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Posté 08 février 2012 - 12:50

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DarthSliver wrote...

Arcian wrote...

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Ah yes, Babies, really?

You should know by now that every discussion on the BSN inevitably leads to Renegade vs Paragon or babies. No exceptions.


I was more or so curious if it was possible for the Protheans to repopulate the galaxy due to Prothy's way of survival and that its possible his group wasnt the only group of Protheans scheming such plans due to the state of their Empire after the Reapers set their trap off.  

It's unlikely his group was the only one. Whether the other groups survived for 50,000 years is another deal entirely. I think some did, but until we know exactly how Prothy's stasis worked, we can't be sure he wasn't an isolated incident.

Provided they find even a single female, they're clear in the water. Even then, the wonders of SCIENCE! may allow them to recreate his species using only his genetic material - he'd be the literal father of his people. Of course, this may be hard to pull off seeing as how very few people know of the real life breakthroughs that could allow this in just a few decades, so it might be better to go the "Hey look it's a bunker of female protheans. Knock yourself out, Prothy."

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Posté 08 février 2012 - 02:00

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Well, even if they could "Miranda-up" a child for him, it would simply be a younger clone. Some other genetic material would need to be used to vary the clones, and increase genetic diversity. Perhaps there is an analogue to him on the Prothean homeworld, like we have with chimpanzees.

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Posté 08 février 2012 - 02:54

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Can i just say something and nobody be a jerk back to me but can anybody tell me how a prothean (which are definetly all dead concidering how you blew the only things close to protheans to oblivion)
can join your squad

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Posté 08 février 2012 - 02:56

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masseffect5 wrote...

Can i just say something and nobody be a jerk back to me but can anybody tell me how a prothean (which are definetly all dead concidering how you blew the only things close to protheans to oblivion)
can join your squad

One of them survived by going into stasis all by himself, and he's been soundly asleep for 50,000 years. Does that answer your question?

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Posté 08 février 2012 - 04:29

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So it's sounding like the Prothean's DLC content may be called "From Dust" and may soon be available to order separately from the CE:  http://xbox360.ign.c.../1218167p1.html 

Good for those that aren't getting the CE, I guess.... at least this way, they won't miss out on the awesomeness that is the Prothean. :lol:

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Posté 08 février 2012 - 05:14

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AVPen wrote...

So it's sounding like the Prothean's DLC content may be called "From Dust" and may soon be available to order separately from the CE:  http://xbox360.ign.c.../1218167p1.html 

Good for those that aren't getting the CE, I guess.... at least this way, they won't miss out on the awesomeness that is the Prothean. :lol:

Yeah, well, you see, I think all copies of ME3 - SE as well as CE - get Prothy for free on day 1, while the people who doesn't purchase on day 1 has to buy the DLC. The exception being, of course, the Digital Deluxe version.

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Posté 08 février 2012 - 05:43

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AVPen wrote...

So it's sounding like the Prothean's DLC content may be called "From Dust" and may soon be available to order separately from the CE:  http://xbox360.ign.c.../1218167p1.html 

Good for those that aren't getting the CE, I guess.... at least this way, they won't miss out on the awesomeness that is the Prothean. :lol:


From Dust does sound pretty likely for the Prothean's mission...

And so far they've said it's only going to come for "free" in the collector's edition. Everyone else will have to pay like they did in Dragon Age II for the ousted Prince.

No more mercenaries like Zaeed coming for free with a new copy! :wizard:

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Posté 08 février 2012 - 07:10

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But could be still Batarian.

I mean, Batarian Hegemony got it's ass kicked before we even start ME3!

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Posté 08 février 2012 - 07:26

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Mesina2 wrote...

But could be still Batarian.

I mean, Batarian Hegemony got it's ass kicked before we even start ME3!


Do want.....:o

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Posté 08 février 2012 - 07:52

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Mesina2 wrote...

But could be still Batarian.

I mean, Batarian Hegemony got it's ass kicked before we even start ME3!


If this is what the Prothy looks like, then notice he has four eyes, did the Prothy’s have a hand in making the Batarians?

We know the Batarians think any one with less than four eyes is a lesser race, maybe there is some Prothean connection. What I’m trying to draw a line to is this. From Dust may get us a Prothy squad member and have a mission to help the Batarians because both Batarians and humans are needed to beat the reapers because the Prothean’s interfered in both races in specific ways for specific reasons. Thoughts?

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Edit: Also this may have been mentioned but does anyone think that Kasd Ishan is goign to be the Prothean? Remember this: Kasd Ishan was a Prothean and Chief Overseer of the Illos research facility. Personality imprints from him were used to program Vigil. This is from the Mass Effect Wiki.

And we know that Vigil said that only the top people made it to the citadel, the others had their pods shut off. So if that Prothean attitude carries over to ME3 then it stands to reason that wherever we find the Prothean if he was in stasis and was still alive, then it would have to be the head guy right? Which would be the Chief Overseer.

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Posté 08 février 2012 - 12:24

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TCBC_Freak wrote...

Edit: Also this may have been mentioned but does anyone think that Kasd Ishan is goign to be the Prothean? Remember this: Kasd Ishan was a Prothean and Chief Overseer of the Illos research facility. Personality imprints from him were used to program Vigil. This is from the Mass Effect Wiki.

And we know that Vigil said that only the top people made it to the citadel, the others had their pods shut off. So if that Prothean attitude carries over to ME3 then it stands to reason that wherever we find the Prothean if he was in stasis and was still alive, then it would have to be the head guy right? Which would be the Chief Overseer.


One problem. Our Prothean has never been to Ilos and he has only heard rumors about the research facility there.

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Posté 08 février 2012 - 12:42

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I wouldn't trust MEWiki. That place is rife with all sorts of speculation, and edits are always un-edited within half a day.

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Posté 08 février 2012 - 12:48

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JosephDucreux wrote...

I wouldn't trust MEWiki. That place is rife with all sorts of speculation, and edits are always un-edited within half a day.

I completely agree with you concerning the wiki, but the info about Ksad Ishan being the chief overseer is legit and in the game. I don't know how many times I watched the Vigil sequence over and over again when doing research for my Prothy theory.

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Posté 08 février 2012 - 12:49

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Arcian wrote...

JosephDucreux wrote...

I wouldn't trust MEWiki. That place is rife with all sorts of speculation, and edits are always un-edited within half a day.

I completely agree with you concerning the wiki, but the info about Ksad Ishan being the chief overseer is legit and in the game. I don't know how many times I watched the Vigil sequence over and over again when doing research for my Prothy theory.


Really? Well damn.

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Posté 08 février 2012 - 01:00

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Does anyone know what his real name will be? Because if Prothy turns out what we're gonna be calling him then I swear that I will say some unkind words about Bioware and their mothers, and then get over it.

Don't make me make fun of BW's mothers.

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Posté 08 février 2012 - 01:46

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Also, didn't Vigil say that the remaining Protheans on Ilos went to the Citadel through the conduit and it was a "one way trip", or was I hallucinating?

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Posté 08 février 2012 - 01:51

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kirasdream wrote...

Also, didn't Vigil say that the remaining Protheans on Ilos went to the Citadel through the conduit and it was a "one way trip", or was I hallucinating?


I'm pretty sure the Conduit is a one-way mass relay, yes.

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Posté 08 février 2012 - 03:26

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Someone With Mass wrote...

kirasdream wrote...

Also, didn't Vigil say that the remaining Protheans on Ilos went to the Citadel through the conduit and it was a "one way trip", or was I hallucinating?


I'm pretty sure the Conduit is a one-way mass relay, yes.


You are correct, sir. 

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Posté 08 février 2012 - 04:04

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Arcian wrote...

JosephDucreux wrote...

I wouldn't trust MEWiki. That place is rife with all sorts of speculation, and edits are always un-edited within half a day.

I completely agree with you concerning the wiki, but the info about Ksad Ishan being the chief overseer is legit and in the game. I don't know how many times I watched the Vigil sequence over and over again when doing research for my Prothy theory.

The Prothean's a soldier, not a scientist - he says he was completely unaware of the research and the scientists on Ilos, plus he's also never set foot on the Citadel before (till Shepard takes him there). So no, I don't believe at all that the Prothean would turn out to be Ksad Ishan.

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Posté 08 février 2012 - 04:39

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But yeah, I'm wondering how many protheans it would take to...restore their species while maintaining a healthy enough genetic diversity.


Well for humans you'd need around 50-100 unrelated individuals to maintain a viable genetic pool for genetic diversity, otherwise inbreeding would cause...shall we say just genetic havoc with bad consequences? :)

Assuming the protheans are anything like humans, an estimate of about 100 individuals makes sense. Inbreeding for any species on earth is not a good thing and nature avoids it whenever possible. 

Considering also that maybe a dozen-ish protheans survived on Ilos after the Reapers left, they realizing that they couldn't rekindle their civilization - it's a safe bet that they'd need more than just a dozen or two dozen even.

Who knows really though, we might find out in ME3! :)

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Posté 08 février 2012 - 04:49

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Someone With Mass wrote...

kirasdream wrote...

Also, didn't Vigil say that the remaining Protheans on Ilos went to the Citadel through the conduit and it was a "one way trip", or was I hallucinating?


I'm pretty sure the Conduit is a one-way mass relay, yes.


Though at that point the remaining Protheans on Ilos had been isolated from the rest of the galaxy for decades. They hadn't gotten any new information since the rest stopped their broadcasting during the Reaper culling so it is quite conceiveable that Porthy just comes from another group of survivors.

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Posté 08 février 2012 - 04:51

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AVPen wrote...
The Prothean's a soldier, not a scientist - he says he was completely unaware of the research and the scientists on Ilos, plus he's also never set foot on the Citadel before (till Shepard takes him there). So no, I don't believe at all that the Prothean would turn out to be Ksad Ishan.


Yep. The Citadel fell into the hands of the Reapers long before he was born.

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Posté 08 février 2012 - 05:03

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AVPen wrote...

Arcian wrote...

JosephDucreux wrote...

I wouldn't trust MEWiki. That place is rife with all sorts of speculation, and edits are always un-edited within half a day.

I completely agree with you concerning the wiki, but the info about Ksad Ishan being the chief overseer is legit and in the game. I don't know how many times I watched the Vigil sequence over and over again when doing research for my Prothy theory.

The Prothean's a soldier, not a scientist - he says he was completely unaware of the research and the scientists on Ilos, plus he's also never set foot on the Citadel before (till Shepard takes him there). So no, I don't believe at all that the Prothean would turn out to be Ksad Ishan.

Just to clarify, I wasn't implying Prothy = Ksad Ishan. I merely pointed out that Ksad Ishan is a real character mentioned in the game, and that he was the Chief Overseer of the Ilos project, as said by Vigil.

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Posté 08 février 2012 - 05:19

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Arcian wrote...

AVPen wrote...

Arcian wrote...

JosephDucreux wrote...

I wouldn't trust MEWiki. That place is rife with all sorts of speculation, and edits are always un-edited within half a day.

I completely agree with you concerning the wiki, but the info about Ksad Ishan being the chief overseer is legit and in the game. I don't know how many times I watched the Vigil sequence over and over again when doing research for my Prothy theory.

The Prothean's a soldier, not a scientist - he says he was completely unaware of the research and the scientists on Ilos, plus he's also never set foot on the Citadel before (till Shepard takes him there). So no, I don't believe at all that the Prothean would turn out to be Ksad Ishan.

Just to clarify, I wasn't implying Prothy = Ksad Ishan. I merely pointed out that Ksad Ishan is a real character mentioned in the game, and that he was the Chief Overseer of the Ilos project, as said by Vigil.


At the very least it gives us an idea of what a Prothean name sounds like. They seem to follow the same structure as most races: a first name and last name.

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Posté 08 février 2012 - 05:25

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Prothy's civilization was in ruins by the time he was born, I think a lot about the Protheans will be a mystery to him as well.

Also, I completely agree with Arcian about Ilos's chief overseer.
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