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[Illiandri]

Siansonea II wrote...

Illiandri wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

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"The Protheans are a single species. And yes, they will definitely have a prominent role in #ME3."

Confirmed for guitar solo on the back of a burning Reaper!!!!

Concerning the Sphere, I have stated in a similar thread that the Prothean Spheres are data storage devices evident from the Sphere in ME1 on Elitania that provides you with the memories of a Cro Magnon human THAT EXISTED MAXIMUM 35,000 YEARS AGO. ;)

Where are you getting this lower limit from? Anatomically modern humans have existed for over 150,000 years. I know the Prothean orb on Eletania mentioned a "Cro-Magnon hunter" but I think that was the writer's shorthand for "prehistoric modern human" rather than the true Cro-Magnon population of early European humans.

And I think that they actually meant the true Cro-Magnon population of early European humans. We have now come to an impass where each of us believes in something completely different and without additional data we are now both Schrodinger's cat. I might be right you might be right.

The difference is my theory makes the existence of Protheans less of a "Oh God Bioware is lame" but more of a "Bioware has been hinting Prothean survivors so I am OK with a Prothean squaddie"

[Siansonea]

Future Guy wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...
Where are you getting this lower limit from? Anatomically modern humans have existed for over 150,000 years. I know the Prothean orb on Eletania mentioned a "Cro-Magnon hunter" but I think that was the writer's shorthand for "prehistoric modern human" rather than the true Cro-Magnon population of early European humans.

That reminds me of something that I've wondered about a couple of times.  It never has been stated, at least not that I'm aware of anyway, that ME universe history is actually the same as our own world history in reality.  Of course it's based off of it, but it's fiction.  

It's widely assumed that it is, but do we know that this is indeed the case?  

I would assume it's based off our real-world history. And changing the established date range of the Cro-Magnon population in Europe would be a really odd point of divergence, and would seem arbitrary.

[Siansonea]

Illiandri wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

Illiandri wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

twitter.com/#!/macwalterslives/status/108235612204695552

"The Protheans are a single species. And yes, they will definitely have a prominent role in #ME3."

Confirmed for guitar solo on the back of a burning Reaper!!!!

Concerning the Sphere, I have stated in a similar thread that the Prothean Spheres are data storage devices evident from the Sphere in ME1 on Elitania that provides you with the memories of a Cro Magnon human THAT EXISTED MAXIMUM 35,000 YEARS AGO. ;)

Where are you getting this lower limit from? Anatomically modern humans have existed for over 150,000 years. I know the Prothean orb on Eletania mentioned a "Cro-Magnon hunter" but I think that was the writer's shorthand for "prehistoric modern human" rather than the true Cro-Magnon population of early European humans.

And I think that they actually meant the true Cro-Magnon population of early European humans. We have now come to an impass where each of us believes in something completely different and without additional data we are now both Schrodinger's cat. I might be right you might be right.

The difference is my theory makes the existence of Protheans less of a "Oh God Bioware is lame" but more of a "Bioware has been hinting Prothean survivors so I am OK with a Prothean squaddie"

Yeah, it's an impasse of sorts. But until I know how BioWare intends to bring the Protheans into the equation, I'll reserve judgement. There's not that much difference between 50,000 years and 35,000 years, after all.

[Illiandri]

There is one galactic extinction cycle difference though. If you look at the flagged events that make it into ME2 you will see that the seemingly unimportant event of seeing the vision on Eletania is flagged. Why is that if not for some point in the future Shepard goes: "I knew it!!!"

[ubermensch007]

stysiaq wrote...

Well, Arcian seems not half as obsessed with Prothean squadmate as some of the users are with Kaidans anus.

I think Prothean squadmate is quite impossible and could be a little bit silly; No being would be in a shape and condition to fight after (presumably) spending millenia in cryo-stasis. However, he would be awesome and climatic member of ME3 Normandy crew, something like an expert on the whole Reaper situation.

@stysiaq: Dude... Okay - that was so effin funny; that I'm going to have to put what you wrote here in my siganture.Like... Right now.

[Jayce]

Illiandri wrote...

Concerning the Sphere, I have stated in a similar thread that the Prothean Spheres are data storage devices evident from the Sphere in ME1 on Elitania that provides you with the memories of a Cro Magnon human THAT EXISTED MAXIMUM 35,000 YEARS AGO. ;)

Er no, the earliest known Cro Magnon Fossil is dated as between 35,000 and 40,000 years old. There is absolutely no reason to believe the Cro Magnon had not been around longer than that.  

[Illiandri]

Jayce F wrote...

Illiandri wrote...

Concerning the Sphere, I have stated in a similar thread that the Prothean Spheres are data storage devices evident from the Sphere in ME1 on Elitania that provides you with the memories of a Cro Magnon human THAT EXISTED MAXIMUM 35,000 YEARS AGO. ;)

Er no, the earliest known Cro Magnon Fossil is dated as between 35,000 and 40,000 years old. There is absolutely no reason to believe the Cro Magnon had not been around longer than that.  

It is more likely Bioware used the Cro Magnon as a shorthand for the anatomically modern human than they decide to defy modern conventions and claim that the Cro Magnon existed way before current evidence. This is a video game. Not the "Origin of Species according to Casey Hudson and Marc Walters".

[DarthSliver]

Jayce F wrote...

Illiandri wrote...

Concerning the Sphere, I have stated in a similar thread that the Prothean Spheres are data storage devices evident from the Sphere in ME1 on Elitania that provides you with the memories of a Cro Magnon human THAT EXISTED MAXIMUM 35,000 YEARS AGO. ;)

Er no, the earliest known Cro Magnon Fossil is dated as between 35,000 and 40,000 years old. There is absolutely no reason to believe the Cro Magnon had not been around longer than that.  

True that, evolution is a slow process so most species that are Reaped in the next cycle were already close on forming their species civilization and what not. 

[whytopersist]

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Modifié par Chris Priestly, 07 septembre 2011 - 03:29 .

[duhflushtech]

Technical objection!

As much as I would like to see a prothean squadmate in ME3 regardless of the story of how they get there (I'm sure Bioware can make a convincing tale), do we have any evidence to suggest that the CE "additional downloadable mission and character" isn't the robot dog that is supposed to be in the CE? After all, it doesn't say "mission and squad member;" it says "mission and character."

Or have we decided that the prothean would be an in-game character and so the CE DLC might not have anything to do with him/her at all?

[CroGamer002]

@Prothy the Prothean

Oh my God!

[CroGamer002]

Hmh, needs some Prothy fanarts.

[CroGamer002]

^I'll do that soon too, once I get my lazy ass to edit Prothy video.

[Stardusk78]

Prothean for crew member, not squaddy...

[Bad King]

Arcian wrote...

This Cerberus Daily News story is also noteworthy:

01/10/2011 - Scientists on Mars Assess New Chamber in Prothean Ruins
“Controversy brews tonight as scientists on Mars assess the contents of a newly opened chamber in the Prothean ruins. The opening has been a dream of exoarchaeologists for decades, delayed by the many steps necessary to replicate Prothean code keys and crack the cryptography for entry. Critics say the Milky Way Foundation, which provided supercomputers for the cryptanalysis, could hoard any Prothean discoveries. Dr. Unira T'Lam, liaison from the Citadel Committee on Paleotechnology, says she's been kept in the dark. "Foundation personnel have orchestrated a security system that keeps out everyone except a select cabal," she accuses. "Anything could be taken from inside and we'd never know." Dr. Ilsa Warren, who heads the analysis unit, dismisses the allegation. "We've made it clear all technology stays in situ throughout the cataloging and analysis process, which could take years," she says. "Dr. T'Lam's fears would be more appropriate closer to the end of the decade."”

As get fired up has noted, the Milky Way Foundation is a front for Cerberus, created in 2168 to funnel money.

I wonder if the tech found in the prothean ruins is what has led to the rapid growth and advancement of Cerberus between ME2 and ME3...

[Absafraginlootly]

Interesting read, don't know whether it will happen but it would be very cool.

[Nauks]

A very good read indeed!
What can I say, sounds like a solid and excitingly convincing glimpse of some of the ME3 plot machinations.

Thanks for taking the time to compile the OP!

Modifié par Nauks, 30 septembre 2011 - 06:58 .

[Raiders Fan 223]

Seeing and interacting with a Prothean is one of the things I'm looking forward to the most in ME3. Ilos was just so awesome.

I don't really want he/she/it/them to be squadmates, but more of advisors/helpers. Kind of like a much more plot engaged Anderson in ME1 and 2.

Edit: And yes, this thread is awesome.  Great work man

Modifié par Raiders Fan 223, 01 octobre 2011 - 06:14 .

[Jilinna]

Just got a chance to read the original post and I have to say I really enjoyed reading it! Your evidence is really convincing, and seems entierly possible.

I really hope climbing up that stupid mountiain on Elatania to use the trinket Sha'ira gave was actually worth something. <_< And if it is I hope it is used in the way you described!

Also your point on Keji Okuda was interesting, never thought about that. I would love if his greybox had such importance in ME3, I would be pleasantly surprised!
Anyways free bump for an awesome thread, and Arcian your avatar is pretty awesome!

Modifié par Jilinna, 02 octobre 2011 - 01:24 .