.) But trying to remake the 3 games into movies just shows a certain amount of disregard to your original fans. And it's just a bad idea to try and compress a 30-40 hour visual experience into something maybe 2 hours long. I can't possibly see how the movies could even hope to do the games any justice.

And for those saying that a movie based on events like oh say the FCW wouldn't be interesting because there couldn't possibly be enough drama/explosions. Really? You ever see District 9? I think the FCW would make a perfect setting given just how much Mass Effect is all about inter-species relations. To most of us the FCW is little more then a boring codex entry. But a movie could bring that obscure little background story to light. We could see why Turians and Humans aren't "best friends" and Humanity's first baby steps into the Galactic Universe. And it wouldn't really matter so much who they pick for the cast since this takes place long before the games so there is more freedom with who they can actually pick for whatever roles and you know maybe actually get some good actors.

Modifié par Bluko, 02 août 2011 - 05:25 .

[littlezack]

I understand the movie is trying to branch out to other audiences. You know specifically to those who like Sci-Fi but may not be gamers. People probably like my father who love Sci-Fi but could never hope to play anything that involves an analog stick or any kind of aiming. Thing is if I should ever mention Mass Effect to him it's just going to be a movie. And should say Wrex die by default in the movie he'll never know anything different.

He'll know different if you explain it it to him.

[LGTX]

[quote]Bluko wrote...

[quote]XyleJKH wrote...

[quote]LGTX wrote...

[quote]Eamon696 wrote...
Even if it was, why do you care?  How does it affect the choices you made, the relationships you forged, and the Shepards you crafted?[/quote]

Careful now. Posting super-disarming and logical questions like those can quickly kill the discussion, which is based on anything but.
[/quote]

Seriously though, seconded.
[/quote]

I care because it goes against the whole premise of the game series. To me anyways the Mass Effect games have always sort of been a "make your own adventure".

Will seeing this movie effect my playthroughs? No, because by 2014 or whenever the movie is out I probably won't be playing anymore. However by establishing a canon story or even a default story they're basically just encouraging people to never play the games. Now yes by 2014 not many people will be interested in playing a game from 2007.

But why trod upon established work? Why remake something that is already good?

I understand the movie is trying to branch out to other audiences. You know specifically to those who like Sci-Fi but may not be gamers. People probably like my father who love Sci-Fi but could never hope to play anything that involves an analog stick or any kind of aiming. Thing is if I should ever mention Mass Effect to him it's just going to be a movie. And should say Wrex die by default in the movie he'll never know anything different.

Not only is this a dis-service to fans who've already played the game and created their own Shepards, but it's also dis-serivce to any future fans.

It just boggles me that rather then expand upon the universe and create something new that those of us who've played the games and those that haven't can enjoy, they're simply going for a cash grab. Cause apparently they figure enough fans don't really care who or what Shepard is as long as it's got N7/Mass Effect slapped on it and that enough sorry sods wll go see it anyways.

If these games had a set story and protagonist like God of War, Halo, Gears, etc. I would have no issue with them trying to make movie adaptions of the various games. (Frankly I think God of War could work quite well.) But trying to remake the 3 games into movies just shows a certain amount of disregard to your original fans. And it's just a bad idea to try and compress a 30-40 hour visual experience into something maybe 2 hours long. I can't possibly see how the movies could even hope to do the games any justice.

And for those saying that a movie based on events like oh say the FCW wouldn't be interesting because there couldn't possibly be enough drama/explosions. Really? You ever see District 9? I think the FCW would make a perfect setting given just how much Mass Effect is all about inter-species relations. To most of us the FCW is little more then a boring codex entry. But a movie could bring that obscure little background story to light. We could see why Turians and Humans aren't "best friends" and Humanity's first baby steps into the Galactic Universe. And it wouldn't really matter so much who they pick for the cast since this takes place long before the games so there is more freedom with who they can actually pick for whatever roles and you know maybe actually get some good actors.
[/quote]

You wrote so much without answering the question, it's amazing. Show me where you overthrew the argument posed, apart from moving possible personal experiences forward as viable reasons to cater movies to fans/not base them on established storylines...

I'm not saying FCW wouldn't be interesting, personally, I'd have even preferred it that way, but I'll be damned if I'll complain about an ME1 movie where Shepard is a polar opposite of mine in terms of morality, appearance, gender, romantic involvements etc. I won't even care.

And, if I won't care, but you, for whatever reasons, will, how is your outlook more... important or correct than mine? 

[quote]Bluko wrote... "I care because it goes against the whole premise of the game series. To me anyways the Mass Effect games have always sort of been a "make your own adventure".
[quote]

I bolded out the prime flaws in your argument. Your opinion =/= mine or anyone else's, games =/= movies.

Modifié par LGTX, 02 août 2011 - 06:14 .

[XyleJKH]

Movie is coming. Deal with it

[ianmcdonald]

On board with the idea or not, it's pretty dramatic and childish to be "upset" about a movie. It's just a movie.