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Did any one else not feel attached to any characters in da2 compared to da1


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Mash Mashington wrote...

I was not really attached to DA:O characters


The only main Origins characters I was attached to were Oghren, Shale, Anders, Finn, and Adriane. They were the only ones with personality.

Oddly enough, I was very much attached to both Leliana and Alistair in DA2. 

In DA2, the only main characters I was attached to were Varric, Merrill, and Anders.

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DahliaLynn wrote...

I felt like the Warden was me hence my attachment to the characters was deeper felt regardless if I liked them or not, I felt something for each. I felt like Hawke, was ...her (in my case) , and all attachments were experienced by her as opposed to me, hence less attachment to the characters overall. This doesn't mean I didn't like or dislike them. I only felt less for them in either direction because frankly, I had less of an opportunity to get to know them, as dialogue options were sparce, and watching hawke talk didn't help either.

Legacy actually remedied that partially as I felt I was with one party, and all were involved in the same quest together  all having input contributing to the feeling of experiencing one adventure together.


This is how I felt too, almost exactly. ^_^

For me, I would also add that in DA2 a higher percentage of the characters evoked frustration from me, rather than affection.

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Nope, noone in Dragon Age 2 captured my attention as much as the Origins companions. I will always remember the first time I met Alistair + Morrigan, but I seriously cannot, for the life of me, remember where I met Fenris.

He was a depressing, sycophant of a character anyway so I couldn't care less


Completely agree.  I found him the worst of the companions (hence my sig).  I didn't mind killing him at the end (I didn't see the body but I like to think he stayed dead).

I felt something for Hawke though, but the interchangeable siblings, the family deaths and not being able to influence much of anything really takes a lot out of that.

I never cared for Carver or Bethany since the game makes it clear it doesn't really matter which one of them survives and I never found them that interesting when they were around.  As for the rest I never really got that into them, but the only ones that annoy me are Anders and Sebastian (who wasn't worth downloading).

Now while I did like the Origins companions more I did find Morrigan to be a pain in the backside when it came to one on one conversations.  She never gave an answer I could trust and most things said were either maybe, maybe not or an excuse for why she's selfish and childish (much like her mother, but with less riddles).  It just made me feel that the game was just building up the whole Morrigan/Flemeth angle with no substance or answers to back it up.

I still like her better than most DA2 characters though.

Modifié par Reidbynature, 30 juillet 2011 - 07:47 .


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I like most the Dragon Age characters (Origins and DA2) at about the same success rate in both games.

In fact, I often say I play Dragon Age games for the characters and Mass Effect games for the setting. That's a simplification, but for the purposes of this thread it works.

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I liked Aveline, Varric and Isabela quite a lot. Bethany was a bit too anonymous while the rest (Anders, Fenris, Merrill, Carver) felt into the 'Sparta kick from high orbit' category.

Modifié par Fleapants, 30 juillet 2011 - 08:16 .


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I never end up caring much about Bioware protagonists, as I have yet to make an honest attempt at roleplaying. That said, I do care about many of the companions Bioware has introduced me to over the years. I grew to like all of the DA:O companions. Oh, except for Oghren of course. It's much the same in DA2, though now the only character I can't really stand is Anders. But I'm working on it. He's a lot more likeable with a face mod.

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lazuli wrote...

 Oh, except for Oghren of course.


It will never cease to amaze me how many people dislike Oghren.  He's not just a series of fart jokes.  He's an incredibly tragic figure, something DAA makes very very clear.  But I'm not sure this is the time or place to mount such a defense of Oghren.

lazuli wrote...

[Anders is] a lot more likeable with a face mod.


Wat

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Upsettingshorts wrote...
It will never cease to amaze me how many people dislike Oghren.  He's not just a series of fart jokes.  He's an incredibly tragic figure, something DAA makes very very clear.  But I'm not sure this is the time or place to mount such a defense of Oghren.


I understand the delicious tragedy of Oghren's alcoholism and abandonment.  It would be enough to make me like him if he weren't forced upon me with a terrible two-handed build in one of the more extended battles in the game.  That's really what it all boils down to for me.

lazuli wrote...

[Anders is] a lot more likeable with a face mod.


Wat


Without modding his face he looks like a weasel.  Or Keanu Reeves.  Yugh.

Modifié par lazuli, 30 juillet 2011 - 08:06 .


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i adored both casts, but da2's cast felt much more fleshed out because they actually developed relationships with each other and had lives and hobbies and interests outside of hawke. which is to be expected, given the more personal scope of da2 vs dao. dao's characters were wonderfully-written and really enjoyable, but they felt so static compared to da2.

as far as hawke vs warden, oh my god no contest. sarcastic male hawke is most adorable little ****. i know a lot of people prefer crafting their own characters from scratch, but i'd rather listen to nic boulton be brilliant any day of the week. i could create a warden with a similarly ridiculous personality if i wanted, sure, but watching it actually play out on screen is so much more satisfying.

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lazuli wrote...

I understand the delicious tragedy of Oghren's alcoholism and abandonment.  It would be enough to make me like him if he weren't forced upon me with a terrible two-handed build in one of the more extended battles in the game.  That's really what it all boils down to for me.

...really?

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Not at all. Both casts are awesome and I love every one of my companions (with one notable exception, but I'm glad to have her along anyway).

lazuli wrote...


Without modding his face he looks like a weasel.  Or Keanu Reeves.  Yugh.



LIES! Lies and slander! :crying:

Modifié par Queen-Of-Stuff, 30 juillet 2011 - 08:14 .


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If there is one thing I definitely love about Dragon Age, then it is its characters. They are rich and colourful. I thought that both Origins and DA2 had their share of good characters. In Origins I liked Leliana, Shale, Sten & Wynne. In Dragon Age 2 I liked Merrill, Aveline, Varric, Bethany etc. etc. All in all, I care for a lot of the characters in both games. I think they both have their share of a great cast. =)

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Without modding his face he looks like a weasel. Or Keanu Reeves. Yugh.


Too bad modding can't stop him from being a whiny little tosser.

I don't even care that his personality change is justified, his mage freedom crap just annoys the hell out of me.

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Not really. Quite the opposite, in fact. Much as I loved the DA1 cast, I felt far more attached to the DA2 rabble. Perhaps more importantly, I felt attached to characters that didn't fill a regular party slot (Varric mostly, but also Fenris and Aveline) which isn't something Origins really replicated. Folk like Zevran or Sten were enjoyable, but largely just... there.

As far as my character goes, shrug. About the same as each other.

Modifié par bleetman, 30 juillet 2011 - 08:15 .


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ademska wrote...

lazuli wrote...

I understand the delicious tragedy of Oghren's alcoholism and abandonment.  It would be enough to make me like him if he weren't forced upon me with a terrible two-handed build in one of the more extended battles in the game.  That's really what it all boils down to for me.

...really?


Yup.  Combat is what kept me coming back to DA:O, flawed as it was.  I don't like when the game dictates my builds.  And yeah, I could re-spec him with a mod.  But by the time I get Oghren I've already built a solid warrior into my party, be it Alistair, Sten, or the Warden.

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@TheChris92.

I feel the same way :-).

In both games there are some characters I don't have any particular affection for, and also in both games there are several that I have felt a connection with and love. Both DAO and DA2 have great and unique characters :-). My favs in DAO are; Leliana, Sten, Alistair and Wynne and in DA2; Merrill, Anders, Aveline, Varric and Isabela :-).

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lazuli wrote...

Yup.  Combat is what kept me coming back to DA:O, flawed as it was.  I don't like when the game dictates my builds.  And yeah, I could re-spec him with a mod.  But by the time I get Oghren I've already built a solid warrior into my party, be it Alistair, Sten, or the Warden.

no, i'm not disputing his ****ty build. i'm just baffled that a single battle keeps you from enjoying a character in a game the strength of which is its characters. like, you actually list oghren as a character you dislike, and it's rooted entirely in his battle specs and not his writing?

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Without modding his face he looks like a weasel. Or Keanu Reeves. Yugh.



Which Anders. PC Awakening Anders? Console Awakening Anders? Or DA2 Anders?


Because Console Awakening Anders and PC Awakening Anders were two totally different looking characters, with console version being nicer to look at.

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ademska wrote...
no, i'm not disputing his ****ty build. i'm just baffled that a single battle keeps you from enjoying a character in a game the strength of which is its characters. like, you actually list oghren as a character you dislike, and it's rooted entirely in his battle specs and not his writing?


Yes.  I agree that the strength of DA:O is its characters and, to a lesser extent, its story.  As I do not roleplay, I only get so much from the characters and story.  I usually get as much as I'm going to get from characters/story at about halfway through my second character.  So strange as it may sound, combat is more important to me in the long run.

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The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Without modding his face he looks like a weasel. Or Keanu Reeves. Yugh.



Which Anders. PC Awakening Anders? Console Awakening Anders? Or DA2 Anders?


Because Console Awakening Anders and PC Awakening Anders were two totally different looking characters, with console version being nicer to look at.


I'm talking about DA2 Anders.  I thought he looked fine in PC Awakening.

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The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

with console version being nicer to look at.

hell boy what you talkin about

there be some CRAZY ASS **** in this thread

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ippykins don't play this game, don't you know about the golden ratio

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The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Without modding his face he looks like a weasel. Or Keanu Reeves. Yugh.



Which Anders. PC Awakening Anders? Console Awakening Anders? Or DA2 Anders?

Because Console Awakening Anders and PC Awakening Anders were two totally different looking characters, with console version being nicer to look at.


You're wrong. *flamewars you to death with my holy opinion wich is made of indisputable facts because I say so*

:P

Seriously, though, I find console Anders really meh (Great, now we have THREE different official versions of the guy)

To answer the original question: No. I felt attached to all of them. Even Sebastian (The "bunny cloud "comment is what won me for the latter), and I felt attached to all DAO companions except Wynne whom I absolutely can't stand. And Justice, who was too psycho-rigid for my taste (yeah, I know, he ought to be, doesn't mean I have to like him).

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How anyone can actually like Anders is beyond me. He's whiny, he's a failure at romance and, to top it all off, he's a ****ing terrorist.

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The "bunny cloud "comment is what won me for the latter



With Merrill in the party, that comment is amazing.