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[TEWR]

look at my sig.


That's only one of the people I felt attached to. Varric, Aveline, Isabela, and the siblings are the others. But Merrill was the one I loved the most.


which doesn't mean I didn't like the others. I did. But there were things I wanted to say to them that I couldn't.

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 30 juillet 2011 - 05:50 .

[Tirfan]

Well, it is not as if anyone doesn't know my stance on this - The Warden was my character, I had a boatloads of emotional investment in him vs. Biowares purple Garret Hawke, who isn't a character at all.

In terms of companions, DA:Os cast wasn't that great but.. Morrigan, there was Morrigan, and the rest of companion characters were decent enough too, Sten was really nice.

Varric is the only halfways decent companion character in DA2. Others are just annoying and.. well, boring.

[MorrigansLove]

Nope, noone in Dragon Age 2 captured my attention as much as the Origins companions. I will always remember the first time I met Alistair + Morrigan, but I seriously cannot, for the life of me, remember where I met Fenris.

He was a depressing, sycophant of a character anyway so I couldn't care less

Modifié par MorrigansLove, 30 juillet 2011 - 06:28 .

[whykikyouwhy]

I felt attached to my Warden in some ways - I felt that some of the choices made in-game were more varied, therefore it lent to a broader feeling of role-playing. However, I also felt attached to Hawke. I understood her motivation more, and I enjoyed some of her dialogue (I won't dive into the whole voiced vs silent protagonist argument).

So too, I felt much more attached to the DA2 companions than I did to those in DA:O. In the latter, I really enjoyed Morrigan, Leliana and Shale, but not so much the others (or rather, the others to a far lesser degree). But I was very much drawn in by Isabela, Varric, Aveline and the whole lot in DA2 - they felt much more real and fleshed out.

[TheBlackBaron]

Frankly, Morrigan alone probably puts the DA:O cast about the DA2 cast for me. Throw in Alistair too. Once we get beyond that top tier, however, I feel like both games had the same mix of characters that I liked and disliked and thus felt attachement to. 

Modifié par TheBlackBaron, 30 juillet 2011 - 06:33 .

[Merci357]

For me, Varric was far more likeable then any DA:O companion. But that's about it.

[Zjarcal]

I was just as attached to the DA2 cast as I was to the DAO cast.

In fact, taking the entire cast into consideration, I was slightly more attached to the DA2 one (but just slightly). Overall, I love them both to pieces.

[KnightofPhoenix]

I was only attached to 2 companions in DA2, and was indifferent to the rest except one (for me, a character that makes me indifferent is not a good one).
While I was attached to more or less all DA:O companions, and was indifferent to only one.

[Nerdage]

DA2's cast was more of a mixed bag for me, but I like that. I 'liked' pretty much all the DAO cast, they were largely pretty agreeable, but the DA2 cast seemed more diverse; some of them I absolutely love, some I'd like to do away with (only secretly though).

But the select characters I'm really attached to from both games.. I wouldn't put one group above the other.

As for the PCs, that's swings and roundabouts really. I 'liked' Hawke more, but I find the warden more interesting, and I'm attached to both about the same.

[namedforthemoon]

I think Ser Jory had more depth than the characters in DA2.

[DahliaLynn]

I felt like the Warden was me hence my attachment to the characters was deeper felt regardless if I liked them or not, I felt something for each. I felt like Hawke, was ...her (in my case) , and all attachments were experienced by her as opposed to me, hence less attachment to the characters overall. This doesn't mean I didn't like or dislike them. I only felt less for them in either direction because frankly, I had less of an opportunity to get to know them, as dialogue options were sparce, and watching hawke talk didn't help either.

Legacy actually remedied that partially as I felt I was with one party, and all were involved in the same quest together  all having input contributing to the feeling of experiencing one adventure together.

Modifié par DahliaLynn, 30 juillet 2011 - 06:54 .

[Annihilator27]

I was more attached to them.Fun group of people.I love the companions in the 1st game as well.

[jlb524]

I felt more attachment in DA2.

In DA:O, I felt attachment to my Warden, Leliana, Morrigan, Zevran and that's about it. I couldn't stand Alistair or Oghren and the rest were kinda 'meh'.

[syllogi]

I think I cared for the DA2 party members a bit more than the ones in DA:O, but I liked my Warden more than Hawke. That's more about my own roleplaying, though, and feeling more constricted by the spoken dialogue. I still like the DA:O story, but I would have liked more in depth development of my party member's stories, and I prefer the friendship/rivalry system of the second game.

Basically, I like making up stories for my player character, but I like the extra backstory given to the party members in DA2.

[alex90c]

I found practically every single character in DA2 an absolute ******. I don't like having extremes shoved down my throat with Little Miss Blood Mage, MAGE FREEDOM, I HATE MAGES and I LOVE SEX constantly getting thrown in my face with little else to them.

Plus Hawke is a **** so I can't even play the game solo as the PC annoys me too

Modifié par alex90c, 30 juillet 2011 - 07:03 .

[csfteeeer]

i Did not care for any of the bunch of DipS**ts in DA2, with the exception of Varric and Isabela.
It's not that i hated them but i just didn't care, with the exception of Anders and Fenris.
F**k i hate them.

i cared for most of them in DAO, with the exception of Wynne.

EDIT: if anybody cares, there's a poll asking something similar Here

Modifié par csfteeeer, 30 juillet 2011 - 07:52 .

[Giltspur]

I felt more of an "emotional attachment" to Morrigan, Alistair and Zevran than the NPC's in DA2.  But it might be a matter of personal taste on my part as opposed to anything regardng the game's approach the NPC's.  I for example like Isabela, Varric and Merrill a lot as well.  Not quite to the same degree as my DAO faves but better than some of the other DAO characters, all of whom I liked as well.  In general, I like all of the companion NPC's in both DAO and DA2, but, if I had to rank them, it'd be 1) Morrigan 2) Alistair 3) Zevran 4) Isabela 5) Varric 6) Merrill 7) Leliana 8) Aveline and so forth.  (Cutting it off at 8 as I don't want it to be clear who's in last place. .)

I do miss being able to initate conversations as in DAO, but I also thought the companion side quests in DA2 were better than the ones in DAO (by quite a lot, actually).  I thought the party banter in both games was great.  I think perhaps DA2's is more consistently good and seems to trigger in a better manner.  Though I think some of DAO's highlights are hard to beat.  It's hard to really say one is better than the other overall when it comes to banter.

Now, as for Hawke vs. Warden.  I definitely felt more attached to my Wardens than to my Hawkes.  I'm not sure why that is.  A lot of people assume it's the voice over or the paraphrasing.  Well, I do think a bad paraphrase  can hurt things, and that does happen in DA2.  Hearing someone else's voice doesn't really bother me.  Some say that isn't the voice they imagine.  I sort of go  to that.  I hear Hawke's voice at the start of the game.  So that's the voice I imagine.  It's not like I imagine my Grey Warden as a cow or an anteater or a Tevinter slaver or a Qunari.  He's a Grey Warden that's human, elven or dwarven.  These characters aren't made from scratch even when role-playing.  So for me, having a set voice is fair game so long as other stuff is customizable.  I know others disagree.

I think the reason I feel less connected to Hawke than Warden is that he has fewer tough decisions that make me think about and decide what he's like.  I think it's making decisions about a character that force me to "write" a character in my mind.  I think.  I'm not sure, but I think it's that.  Decisions like the Dark Ritual and the Architect's Plan all forced me to think about what my character was like.  But other decisions had an impact as well from things as simple as the Lothering Bandits (in a moment of mercy I didn't take their stolen gold and then I felt like an idiot when I saw their victims, without their gold) to other things like the romantic subplots (softening Morrigan) and deciding what to say to companions during the epilogue (because those conversations had an impact on the way my Warden would depart). With my favorite Warden, for example, he ended up content to see most of his party had their lives in order but still took Zevran and the Dog with him in search of Morrigan.  It would have felt wrong to take anyone else away from their new lives.  Forsaking congratulations for the company of an assassin and a dog in search of something unattainable seemed like a great finale for my Warden's DAO.

In DA2, the most interesting moment in regards to character identification/immersion was the Twilight Zone moment.  That was where I was playing a female Hawke and had started with the assumption I was going to romance Anders.  Of course, my female Hawke was aggressive and sarcastic.  And then after encountering Anders's emotional heaviness she felt--well, like she wanted something different.  She didn't want to wear all black and raccoon makeup while weepy Anders wrote poetry about her.  Then it hit me:  I'm Anders.  And I'm playing a woman that's rejecting Anders.  Disturbing.  

At any rate, it seems my attachment to my characters is a result of character individuation through decisions I've made, and my favorite decisions have been moral dilemmas related to the story or conversation choices in the romantic subplots.  Unfortunately the heart option and the seeming overeliance on maxing friend or rival probably doesn't help the DA2 romances.

Modifié par Giltspur, 30 juillet 2011 - 07:25 .

[Cutlasskiwi]

I felt more attached to the characters in DA2 including Hawke, much more. I only really cared about Sten and Shale in DAO and they were not the most developed characters. But I never really cared about the Warden either since I could never play her the way I wanted to.

[jwalker]

In DA:O,  Leli and Shale.
DA2: Merrill, Isa, Varric, Fenris, Aveline, Bethany....

In DA:O it was easy to pick up a full party. In DA2, it's always hard because I want all the ones I like

[Apollo Starflare]

Nah, I felt much more attached to my DA2 crew than the Origins brigade.

That isn't to say I didn't feel attached to the DAO bunch, quite the contrary I love them to bits, but for me the companion characters in DA2 were one area which BioWare got oh so right. It was perhaps the one part of the game that truly felt like it one upped it's predecessor completely.

That said, Sten remains in my top three favourite ever BioWare companions so it isn't a whitewash. But then the other two are Varric and Merrill.

[errant_knight]

While there were a couple of companions that I liked fairly well in DA2, I didn't come close to feeling as connected to them or caring about them as much. They were acquaintances, business relationships, or people who stuck around for no apparent reason, whereas the DA:O companions, well there was just a whole lot more to them and the relationships.