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[afhdjs]

I'd like to see more of TW's combat mechanics added into DA. Like I like the idea of instant kills (which is bound to happen in a real life fight with an opponent), and the ability to interact with objects like barrels (knock them over, destroy them) is interesting too.

[Uccio]

Bryy_Miller wrote...

luki1234567 wrote...
combat was brilliant, required thinking and tactics but i guess it's too much for some poeple...
Yeah Hawke swinging his two hand sword with a light speed is faaaaaar better lol

How does making combat faster "dumb it down"? 

Because it no longer follows the laws of physics?

Modifié par Ukki, 01 août 2011 - 06:56 .

[Teddie Sage]

Nudity isn't always appealing for some players. I'd add a toggle to allow us to put or remove clothes while we're having romance scenes.

[AudioEpics]

I don't even like the Witcher, so please no!

[Teddie Sage]

^ That.

Why should Dragon Age become more like The Witcher 2 anyway? It would lose even more its identity as a series. Unless you're only talking about the gameplay and not the lore or whatever.

[meteorswarm]

Oh,maybe I made a huge mistake.DA is DA,Witcher is Witcher.
I really hope DA3 will be epic.
Bioware,try your best to make it.

[Travie]

Teddie Sage wrote...

^ That.

Why should Dragon Age become more like The Witcher 2 anyway? It would lose even more its identity as a series. Unless you're only talking about the gameplay and not the lore or whatever.

Yes, DA3 should became a Witcher clone, including the lore.

Hawke is now a witcher.

Thats totally what everyone has been saying.

[Yuqi]

No, I like the choice of Female protaganists,and companions. In truth I HATE the witcher series..
DRAGON AGE, STAYS DRAGON AGE!!

If you want to play the witcher,go and play it. Leave DA alone..

[erynnar]

As the Arishok would say...no.

[TheSeeker33]

I'd like to have the graphics from The Witcher incorporated into DA, but that's highly unlikely. TW is suppose to be you all by yourself, because you're a Witcher, whereas the core concept of DA is having a party to fight with.

What I hope they put in DA is more difficult/more choices. Like when you need to decide if you want to go with Roche or Iorveth. You have a timer, so you have to choose quick. It's kind of mind blowing, thinking what path you're going down. And how they have 4 beginnings and 16 endings, that's something that should be put in DA.

[Malistix]

Dragon age 1 > The Witcher 1
Dragon age 2 < The Witcher 2

i think they just have to improve on dragon age 1, like the witcher improved from their first game GREATLY. also they should keep some of the changes to dragon age 2.

the problem is bioware making DA into MASS Effect more so then it becomming a witcher close, which would be bad asswell because the story of the witcher lents itself better for a Solo and Mature adventure.

[MagmaSaiyan]

i guess i get confused as of why people say DA is turning into ME. theres no guns no space type traveling, darkspawn and "reapers?" id say are bout the same(just by assumption), just cause we now have a talking pc and most likely will be the protagonist for a couple games doesnt really make it as a ME clone, games do grab ideas from other games to add to theres. and since they are both from bioware thats bound to happen..

on topic: just by what ive seen not really feeling da being a witcher, if they do that they just might loose a fan, and many others. then id be the one complaining that da went to hell

[luki1234567]

PresidentCowboy wrote...

luki1234567 wrote...

(If you killed the guy who will kill your mother  someone else will do this)

Um... wrong...

How is this any wrong? That's exactly what happens

Making combat faster is not dumbing down but decreasing number of skills and possible builds is dumbing down.
Enemies in da2 are weaker and appear in waves, eliminating sense of tactical positioning in combat. Tactics menu is also useless now. It's not working corectly.

[Sutekh]

luki1234567 wrote...

PresidentCowboy wrote...

luki1234567 wrote...

(If you killed the guy who will *spoiler*  someone else will do this)

Um... wrong...

How is this any wrong? That's exactly what happens

First, this is a non-spoiler forum.

Second, no that's not what happens, because you can't kill the killer before confronting him at the end of the quest, when you meet him for the first time. The guy you possibly kill first isn't the killer. It's made pretty clear in the game.

[luki1234567]

Sutekh wrote...

luki1234567 wrote...

PresidentCowboy wrote...

luki1234567 wrote...

(If you killed the guy who will *spoiler*  someone else will do this)

Um... wrong...

How is this any wrong? That's exactly what happens

First, this is a non-spoiler forum.

Second, no that's not what happens, because you can't kill the killer before confronting him at the end of the quest, when you meet him for the first time. The guy you possibly kill first isn't the killer. It's made pretty clear in the game.

If you don't kill him he will be killer and if you do someone else will be. end of the line that's what i call terrible design
I will replay it though because you two are making me worried  about it

Modifié par luki1234567, 01 août 2011 - 01:01 .

[Cyberstrike nTo]

luki1234567 wrote...

PresidentCowboy wrote...

luki1234567 wrote...

(If you killed the guy who will kill your mother  someone else will do this)

Um... wrong...

How is this any wrong? That's exactly what happens

Making combat faster is not dumbing down but decreasing number of skills and possible builds is dumbing down.
Enemies in da2 are weaker and appear in waves, eliminating sense of tactical positioning in combat. Tactics menu is also useless now. It's not working corectly.

Actually it depends on you play. I never used any tactics in Dragon Age: Origins but I sure did use them a LOT in Dragon Age II.

[luki1234567]

Cyberstrike nTo wrote...

luki1234567 wrote...

PresidentCowboy wrote...

luki1234567 wrote...

(If you killed the guy who will kill your mother  someone else will do this)

Um... wrong...

How is this any wrong? That's exactly what happens

Making combat faster is not dumbing down but decreasing number of skills and possible builds is dumbing down.
Enemies in da2 are weaker and appear in waves, eliminating sense of tactical positioning in combat. Tactics menu is also useless now. It's not working corectly.

Actually it depends on you play. I never used any tactics in Dragon Age: Origins but I sure did use them a LOT in Dragon Age II.

Believe me i was trying to use tactics in Da2 but it wasn't neccesary even on nightmare. I rarely even change character or view point. This game is not dragon age 2 but Dragon effect 2 : Hawke's adventure pack

[aftohsix]

 Don't get me wrong.  I recently went on a TW1 binge and played the opening of TW2 (I shelved it for the time being for a time when I can dedicate my time only to it so I can really enjoy it)

They're without a doubt great games.

I take issue with people wanting ALL games to be just like ALL other games.  Variety is the spice of life.  Without it the game industry stagnates and nobody wants that.

[Persephone]

Oh no, please no. I love both of these franchises and while CDPR did a damn good job with TW2, it lacked MANY things I get when playing Bioware RPGs. In depth personal experience. Relationships, and I'm not only referring to romances here. Dandelion, Zoltan etc. are way underdeveloped. And TW2 completely flopped in the romance department. Triss was no longer Triss and Fable III offered more (!) when it came to...er...random encounters. Those made me laugh at least. Shani was conveniently forgotten, even Triss seems to have airbrushed her. TW2's "Import" system is a joke compared to DAII's, despite DAII's Import system being buggy. I love party based combat. I prefer DA's lore to TW2's lore.

TW2 had glossy, shiny graphics. Neat. It also offered a complex, political plot (Albeit flawed) The supposed 16 endings...maybe I'm playing it wrong but I didn't encounter entirely unique endings in 4 playthroughs. What if you do not like Geralt? (I love him but not everyone does) There aren't all that many RPG features to mold his character. (TW1 did that better) Again, Fable III (!) offered more there. (Beat it twice in the past few days) 

Bioware is aware of TW2's positive reception. They are smart enough to take that into consideration. However, I would not want my fave RPG series to turn into a clone of another.

[luki1234567]

Persephone wrote...

Oh no, please no. I love both of these franchises and while CDPR did a damn good job with TW2, it lacked MANY things I get when playing Bioware RPGs. In depth personal experience. Relationships, and I'm not only referring to romances here. Dandelion, Zoltan etc. are way underdeveloped. And TW2 completely flopped in the romance department. Triss was no longer Triss and Fable III offered more (!) when it came to...er...random encounters. Those made me laugh at least. Shani was conveniently forgotten, even Triss seems to have airbrushed her. TW2's "Import" system is a joke compared to DAII's, despite DAII's Import system being buggy. I love party based combat. I prefer DA's lore to TW2's lore.

TW2 had glossy, shiny graphics. Neat. It also offered a complex, political plot (Albeit flawed) The supposed 16 endings...maybe I'm playing it wrong but I didn't encounter entirely unique endings in 4 playthroughs. What if you do not like Geralt? (I love him but not everyone does) There aren't all that many RPG features to mold his character. (TW1 did that better) Again, Fable III (!) offered more there. (Beat it twice in the past few days) 

Bioware is aware of TW2's positive reception. They are smart enough to take that into consideration. However, I would not want my fave RPG series to turn into a clone of another.

Zoltan and dandellion are books character and there is nothing underdeveloped about them. Romances in  TW2 are not good but who cares? Those in da2 lack many things also. In fact i found them preety bland (especially female ones )
Both import system are jokes since they have similiar impact on the game which means pretty none ( though in both we can find nice touches)

[aftohsix]

luki1234567 wrote...

Zoltan and dandellion are books character and there is nothing underdeveloped about them. Romances in  TW2 are not good but who cares? Those in da2 lack many things also. In fact i found them preety bland (especially female ones )
Both import system are jokes since they have similiar impact on the game which means pretty none ( though in both we can find nice touches)

What she's getting at is that they're underdevloped in the game if you haven't read the books.  It was a criticism I picked out when I played through TW1.  Many of the characters you encounter in that game are straight up shout outs to people who are huge fans of the books and if you haven't read them you're asking "Who is this dwarf and why is he saying we're such good friends?"

[luki1234567]

aftohsix wrote...

luki1234567 wrote...

Zoltan and dandellion are books character and there is nothing underdeveloped about them. Romances in  TW2 are not good but who cares? Those in da2 lack many things also. In fact i found them preety bland (especially female ones )
Both import system are jokes since they have similiar impact on the game which means pretty none ( though in both we can find nice touches)

What she's getting at is that they're underdevloped in the game if you haven't read the books.  It was a criticism I picked out when I played through TW1.  Many of the characters you encounter in that game are straight up shout outs to people who are huge fans of the books and if you haven't read them you're asking "Who is this dwarf and why is he saying we're such good friends?"

Well since i have read the books i had rather warm feeling of meeting old good friends:happy: Well in TW2 I can even agree but in tw1 they can tell you many things about them during game so i disagree

Modifié par luki1234567, 01 août 2011 - 03:52 .

[Tirfan]

^ I actually didn't have any of those problems, and I didn't even play TW1 or read the books, I thought Zoltan & Dandelion were amazing characters, and ones I really related to ( but that may be the fact that they drink vodka, I can't dislike anyone who drinks vodka, vodka is so very good.)

I had more of "Why do these random people keep following the PC around"-problem in DA2.

[Sutekh]

luki1234567 wrote...

Zoltan and dandellion are books character and there is nothing underdeveloped about them.

I haven't read the books. Why should I care they are developped there? The games should be self-sufficient in that regard.

Both import system are jokes since they have similiar impact on the game which means pretty none ( though in both we can find nice touches)

There's one major difference, though. In one, you play a different character, so the import system not having that much impact isn't as important as when you transfer the very same char from one game to its sequel. I'm sorry, but as much as I like TW2 (and I do), the import failure is indefensible. That they couldn't deal with the choices we made in TW1 is one thing, that they forced on us choices we possibly never made (Triss) without giving us the slightest justification is bad writing right there.

[luki1234567]

Sutekh wrote...

luki1234567 wrote...

Zoltan and dandellion are books character and there is nothing underdeveloped about them.

I haven't read the books. Why should I care they are developped there? The games should be self-sufficient in that regard.

Both import system are jokes since they have similiar impact on the game which means pretty none ( though in both we can find nice touches)

There's one major difference, though. In one, you play a different character, so the import system not having that much impact isn't as important as when you transfer the very same char from one game to its sequel. I'm sorry, but as much as I like TW2 (and I do), the import failure is indefensible. That they couldn't deal with the choices we made in TW1 is one thing, that they forced on us choices we possibly never made (Triss) without giving us the slightest justification is bad writing right there.

In tw1 they can tell you many things (though in tw2 they don;t) Srsly shani couldn't be in TW2 since she has written story to the end in the books. (developers said that they remeber about her dunno how they are going to solve that)