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[Gregor Wyrmbane]

Definitely Ranger/Rogue. I play that combo more than all the others I've tried, combined.

Second would be Fighter/WM. That can be a really fun combo when the environment isn't filled with crit immune adversaries.

I've just recently started playing through the OC again with a Fighter/Dwarven Defender. Never tried that class before, but so far it's been fun. I'll get back to you on that one.

I've been playing D&D since the 70's, and I've never cared for playing caster classes.

[Kail Pendragon]

Fighter/Rogue is indeed a combo that always works. Since we have still a class slot to fill I'll expand the Ftr/Rogue to Ftr/Rogue/CoT, Ftr/Rogue/SD, Ftr/Rogue/WM, Ftr/Rogue/DwD which result all in pretty nice builds.

Anyhow, I guess that my personal favourite would be Rogue 24/Bard 6/PM 10 dual wielding epic dodger with SCV (and evidently crit immunity), epic trapper and taunter halfling of doom.

Builds I like include Cleric 26/Bard 4/RDD 10 Str focused battle cleric, Cleric 35/Ftr 2/Rogue 3 caster cleric, Wiz 35/Ftr 2/Rogue 3 and Wiz 35/Ranger 1/Assassin 4 multiclass melee mages, Druid 28/Ftr 6/Monk 6 all purpouse druid, Rogue 23/Barb 16/SD 1 str based terrifying rager sneaker, Rogue 15/Wiz 2/AA 23 epic dodging archer, Wiz 26/Ftr 8/Rogue 6 gnome dex based spellblade, Bard 26/BG 4/RDD 10 str/cha divine feated lasting inspirer, Bard 16/FTR 14/RDD 10 devastating crit machine and a bunch of other builds. There's just too many good combos out there

Modifié par Kail Pendragon, 31 juillet 2011 - 04:17 .

[Elhanan]

Rogue for Skill Pts and the variety of class skills, though I most often go for Search, Tumble, and UMD.

Actual fave combos would include Ftr/ Rog. and Wiz/ Rog, but Ranger, DwD, and Druid have worked well, too.

Modifié par Elhanan, 31 juillet 2011 - 04:57 .

[Last Darkness]

If I remeber correctly I enjoyed a Cleric/Rogue

[Shadooow]

Wiz/AA, I was able to solo all dungeons on server I play with this. But the most I like on this char that noone could copy it and do the same. The build itself is very weak, so noone who tried it succeded and couldnt understand how could I do it.

[Shadooow]

Lowlander wrote...

Just curious. Where do you play all these 40th level characters?

I have played about 50 of the top Vault modules. I have never hit level 40 even once. I think I was only above 30 in 2 of the 50 mods...

It seems whenever builds are discussed it is all level 40 builds. I always wondered where they were played. Is everyone play on Level 40 PWs?

Yep PW. Most action (PW) category servers are lvl 40 based, you must exp your char from lvl 1/4 to 40 but then the fun begins.

[Sadira of Tyr]

My favourite would be a halfling bard/rogue or bard/rogue/RDD. Usually a dex build dual weilding daggers. Very useful for rogue skills and party buffs. Probably not a very effective build for solo play, but I find it quite fun. It also works well for role play and is a great party character.

Modifié par Sadira of Tyr, 31 juillet 2011 - 05:49 .

[Kail Pendragon]

Lowlander wrote...

Just curious. Where do you play all these 40th level characters?

I have played about 50 of the top Vault modules. I have never hit level 40 even once. I think I was only above 30 in 2 of the 50 mods...

It seems whenever builds are discussed it is all level 40 builds. I always wondered where they were played. Is everyone play on Level 40 PWs?

One premise is that I try to build with playability all over the character's career in mind for builds I actually play in modules/PWs (vs concept builds I have or will 
"publish" at the ECB guild which may not follow this rule). That said, I also try to get all the most meaningful features by lvl 30, so if I play the same character across different modules not actually reaching lvl 40 is not a big concern. I'll miss a couple points of AB or AC or whatever, but no biggie. And finally I do play PWs which let you level up to lvl 40 and where lvl 40 characters too have their own challenges and I do enjoy the characters during the whole career (because of the premise above).

As an example, my Wizard 35/Ranger 1/Assassin 4 can be played as is no matter the starting/ending level. 

Sure, talking always about lvl 40 builds might not be appropriate, but then again you asked a very general question about class combos and so I gave a generic lvl 40 builds answer

[Elhanan]

ShaDoOoW wrote...

Lowlander wrote...

Just curious. Where do you play all these 40th level characters?

I have played about 50 of the top Vault modules. I have never hit level 40 even once. I think I was only above 30 in 2 of the 50 mods...

It seems whenever builds are discussed it is all level 40 builds. I always wondered where they were played. Is everyone play on Level 40 PWs?

Yep PW. Most action (PW) category servers are lvl 40 based, you must exp your char from lvl 1/4 to 40 but then the fun begins.

The World of Aenea for me. I have around half-dozen 40th builds, and a few that are less. But the end is not 40th if one does not wish, as one may Reincarnate and Ascend to gain abilities and immunities, I have yet to do this, but may do this soon with my casters.

As for mods, I used the Sands of Fate series to complete a build at 40th, though this was not the designers intent.

[Kail Pendragon]

ShaDoOoW wrote...

Wiz/AA, I was able to solo all dungeons on server I play with this. But the most I like on this char that noone could copy it and do the same. The build itself is very weak, so noone who tried it succeded and couldnt understand how could I do it.

I have a Wiz 27/Rogue 2/AA 11 build (a spellbow) which is very enjoyable and IMO not difficult to play. Not having seen yours nor knowing where you play I don't know why you call your Wiz/AA weak, I can just say that one can make pretty effective builds out of Wiz/AA.

[Failed.Bard]

I like Bard/CoT/RDD (Bard 12, CoT 18, RDD 10) - Good saves, decent self buffs, AC and AB aren't too bad, and even the halfling I used it for can get a DC 50 dev crit off it.

I also like Rogue/WM/SD (Rogue 31, WM 7, SD 2). Trickier to do, it has to be with a weapon you have a proficiency with already at level 1 to make work with a non-human. Since SD uses the feats a WM also needs it helps some with the feats needed. Reflex save is good, but will save is the big negative here. AC can be good, dex builds can have decent AB and AC still, plus epic dodge, damage when you can get crits and sneaks in is really impressive, even moreso on strength builds.

[ehye_khandee]

I do a lot of offline solo testing for my module and have come to really appreciate the RANGER / SORC. combo. The ranger side packs lots of fighting and HP oriented goodies, sorc. gets me spells (the CHA primary attribute helping social skills too), and the selection of a PIXIE familiar means I have a rogue in the party more or less (plus a great remote operated scout). True, I do have to load up on healing magic, but that is the only base I can't cover with this build for the most part.

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[HipMaestro]

Any monk shifter without dragon form.

Unfortunately, they suck in most high-magic environments but I still have fun playing them regardless.

Other than that, any class combo with rogue, bard or assassin to satisfy my UMD addiction.

[Shadooow]

And basically any combination with sorc/wiz. Cos fighter can just swing with his sword but arcane spellcasters have almost unlimited possibilities.

My second favorite combo is wiz7/cleric3/MT30 (Mystic Theurge from PRC) this was really fun to play.

[Kail Pendragon]

MT is a killer. And the only way to pull off a serious mage/cleric combo.

[Shadooow]

Yea but even the cleric 20 / wizard 20 can be fun to play. (and with my unofficial patch's feature it can have epic spells.

[Kail Pendragon]

No doubt about the fact it can be fun to play. You can also make a decent build out of it but it always leaves a bad taste in my mouth. MT ftw.

[WebShaman]

Heh. I guess I am the only one to be a solo class.

MM all the way, bay-bee!

What can I say? I love Wizards. YMMV.

[Kail Pendragon]

WebShaman wrote...

Heh. I guess I am the only one to be a solo class.

MM all the way, bay-bee!

What can I say? I love Wizards. YMMV.

Well, Web, I guess you wouldn't find too shabby the Wiz 35/Rang 1/Assn 4 that I mentioned above MMM (multiclass melee mage) FTW!

[WebShaman]

Yeah, yeah, I know. You rotten, MCer, you!

I will say this - it plays much better with the PRC! Well, drop those 2 levels of Assassin. You only really need 2 (UMD, Tumble), and you will need an extra level of Ranger (level 2, for the Discipline drop). That gives you an extra level of Wizard, and that is a good thing.

Still, the MM is soooo good, that one can do it without MCing, and it remains viable. Well, in most environments, anyway.

[Kail Pendragon]

Definitely Web! Your MM is a true NWN milestone.

[Elhanan]

WebShaman wrote...

Yeah, yeah, I know. You rotten, MCer, you!

I will say this - it plays much better with the PRC! Well, drop those 2 levels of Assassin. You only really need 2 (UMD, Tumble), and you will need an extra level of Ranger (level 2, for the Discipline drop). That gives you an extra level of Wizard, and that is a good thing.

Still, the MM is soooo good, that one can do it without MCing, and it remains viable. Well, in most environments, anyway.

I luv adding Rogue to Wizard; the Skill synergy is amazing!

Like gadgets? Set Traps! Ounce of prevention calls to you? Select all three Perception skills! Tired of that pixie? Open your own locks and traps, and summon a dragon! If only one could use Skill pts as ammo....

Amazing!

[WebShaman]

Rangers also get Set Traps, do not forget that! (I personally find this alone the "breaking point" in the 3.0 Ranger). The Wiz/Ranger/Assassin build that Kail mentions is an really nasty character! I have played more than a few, and they really are nice.