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#126
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Oh, no. Companions is one of the major reasons I play Bioware games in the first place. And liked any of them better that The Witcher, thank you.

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I love the Witcher, and even I think this is a bad idea. I'd much rather a DA3 be more like DAO than anything close to the Witcher.

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The companion idea has been stomped so down in DA2 that the game is already getting closer to TW2 in that regard. Companions in DA2 are merely just string along self chatting dolls who aid the main character in combat. I don´t want that but for me it seems clearly so. TW2 has also party banter when someone is following the main character.

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Personally I'd rather improve the series than have it emulate an overrated pair of games that can't actually hold my interest for more than a couple of hours. I mean, for all of its flaws I've completed DA2 twice. The first Witcher took me 3 years to complete, in stops and starts. I put the sequel, which I purchased the day it was released, down after less than 3 hours and have yet to pick it up again. At this point, with the flashy, sparkly new Witcher game on my hard drive, I'm more interested in playing 7 year old games like Knights of the Old Republic and Vampire: The Masquerade, Bloodlines (now $5 on Steam, this weekend only!). Because they actually drag me into what's going on. The first Witcher was a poorly written mash-up of standard fantasy tropes seemingly written by 13-year old boys obsessed with boobs and blood and featured one of the worst combat systems in any RPG I've ever played (you could swear it was designed for consoles, although the game never came out on any). I had high hopes for the sequel, because it did look really shiny and they did a great job with their marketing videos, but as it turned out the combat was even more console-streamlined, the story was dull and flat and still seemed to be written by hormone ravaged tween boys, and now I'm lamenting the fact that I actually paid full price for a game that I'm not actually playing...

So no, please don't make the Dragon Age series like that.

Modifié par keginkc, 31 juillet 2011 - 03:09 .


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^ I got this impression from DA2, video game/hack´n slash awesomeness with omg-badass-moves. - minus the nudity -> OMG boobs! they will surely destroy mommas little boys morale (no matter that he is smashing people by the dozens with blood spraying to the roof).

Modifié par Ukki, 31 juillet 2011 - 03:12 .


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Ukki wrote...

The companion idea has been stomped so down in DA2 that the game is already getting closer to TW2 in that regard. Companions in DA2 are merely just string along self chatting dolls who aid the main character in combat. I don´t want that but for me it seems clearly so. TW2 has also party banter when someone is following the main character.


WUT?
Also: people who disliked the sex and nudity in TW2 are not verklemmt prudes - they just have issues with the drooling, desperatly horny way it was presented.

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keginkc wrote...

Personally I'd rather improve the series than have it emulate an overrated pair of games that can't actually hold my interest for more than a couple of hours. I mean, for all of its flaws I've completed DA2 twice. The first Witcher took me 3 years to complete, in stops and starts. I put the sequel, which I purchased the day it was released, down after less than 3 hours and have yet to pick it up again. At this point, with the flashy, sparkly new Witcher game on my hard drive, I'm more interested in playing 7 year old games like Knights of the Old Republic and Vampire: The Masquerade, Bloodlines (now $5 on Steam, this weekend only!). Because they actually drag me into what's going on. The first Witcher was a poorly written mash-up of standard fantasy tropes seemingly written by 13-year old boys obsessed with boobs and blood and featured one of the worst combat systems in any RPG I've ever played (you could swear it was designed for consoles, although the game never came out on any). I had high hopes for the sequel, because it did look really shiny and they did a great job with their marketing videos, but as it turned out the combat was even more console-streamlined, the story was dull and flat and still seemed to be written by hormone ravaged tween boys, and now I'm lamenting the fact that I actually paid full price for a game that I'm not actually playing...

So no, please don't make the Dragon Age series like that.

I am thinking the same way but guess what? about dragon fail 2 B)

Modifié par luki1234567, 31 juillet 2011 - 04:07 .


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Mash Mashington wrote...

I disliked the dorky combat (no, i actually absolutely hated DA:O combat, who am i kidding), the art style and the fact that i have a silent protagonist in a world where everybody else talks. It worked in BG and such games, but it was incredibly annoying since KotOR was out. And DA2 cast blows DA:O out of the water for me.

But if you like to call me weirdo please go on


Well yes, I'm with you on this    =)    and whenever I play another game than ME, ME2 or DA2 I often end up feeling a bit lonely so I would never ever want to be without companions in a BioWare game.  (I missed them in Arrival as well but that is for another forum   =)    )


So NO.... I want my Bioware games to stay Bioware     =)

Modifié par SilentK, 31 juillet 2011 - 04:07 .


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meteorswarm wrote...

Some deeply storytelling,one protagonist ,no companions and no teammates .The third person visual  is nearly the witcher 2 of course,better with the first person visual if it has.


No thanks, if you like that game so much what are you doing here?
I do not have any interest on playing a male character.

I like the companions, if they remove them the game gets streamiling... and I'll miss the Anders hit on me!, fenris hit on me! Zev hit on me! Alistair hit on me! posts :lol:

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SilentK wrote...

Mash Mashington wrote...

I disliked the dorky combat (no, i actually absolutely hated DA:O combat, who am i kidding), the art style and the fact that i have a silent protagonist in a world where everybody else talks. It worked in BG and such games, but it was incredibly annoying since KotOR was out. And DA2 cast blows DA:O out of the water for me.

But if you like to call me weirdo please go on


Well yes, I'm with you on this    =)    and whenever I play another game than ME, ME2 or DA2 I often end up feeling a bit lonely so I would never ever want to be without companions in a BioWare game.  (I missed them in Arrival as well but that is for another forum   =)    )


So NO.... I want my Bioware games to stay Bioware     =)

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DA 3 doesn't need to be another The witcher 2, what it need is a competent team of developers with brains and effort and love put into their work, much like Cd projeckt is, something that Bioware won't never, ever be

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rapunzel696 wrote...

Ukki wrote...

The companion idea has been stomped so down in DA2 that the game is already getting closer to TW2 in that regard. Companions in DA2 are merely just string along self chatting dolls who aid the main character in combat. I don´t want that but for me it seems clearly so. TW2 has also party banter when someone is following the main character.


WUT?
Also: people who disliked the sex and nudity in TW2 are not verklemmt prudes - they just have issues with the drooling, desperatly horny way it was presented.



Well think about it, what changes do your companions bring to the game besides their own little quests? Does it matter storywise if you choose Merrill or Carver? Does any of the companions have any impact on the story? The answer is none of them do. In a true rpg also the companions you choose affect in the outcome of the story since they each have their own agendas and stories. In DA2 there in none of this. You can play the game through without a single companion.
As for the sex, I had no problem with DAO nor TW2 way of doing it so for me either way is good. I just don´t like the idea about claiming sex scenes being for drooling teen boys since with that view you could also say that exploding bodies with blood gushing every direction is for serial killer wannabes. In adult world there is also nudity along with bloody corpses (if you want to put it that way). 

Modifié par Ukki, 31 juillet 2011 - 05:37 .


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Also: people who disliked the sex and nudity in TW2 are not verklemmt prudes - they just have issues with the drooling, desperatly horny way it was presented.


^this right here, people complaining about the sex scenes in TW 2 it's the proof that none of them actually played the game thru and through

except for the mildly first sex scene at the beggining of the game, NONE, NOT ONE SINGLE ONE of the sex scenes is mandatory nor thrown at your face, you can even DENY (as in a conversation choice) women giving you sex, so people complaining about the sex in TW 2 it's the most useless complaining about the game and proofs withouth a shadow of a doubt that these people haven't played the game whatsoever

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I would like DA 3 to follow TW and have more mini-games. I loved things in TW like fist fighting, dice poker, knife throwing etc.

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meteorswarm wrote...

Some deeply storytelling,one protagonist ,no companions and no teammates .The third person visual  is nearly the witcher 2 of course,better with the first person visual if it has.


I like Dragon Age as is with the companions. I want to see DA3 stay mostly with the mechanics of DA2 but with a more in depth story like DA:O.

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mordarwarlock wrote...

Also: people who disliked the sex and nudity in TW2 are not verklemmt prudes - they just have issues with the drooling, desperatly horny way it was presented.


^this right here, people complaining about the sex scenes in TW 2 it's the proof that none of them actually played the game thru and through

except for the mildly first sex scene at the beggining of the game, NONE, NOT ONE SINGLE ONE of the sex scenes is mandatory nor thrown at your face, you can even DENY (as in a conversation choice) women giving you sex, so people complaining about the sex in TW 2 it's the most useless complaining about the game and proofs withouth a shadow of a doubt that these people haven't played the game whatsoever


x2, spot on.

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afhdjs wrote...

I would like DA 3 to follow TW and have more mini-games. I loved things in TW like fist fighting, dice poker, knife throwing etc.


Kotor had mini-games.

I also want non-violent side-quests in DA3, like in Kotor, TW1 and TW2.

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Lenimph wrote...

No thanks. I don't like emotionless and fixed characters that talk as if they fell out of the Twilight series, period jokes and every other joke that pokes fun at the "softer" sex, unresponsive and almost mindless (wait for it...) button smashing combat that feel like a stunted Fable game, and last but not least, sequels that fill you in on hardly anything from that last game and don't even tell you the canon romance is a mage allergic to magic. NO THANKS.

The only things TW2 has that the Dragon Age series doesn't is fancy graphics and dynamic choices. Graphics are not that important enough for me to demand them as long as the game offers me entertainment in the writing and proper voice acting. DA2's graphics are just fine to me. I would like my choices in the Dragon Age games to matter a bit more, I can't deny that.

BTW just for the record: Nudity and Objectifying humor /=/ A game for the "mature" crowd.

  

Know I am not as harsh in  my critism of   The Witcher or  TW 2  I have happen the like the series.  I qouted this post of the sheer awesome  of the bolded statement

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Kotor had mini-games.



I also want non-violent side-quests in DA3, like in Kotor, TW1 and TW2.


I dunno, I quite enjoyed having to fight wave after wave after wave after wave after wave of paratroopers in every single quest. You didn't?

Modifié par alex90c, 31 juillet 2011 - 06:00 .


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nitefyre410 wrote...

BTW just for the record: Nudity and Objectifying humor /=/ A game for the "mature" crowd.

  

Know I am not as harsh in  my critism of   The Witcher or  TW 2  I have happen the like the series.  I qouted this post of the sheer awesome  of the bolded statement


Of course, TW2 is mature for different reasons.


alex90c wrote...

Kotor had mini-games.

I also want non-violent side-quests in DA3, like in Kotor, TW1 and TW2.


I
dunno, I quite enjoyed having to fight wave after wave after wave after
wave after wave of paratroopers in every single quest. You didn't?


Sure I did. Anything but making a quest where I and Hawke have to use our brains for a few seconds.
Plus, the waves are so vital to the story and setting that I don't feel we can ever have too much of them.

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

BTW just for the record: Nudity and Objectifying humor /=/ A game for the "mature" crowd.

  

Know I am not as harsh in  my critism of   The Witcher or  TW 2  I have happen the like the series.  I qouted this post of the sheer awesome  of the bolded statement


Of course, TW2 is mature for different reasons.


 

This is true as well - I just love fact that original qouted post took shots at those who things its mature because I  what was bold.

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alex90c wrote...

Kotor had mini-games.

I also want non-violent side-quests in DA3, like in Kotor, TW1 and TW2.


I
dunno, I quite enjoyed having to fight wave after wave after wave after
wave after wave of paratroopers in every single quest. You didn't?

Sure I did. Anything but making a quest where I and Hawke have to use our brains for a few seconds.
Plus, the waves are so vital to the story and setting that I don't feel we can ever have too much of them.

i love fighting waves of enemies exploding from sword swing. It's so refreshing ****ty designB)

Modifié par luki1234567, 31 juillet 2011 - 06:08 .


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why do so many people hate DA2?

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dragonfire100 wrote...

why do so many people hate DA2?


Why don't all people hate DA2?

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mordarwarlock wrote...

Also: people who disliked the sex and nudity in TW2 are not verklemmt prudes - they just have issues with the drooling, desperatly horny way it was presented.


^this right here, people complaining about the sex scenes in TW 2 it's the proof that none of them actually played the game thru and through

except for the mildly first sex scene at the beggining of the game, NONE, NOT ONE SINGLE ONE of the sex scenes is mandatory nor thrown at your face, you can even DENY (as in a conversation choice) women giving you sex, so people complaining about the sex in TW 2 it's the most useless complaining about the game and proofs withouth a shadow of a doubt that these people haven't played the game whatsoever


You are right! I stopped playing because I couldn't take it anymore :wizard:

Many people enjoyed The Witcher 2 and many people enjoyed Dragon Age 2. I think the developers of both games should continue to be creative and make unique, awesome games and not copy each other.