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Arcian wrote...

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^****** sapiens have existed for over 200,000 years and could not possibly be repurposed asari. Other than that, your theory makes sense.


I may be wrong, but think that all of the research that proves that theory is based upon the assumption that mutations occur at a steady rate over time. If the Protheans did some tampering, the "evidence" of that tampering might look like natural evolution to geneticists. I'm not a scientist though, so it's just a theory.

I am quite positive they made some tampering, but it's very unlikely that they repurposed asari.

Really, the only possible reasons why humans and asari look alike is:

1) Metagame; because "everyone" loves blue-skinned space babe aliens.
2) Pure coincidence.
3) Some sort of panspermia a long, long, long time ago that caused the divergence.


I may be wrong, but couldn't the conversation in the bar on Illium (Eternity?) between the Salarian, Turian, and Human raise some doubts? If Asari are all biotics, which I think they are, then couldn't they simply be affecting the minds of those around them in order to make themselves seem attractive to whichever species they happen to encounter? I feel like Bioware hinted at this when one of the species said "What if they're affecting our minds?" or something to that effect, and then the human dismissed it.

Also, such a mind-affecting technique could be an accidental evolutionary effect to help Asari meld with other species, because pureblood melding tends to lead to sterile (and murderous) offspring. Just my two cents.

Sorry if that got too off-topic.

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@GottyGear: There could be a simpler explanation to the bachelor dialogue. They're focusing on a single trait - the human sees the face, the turian sees the fringe-esque scalp and the salarian sees the complexion or skin tone or whatever. I doubt it has anything to do with mind-techniques.

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GottyGear wrote...

Arcian wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

Arcian wrote...

^****** sapiens have existed for over 200,000 years and could not possibly be repurposed asari. Other than that, your theory makes sense.


I may be wrong, but think that all of the research that proves that theory is based upon the assumption that mutations occur at a steady rate over time. If the Protheans did some tampering, the "evidence" of that tampering might look like natural evolution to geneticists. I'm not a scientist though, so it's just a theory.

I am quite positive they made some tampering, but it's very unlikely that they repurposed asari.

Really, the only possible reasons why humans and asari look alike is:

1) Metagame; because "everyone" loves blue-skinned space babe aliens.
2) Pure coincidence.
3) Some sort of panspermia a long, long, long time ago that caused the divergence.


I may be wrong, but couldn't the conversation in the bar on Illium (Eternity?) between the Salarian, Turian, and Human raise some doubts? If Asari are all biotics, which I think they are, then couldn't they simply be affecting the minds of those around them in order to make themselves seem attractive to whichever species they happen to encounter? I feel like Bioware hinted at this when one of the species said "What if they're affecting our minds?" or something to that effect, and then the human dismissed it.

Also, such a mind-affecting technique could be an accidental evolutionary effect to help Asari meld with other species, because pureblood melding tends to lead to sterile (and murderous) offspring. Just my two cents.

Sorry if that got too off-topic.


No. All you would need is a photograph of an asari to debunk this erroneous conclusion. Do you think a JPEG can affect the mind of a viewer? What about an asari corpse? What about a medical scan?

The take away from that scene for me was that each species was most focused on the traits of the asari that look the most like their own species, like the head fringe for the turians. It is preposterous to think that asari can mind control all aliens even when they aren't present. And how would they be able to wear armor designed for humans? That bar scene has been misinterpreted so many times, I wish they would have left it out. <_<

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Siansonea II wrote...

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I may be wrong, but couldn't the conversation in the bar on Illium (Eternity?) between the Salarian, Turian, and Human raise some doubts? If Asari are all biotics, which I think they are, then couldn't they simply be affecting the minds of those around them in order to make themselves seem attractive to whichever species they happen to encounter? I feel like Bioware hinted at this when one of the species said "What if they're affecting our minds?" or something to that effect, and then the human dismissed it.

Also, such a mind-affecting technique could be an accidental evolutionary effect to help Asari meld with other species, because pureblood melding tends to lead to sterile (and murderous) offspring. Just my two cents.

Sorry if that got too off-topic.


No. All you would need is a photograph of an asari to debunk this erroneous conclusion. Do you think a JPEG can affect the mind of a viewer? What about an asari corpse? What about a medical scan?

The take away from that scene for me was that each species was most focused on the traits of the asari that look the most like their own species, like the head fringe for the turians. It is preposterous to think that asari can mind control all aliens even when they aren't present. And how would they be able to wear armor designed for humans? That bar scene has been misinterpreted so many times, I wish they would have left it out. <_<


I do see what you mean, but I don't think it's unreasonable for a species that has demostrated a propensity for biotics far beyond human comprehension to leave some sort of trace or ability beyond that effects even photographs. As for armor, they can have the same body type without PRECISELY the same facial features.

I'm sorry if I'm flogging a dead horse (or at this point beating bits of destroyed horse into the earth) since I don't know how much this particular topic has been exhausted, but I think it's a more (or just as) reasonable explanation than "pure coincidence" or having diverging genes from 200,000+ years back but keeping the exact same facial structure. :mellow:

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GottyGear wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

GottyGear wrote...

I may be wrong, but couldn't the conversation in the bar on Illium (Eternity?) between the Salarian, Turian, and Human raise some doubts? If Asari are all biotics, which I think they are, then couldn't they simply be affecting the minds of those around them in order to make themselves seem attractive to whichever species they happen to encounter? I feel like Bioware hinted at this when one of the species said "What if they're affecting our minds?" or something to that effect, and then the human dismissed it.

Also, such a mind-affecting technique could be an accidental evolutionary effect to help Asari meld with other species, because pureblood melding tends to lead to sterile (and murderous) offspring. Just my two cents.

Sorry if that got too off-topic.


No. All you would need is a photograph of an asari to debunk this erroneous conclusion. Do you think a JPEG can affect the mind of a viewer? What about an asari corpse? What about a medical scan?

The take away from that scene for me was that each species was most focused on the traits of the asari that look the most like their own species, like the head fringe for the turians. It is preposterous to think that asari can mind control all aliens even when they aren't present. And how would they be able to wear armor designed for humans? That bar scene has been misinterpreted so many times, I wish they would have left it out. <_<


I do see what you mean, but I don't think it's unreasonable for a species that has demostrated a propensity for biotics far beyond human comprehension to leave some sort of trace or ability beyond that effects even photographs. As for armor, they can have the same body type without PRECISELY the same facial features.

I'm sorry if I'm flogging a dead horse (or at this point beating bits of destroyed horse into the earth) since I don't know how much this particular topic has been exhausted, but I think it's a more (or just as) reasonable explanation than "pure coincidence" or having diverging genes from 200,000+ years back but keeping the exact same facial structure. :mellow:


That's a long way to go to rationalize a wackadoo theory based on a throwaway conversation that was done strictly for laughs. It was a bachelor party, for crying out loud. So yeah, the theory that asari are projecting some sort of mental hologram is just beyond bogus. Geez, just think about it for five minutes. The much simpler and far more likely explanation is that asari actually look like asari. The simplest answer is usually the correct one.

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Yeah, ok, Occam's Razor for the win I guess. It just seemed like too much of a coincidence to me.

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Let's leave the asari discussion and return to protheans...

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So, it looks like Liara will be able to see Prothy first hand.

Unless Garrus and Liara are placeholder for Vega and VS, who I still think they'll be your first squadmates after escaping Earth like Jacob and Miranda after escaping Lazarus Station.

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So, it looks like Liara will be able to see Prothy first hand.

Unless Garrus and Liara are placeholder for Vega and VS, who I still think they'll be your first squadmates after escaping Earth like Jacob and Miranda after escaping Lazarus Station.

Well, it would keep with the tradition.

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maybe brothean = lee john reveal equivalent

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First of all, great thread and great theory, Arcian. 

The way I see it, it's not at all impossible for some Protheans to have had some inkling concerning the Reapers' existence and/or invasion plans.  Now, obviously the vast, overwhelming majority of them did not know, hence the fact that their leaders got owned before they even knew what was happening.  But if the Reapers had managed to invade on schedule in Mass Effect 1, would the fate of the current Council have been any different? They only pledged to respond to a concrete and obvious threat, and that was Saren and Sovereign, and even deemed Shepard an annoyance for repeatedly insisting the Reapers were the real threat.  I would say that it's entirely possible that if a Prothean individual ever stumbled across the realization that there was indeed a recurring cycle of extinction in the galaxy and then attempted to prove their theory and advocate action, they would have been just as unable to prove the legitimacy of their claim as Liara was before she met Shepard, and as Shepard still is, to the present day.  All that individual may have been able to do was begin the classified Ilos project as a safeguard against not necessarily an invasion, but from any apocalyptic threat whatsoever that would result in extinction.  

The complex on Ilos in which the Protheans took refuge upon hearing of the Reaper invasion is called "the Archives." Vigil, the stasis pods and the Conduit (which is above ground) are all housed here. The word “archives” prompts ideas of information, documents, libraries, what have you, and evidenced by the countless hallways jutting off from the main corridor Shep and co. take through the complex, the place is huge and could potentially possess (or have possessed, since the power seems to have failed) troves of knowledge, like a time capsule of Prothean civilization. In addition to the fact that the majority of the complex was contained in a bunker, and, as the OP stated, that it contained a ton of cryogenic pods, it seems like Ilos was not only a research project, but a place of preservation, as well. 
                                                                                                                                                                                       In addition, I was playing through ME 1 again tonight and I noticed how similar the Conduit is to the "statue' relay on the Presidium.  They're both constructed vertically, albeit this may be because they're both linked to an object and not merely space.  They also have rings that gyrate noticeably faster than those found on the relays in space.  The Prothean scientists had to have known the "statue" relay wasn't a statue at all--otherwise how would they have known to connect the Conduit directly to the Citadel, and not to the nearby space relay? Would knowing that it wasn't a statue have prompted curiosity as to where it led, and possibly be interpreted as a suspicious flaw in the integrity of the station? Did the Ilos team use this particular relay as the model for their reverse engineering project? --Just some things I was wondering, as the current populace of the Citadel obviously didn't care to examine the "statue"--perhaps the majority of the Prothean populace was just as ignorant.   


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Generally, my problem with your "beneficial precursor hypothesis" is that you assume intention and foreknowledge where I can't see any evidence for it, and that your scenario sounds more like a golden age myth set in space than like real history. As a rule, I would find it much more plausible to assume the Protheans were a species like any other. The distance in time and certain historical events then brings people to engage in myth-building around them, which is what the hanar have done. If some character in the ME universe published your scenario in a book and we heard about it on CDN, I would find it very interesting, but the actual, real, material history behind stuff like this tends to be a little less mythological and more down-to-earth.

The principle I'm using, btw, is an extension of the "principle of mediocrity": unless we have evidence to the contrary, it's plausible to assume that the protheans were a species like any other.


They obviously were not a species like any other, if for no other reason than they totally screwed up the Reaper's plans.  That is not to say that had time gone on, some other species could not have done the same thing, eventually, but the fact of the matter is their race's achievements served as a significant turning point in thwarting the Reapers.  For example, name another race that managed to reverse engineer a mass relay, or that actually managed to have the foresight, ability and desire to leave a warning for other races and safeguard them against the Reapers? Even if the arthenn or the zeioph, the precursors to the Protheans, did manage these things or things like them, the fact that they weren't the ones that influenced the events of Mass Effect is testament to their being a species like any other, but the Protheans managed to break the cycle.  ...Whether or not their actions will lead to it being permanently broken, and not just delayed, remains of course, to be seen.  But it is undeniable that they messed things up.      

Admittedly the majority of the galaxy does blow the Protheans out of proportion--as far as the galactic-society-who-doesn’t-believe-in-the-Reapers knows, the Protheans built the relays and the Citadel. That’s giving them undue credit. The Protheans were not exceptional for using the technology that they did not create like every other spacefaring race did, but they were exceptional for the technology that they did create, i.e., the beacons and the Conduit, which allowed Shepard and co. to foil Sovereign’s plans.

Personally I see that whole bit about the Keepers being representative of organic life evolving in unexpected ways as a parallel to the overall plot.  The Reapers went for millions (or more) of years, perpetuating their cycle, but eventually organic life (the Protheans) managed to throw a monkey wrench in their plans.  According to the game, the Reapers arrive every 50,000 years.  After countless cycles, they had apparently come to believe that (or approximately that) was the magic number.  The trouble wth the Protheans was, as I've seen it stated it other threads, that 50,000 years was too long, and the Reapers began that particular culling too late.  The Protheans surpassed the Reapers' expectations, demonstrating that organic life can adapt and act in unpredictable ways, just like the Keepers responding to the Citadel's signals rather than those broadcasted by Sovereign.  Since Shepard and humanity have caught on and responded to the Reaper threat in the past two games, we can infer that the current races (perhaps most of all humanity) are even more exceptional than the Protheans.     


 

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I love this idea! its entirely possible there an undicovered Prothean ship with a small crew and only one of them alive after 50,000 years in cryosleep.

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First of all, great thread and great theory, Arcian. 

The way I see it, it's not at all impossible for some Protheans to have had some inkling concerning the Reapers' existence and/or invasion plans.  Now, obviously the vast, overwhelming majority of them did not know, hence the fact that their leaders got owned before they even knew what was happening.  But if the Reapers had managed to invade on schedule in Mass Effect 1, would the fate of the current Council have been any different? They only pledged to respond to a concrete and obvious threat, and that was Saren and Sovereign, and even deemed Shepard an annoyance for repeatedly insisting the Reapers were the real threat.  I would say that it's entirely possible that if a Prothean individual ever stumbled across the realization that there was indeed a recurring cycle of extinction in the galaxy and then attempted to prove their theory and advocate action, they would have been just as unable to prove the legitimacy of their claim as Liara was before she met Shepard, and as Shepard still is, to the present day.  All that individual may have been able to do was begin the classified Ilos project as a safeguard against not necessarily an invasion, but from any apocalyptic threat whatsoever that would result in extinction.  

The complex on Ilos in which the Protheans took refuge upon hearing of the Reaper invasion is called "the Archives." Vigil, the stasis pods and the Conduit (which is above ground) are all housed here. The word “archives” prompts ideas of information, documents, libraries, what have you, and evidenced by the countless hallways jutting off from the main corridor Shep and co. take through the complex, the place is huge and could potentially possess (or have possessed, since the power seems to have failed) troves of knowledge, like a time capsule of Prothean civilization. In addition to the fact that the majority of the complex was contained in a bunker, and, as the OP stated, that it contained a ton of cryogenic pods, it seems like Ilos was not only a research project, but a place of preservation, as well. 
                                                                                                                                                                                       In addition, I was playing through ME 1 again tonight and I noticed how similar the Conduit is to the "statue' relay on the Presidium.  They're both constructed vertically, albeit this may be because they're both linked to an object and not merely space.  They also have rings that gyrate noticeably faster than those found on the relays in space.  The Prothean scientists had to have known the "statue" relay wasn't a statue at all--otherwise how would they have known to connect the Conduit directly to the Citadel, and not to the nearby space relay? Would knowing that it wasn't a statue have prompted curiosity as to where it led, and possibly be interpreted as a suspicious flaw in the integrity of the station? Did the Ilos team use this particular relay as the model for their reverse engineering project? --Just some things I was wondering, as the current populace of the Citadel obviously didn't care to examine the "statue"--perhaps the majority of the Prothean populace was just as ignorant.   


Ieldra2 wrote...


Generally, my problem with your "beneficial precursor hypothesis" is that you assume intention and foreknowledge where I can't see any evidence for it, and that your scenario sounds more like a golden age myth set in space than like real history. As a rule, I would find it much more plausible to assume the Protheans were a species like any other. The distance in time and certain historical events then brings people to engage in myth-building around them, which is what the hanar have done. If some character in the ME universe published your scenario in a book and we heard about it on CDN, I would find it very interesting, but the actual, real, material history behind stuff like this tends to be a little less mythological and more down-to-earth.

The principle I'm using, btw, is an extension of the "principle of mediocrity": unless we have evidence to the contrary, it's plausible to assume that the protheans were a species like any other.


They obviously were not a species like any other, if for no other reason than they totally screwed up the Reaper's plans.  That is not to say that had time gone on, some other species could not have done the same thing, eventually, but the fact of the matter is their race's achievements served as a significant turning point in thwarting the Reapers.  For example, name another race that managed to reverse engineer a mass relay, or that actually managed to have the foresight, ability and desire to leave a warning for other races and safeguard them against the Reapers? Even if the arthenn or the zeioph, the precursors to the Protheans, did manage these things or things like them, the fact that they weren't the ones that influenced the events of Mass Effect is testament to their being a species like any other, but the Protheans managed to break the cycle.  ...Whether or not their actions will lead to it being permanently broken, and not just delayed, remains of course, to be seen.  But it is undeniable that they messed things up.      

Admittedly the majority of the galaxy does blow the Protheans out of proportion--as far as the galactic-society-who-doesn’t-believe-in-the-Reapers knows, the Protheans built the relays and the Citadel. That’s giving them undue credit. The Protheans were not exceptional for using the technology that they did not create like every other spacefaring race did, but they were exceptional for the technology that they did create, i.e., the beacons and the Conduit, which allowed Shepard and co. to foil Sovereign’s plans.

Personally I see that whole bit about the Keepers being representative of organic life evolving in unexpected ways as a parallel to the overall plot.  The Reapers went for millions (or more) of years, perpetuating their cycle, but eventually organic life (the Protheans) managed to throw a monkey wrench in their plans.  According to the game, the Reapers arrive every 50,000 years.  After countless cycles, they had apparently come to believe that (or approximately that) was the magic number.  The trouble wth the Protheans was, as I've seen it stated it other threads, that 50,000 years was too long, and the Reapers began that particular culling too late.  The Protheans surpassed the Reapers' expectations, demonstrating that organic life can adapt and act in unpredictable ways, just like the Keepers responding to the Citadel's signals rather than those broadcasted by Sovereign.  Since Shepard and humanity have caught on and responded to the Reaper threat in the past two games, we can infer that the current races (perhaps most of all humanity) are even more exceptional than the Protheans.     


 



It's always been my understanding that the Relay Monument on the Presidium in front of the Citadel Tower was placed there by the Protheans. They built the Conduit before the Reapers invaded, and the Relay Monument was probably a "stealth" relay they placed there for other reasons. The Conduit connects only to the Relay Monument, so the two relays are actually a one-way relay directly onto the Citadel from Ilos. The Protheans were puzzling out how to build their own mass relays, and the Conduit/Relay Monument relays were their prototype. Neither of the relays had been built by the Reapers, otherwise Sovereign would have known about them without Saren's help. It's doubtful that Saren even knew where the Conduit led, or even what it was, only that the Protheans felt that the Conduit was the key to stopping the Reapers and therefore something Saren needed to take care of. Shepard only finds out that the Conduit is a mass relay from Vigil, and Saren doesn't even get to speak with Vigil as far as I know. So Saren had to arrive at the Conduit and figure it out on his own. Of course the fact that the Conduit is out in the open, outdoors, makes me wonder why neither Sovereign nor the Normandy crew could see the Conduit from orbit. That was weird.

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JimmyTheProthean wrote...

I love this idea! its entirely possible there an undicovered Prothean ship with a small crew and only one of them alive after 50,000 years in cryosleep.

No, the humans took all of their ships on Mars while they slept. And it is very unlikely that any of them has died, barring incurable disease running rampant in the outpost.

Would actually be kind of neat to have a bunch of protheans hanging out on the Normandy, with one of them - Prothy - being a squadmember.

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Well, there was little to none discussion here recently, so I’d try to remove some dust from here.

The topic that constantly returns in my thoughts about Protheans, are the Prothean spheres (or “artifacts”).

I
don’t know if you saw a Dustin Hoffman/Samuel L. Jackson/Sharon Stone
movie (based on a Sci-Fi novel which I didn’t read) called “Sphere”.
I’ve seen it once or twice some years ago, and I don’t remember it so
well, but I remember the main idea: the Sphere was a piece of alien
technology, actually containing an alien consciousness. Here are some
pictures (first google pages), one of them is a comparison between
2001’s obelisk and Sphere (I think its kinda same climat)


Here are the characters approaching the Sphere:
https://lh6.googleus...u3nAB4huhiMNOHs


And here is Sphere/2001: a Space Odyssey comparison:
https://lh6.googleus...Yde6FxeZL3Pn2so

And here is the Mass Effect 2 Prothean artifact (don’t remember the planet):
https://lh4.googleus...5yshVmNjL1l9zeo

The similarities of te scenes are “quite obvious”.

In
the movie, the Sphere could be “entered”, and after that, the thoughts
of the characters became reality. For example, the Samuel L. Jackson’s
character was afraid to read certain novel (Verne’s “Twenty Thousands
Leagues Under Sea” as I recall it) beyond certain point - after he
entered the Sphere, his “Leagues” became blank pages after that point.

What
are the Prothean artifacts? Are they data banks? Or do they contain
Prothean consciusnesses, similar to Vigils? And, can the Prothean
artifacts be entered (when they have their actual size, not the
minimized one) ? Maybe they are the key to awaken/discover Prothy? (f.e.
to deliver his mind to a body, not necessarily Prothean one).

Please, share your thoughts on this one with me.

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Actually, I have thought about the visual similiarity of the prothean orb and the eponymous sphere in "Sphere". It is possible that the orb on Kopis could be a virtual chamber. Whether it contains data, memories or even a pocket space inhabited by dormant protheans, or if these protheans can even leave, I can't tell.

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Well, for sure I hope the orbs are more than nifty classic Sc-fi reference. Or a cool gadget you can put on your table.

I wish, that if you retrieved that orb it will fave influence on your relations with Prothy. It can't have vital information (like a data bank which has Prothean equivalent of "defeating the Reapers for dummies" inside), but for example plans of Prothean weaponry? Why not.

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I'd rather have it contain information about prothean culture and history. Maybe some ancestral memories, or something like that.

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One thing that keeps coming up in my mind is how Shepard is the only one able to handle beacons. Even Liara is exhausted and needs to lay down after melding minds. When Shepard touches things of prothy tech it reacts to him/her. What if..BW did this on purpose cause they new Shepard would meet one. Or maybe some other surprise that we don't know about Shepard?? Just a thought :)

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Vertigo_1 wrote...

twitter.com/#!/macwalterslives/status/108235612204695552

"The Protheans are a single species. And yes, they will definitely have a prominent role in #ME3."



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Mesina2 wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

twitter.com/#!/macwalterslives/status/108235612204695552

"The Protheans are a single species. And yes, they will definitely have a prominent role in #ME3."


Confirmed for guitar solo on the back of a burning Reaper!!!!

Concerning the Sphere, I have stated in a similar thread that the Prothean Spheres are data storage devices evident from the Sphere in ME1 on Elitania that provides you with the memories of a Cro Magnon human THAT EXISTED MAXIMUM 35,000 YEARS AGO. ;);)

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Illiandri wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

twitter.com/#!/macwalterslives/status/108235612204695552

"The Protheans are a single species. And yes, they will definitely have a prominent role in #ME3."


Confirmed for guitar solo on the back of a burning Reaper!!!!

Concerning the Sphere, I have stated in a similar thread that the Prothean Spheres are data storage devices evident from the Sphere in ME1 on Elitania that provides you with the memories of a Cro Magnon human THAT EXISTED MAXIMUM 35,000 YEARS AGO. ;);)


Where are you getting this lower limit from? Anatomically modern humans have existed for over 150,000 years. I know the Prothean orb on Eletania mentioned a "Cro-Magnon hunter" but I think that was the writer's shorthand for "prehistoric modern human" rather than the true Cro-Magnon population of early European humans.

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Siansonea II wrote...
Where are you getting this lower limit from? Anatomically modern humans have existed for over 150,000 years. I know the Prothean orb on Eletania mentioned a "Cro-Magnon hunter" but I think that was the writer's shorthand for "prehistoric modern human" rather than the true Cro-Magnon population of early European humans.

That reminds me of something that I've wondered about a couple of times.  It never has been stated, at least not that I'm aware of anyway, that ME universe history is actually the same as our own world history in reality.  Of course it's based off of it, but it's fiction.  

It's widely assumed that it is, but do we know that this is indeed the case?