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[Homebound]

if YOU had the power to re-write physics, wouldnt you?

[Bazedragon]

Hellbound, Hell yes.

[SalsaDMA]

Praetor Shepard wrote...

Sgt Stryker wrote...

If you're looking for the elusive derp particle, you're definitely searching in the right place! 

herp derp is at my finger tips! 

Certainly one of the better artworks from the cardgame it was made for.
Wouldn't mind Bioware picking up that brand to make a game of. Certainly alot of potential for 'awesome buttons' in it. And who wouldn't love a game of what could translate into 'Jade empire' meets 'dragon age' meets 'mass effect' meets 'deus ex' meets 'big trouble in little china' meets 'planets of the apes'.

[SandTrout]

SalsaDMA wrote...

Certainly one of the better artworks from the cardgame it was made for.
Wouldn't mind Bioware picking up that brand to make a game of. Certainly alot of potential for 'awesome buttons' in it. And who wouldn't love a game of what could translate into 'Jade empire' meets 'dragon age' meets 'mass effect' meets 'deus ex' meets 'big trouble in little china' meets 'planets of the apes'.

To be perfectly honest, that sounds like something that belongs in the 'Abominations' thread...

[Skirata129]

S.A.K wrote...

Skirata129 wrote...

S.A.K wrote...

bucyrus5000 wrote...

what freaked me out was the 1st time I fly through a sun. BW has teh fysx tyd dwn yo. lol got to love the planets orbiting half in stars.

Well, what we look at when we fly the normany is the hologram the captain uses. Its not a real star. Also I think joker flyes the Normandy after shepard selects a destination. This also explains the braking. That is just how the glaxy map software works and not the real Normandy.

so you're telling me that if I fly my simulaton in circles before landing, Joker will do the EXACT same thing during the flight, and if my "simulation" runs out of fuel, EDI embezzles my minerals and sells them on the black market to pay for her extranet porn addiction?

Buddy I think you missed the part I highlighted.

No, because that doesn't account for needing fuel. Either our pilot is an idiot who believes that If I write my name in the sky before landing on  the Citadel on our simulator, he must do the same, or SOMEBODY is stealing my resources.

[SalsaDMA]

SandTrout wrote...

SalsaDMA wrote...

Certainly one of the better artworks from the cardgame it was made for.
Wouldn't mind Bioware picking up that brand to make a game of. Certainly alot of potential for 'awesome buttons' in it. And who wouldn't love a game of what could translate into 'Jade empire' meets 'dragon age' meets 'mass effect' meets 'deus ex' meets 'big trouble in little china' meets 'planets of the apes'.

To be perfectly honest, that sounds like something that belongs in the 'Abominations' thread...

Well, the game do have creatures that are actually called 'abominations' so....

(lorewise abominations in that game are demons from the past pulled to the future and then having been subjected to various magic-scientific experiments which turn them into the 'things' that gameplaywise are called abominations)

[SalsaDMA]

Skirata129 wrote...

No, because that doesn't account for needing fuel. Either our pilot is an idiot who believes that If I write my name in the sky before landing on  the Citadel on our simulator, he must do the same, or SOMEBODY is stealing my resources.

It's EDI. Secretly she is setting aside funds for the "AI's Front of Liberation"

[didymos1120]

Jayce F wrote...
Lore Answer: The eezo core consumes a hydrogen/eezo fuel mixture during FTL and if the regular fuel runs out, it has to consume pure eezo from your stockpiles. But the core only uses relatively minute amounts to accelerate or decelerate within star systems.

Why is this notion so damn persistent?  Eezo is NOT fuel.  You don't burn it.  You don't consume it. It doesn't run out.  It does not chemically react with anything.  It sits there in the ME core, waiting for you to run a current through it.  When you do, you get an ME field, which you can then put to various uses.  That's it.  That's all the eezo on your starship does. 

Modifié par didymos1120, 31 juillet 2011 - 10:50 .

[S.A.K]

Skirata129 wrote...

S.A.K wrote...

Skirata129 wrote...

S.A.K wrote...

bucyrus5000 wrote...

what freaked me out was the 1st time I fly through a sun. BW has teh fysx tyd dwn yo. lol got to love the planets orbiting half in stars.

Well, what we look at when we fly the normany is the hologram the captain uses. Its not a real star. Also I think joker flyes the Normandy after shepard selects a destination. This also explains the braking. That is just how the glaxy map software works and not the real Normandy.

so you're telling me that if I fly my simulaton in circles before landing, Joker will do the EXACT same thing during the flight, and if my "simulation" runs out of fuel, EDI embezzles my minerals and sells them on the black market to pay for her extranet porn addiction?

Buddy I think you missed the part I highlighted.

No, because that doesn't account for needing fuel. Either our pilot is an idiot who believes that If I write my name in the sky before landing on  the Citadel on our simulator, he must do the same, or SOMEBODY is stealing my resources.

Why are you giving this so much thought? If you don't like the game mechanics, don't play it. Simple!

[Bazedragon]

The fuel used in the game is a mixture of hydrogen and oxygen, Eezo is only present on starships in weapons, biotics, storage canisters for whatever upgrades Shep wants to do, and the Eezo drive core.

You'd be a fool to use one of the most expensive materials in the galaxy as a propellent. You'd forever have quarians in your wake.

[Gabey5]

this is SCIENCE FICTION!

it doesn't have to make sense

[the-algebraist]

I'd just like to take the time to point out that it's perfectly possible to bank in an vacuum, and in the absence of friction. If you very close attention to the animation of the Normandy, the micro adjustments of it's engine thrust and direction - for instance when joker tries to compensate when the Normandy is jump by the collector vessel at the start - you'll see that the ship has all the facilities it needs to execute a bank in space! Add to that the very small manoeuvring thrusters positioned at all lengths of the ship - viewable during some docking sequences - it's not in breach of the laws of physics at all!

[Bazedragon]

Gabey5 wrote...

this is science FICTION!

it doesn't have to make sense

Fixed. Slightly.

[JPfanner]

didymos1120 wrote...

Jayce F wrote...
Lore Answer: The eezo core consumes a hydrogen/eezo fuel mixture during FTL and if the regular fuel runs out, it has to consume pure eezo from your stockpiles. But the core only uses relatively minute amounts to accelerate or decelerate within star systems.

Why is this notion so damn persistent?  Eezo is NOT fuel.  You don't burn it.  You don't consume it. It doesn't run out.  It does not chemically react with anything.  It sits there in the ME core, waiting for you to run a current through it.  When you do, you get an ME field, which you can then put to various uses.  That's it.  That's all the eezo on your starship does. 

It is also why you can always mine element zero at the site of any ship crash in planet scanning.  Which I've always found to be a nice touch.

Even in biotics, the element zero isn't consumed.  It is just integrated into persistant nodules that would still be there after the death of the biotic.  It is passed through the system of Red Sand users, which raises some questions on whether there is a market for, uh, recycling.  Asari terraforming probably involves seeding element zero into select areas as well, since while they might be naturally biotic because of evolving on Thessia's element zero environment, they would still need to take in element zero to actualize that potential.

[Candidate 88766]

This is a pretty minor thing to get worked up about, but here is an answer anyway:

The Normandy generally travels at FTL speeds even in systems, otherwise it would take hours or even days to travel from planet to planet instead of just a few minutes. The fuel expended isn't to keep the velocity of the ship constant, it is to keep the element zero core working. Once it has accelerated it won't need to expend fuel to keep that velocity. However, the element zero core has to be constantly working to keep the ship's mass at a level where FTL speeds are feasible, and so even if the ship's engines are off and the ship is in effect gliding, the element zero core will still be expending fuel. That isn't to say that the core is burning eezo. It is burning through fuel to keep it working and enabling it to use eezo. Without fuel feeding into it, the core wouldn't be able to do anything with the ship's eezo supply.

At least, that's my take on it.

Modifié par Candidate 88766, 31 juillet 2011 - 11:38 .

[sael_feman]

It was problomatic in ME2 that the Normandy SR2 could fly through suns, or that it wasn't affected by gravity fields.

It would be difficult if The Normandy was true to life however, ships in space that burn fuel to accelerate must burn the same amount of fuel to decelerate, it would be a bit complicated in a fun console/ pc game.

[DRSH]

I dismiss real physics & replace it for Mass Effect's physics. There problem solved!

[S.A.K]

Arcian wrote...

sael_feman wrote...

It was problomatic in ME2 that the Normandy SR2 could fly through suns, or that it wasn't affected by gravity fields.

It would be difficult if The Normandy was true to life however, ships in space that burn fuel to accelerate must burn the same amount of fuel to decelerate, it would be a bit complicated in a fun console/ pc game.

This would be true for ships using conventional thrusters only. Because of how FTL mechanics works, it does not apply to the ships with FTL engines engaged.

Have to disagree on that Arcian. Normany uses 4 anti-matter thrusters. So they will take same amout of fuel to decelerate. But I guess BW can't get everything right. Personally I like the ME1s galaxy map system if it shows us which planets we already visited.

[-Skorpious-]

Mass Effect 2's galaxy map sucked - Shepard vroom vrooming with a mini Normandy model was ridiculous, fuel was cheap and easy to come by (thus cheapening the concept of having to manage resources), scanning was mindbogglingly dull, the actual models of the planets were ugly 3D "basketballs" compared to ME's beautiful vistas and the descriptions for the ME2 planets lacked the scientific flair of ME's planetary summaries.

Bit off topic, I know, but ME's galaxy map is one of the things I desperately want included in ME3.

Modifié par -Skorpious-, 31 juillet 2011 - 12:36 .

[didymos1120]

S.A.K wrote...

But I guess BW can't get everything right.

This assumes that the Galaxy Map is actually supposed to be some sort of accurate spaceflight sim.  It's not.  I'm not a huge fan of the ME2 map, but it's got nothing to do with being disappointed by its lack of accuracy because it's extremely obvious they weren't even aiming for that.

Modifié par didymos1120, 31 juillet 2011 - 12:27 .

[didymos1120]

Arcian wrote...

sael_feman wrote...
It would be difficult if The Normandy was true to life however, ships in space that burn fuel to accelerate must burn the same amount of fuel to decelerate, it would be a bit complicated in a fun console/ pc game.

This would be true for ships using conventional thrusters only. Because of how FTL mechanics works, it does not apply to the ships with FTL engines engaged.

Not according to the Codex:

Any long-duration interstellar flight consists of two phases: acceleration and deceleration. Starships accelerate to the half-way point of their journey, then flip 180 degrees and apply thrust on the opposite vector, decelerating as they finish the trip. The engines are always operating, and peak speed is attained at the middle of the flight.