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The Enkindler Lives! "Remember this... soon, your memory may be all that remains." ~Javik Support Thread~


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Arcian wrote...

No one "called it". It was found in the old beta, presumably in the exact same TLK file.

No it wasn't. CTRL+F it yourself. It's not there.

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Interesting, are there any leaks in the demo?

Hes. The Prothean's name is indeed _____. It's in the TLK file from the demo (it wasn't in the leaked beta TLKs). Looks like the guy who posted about it was right.

*if you quote this post, erase the spoiler

If that's the case, I still wonder whether we will find out that name immediately, or whether he'll reveal it to Shepard later once her likes/respects/whatevers him/her enough. I haven't read anything from the leaked stuff, but Bioware's being so secretive about Prothy, it wouldn't surprise me if we find out his name more-or-less immediately once we actually play the game, even if it doesn't seem that way now.


If it were his name, I'd like to see him tell Shepard his name when he comes to like/respect him/her. Judging by the leaks, I think it would suit his character better.

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Broodypants wrote...

ReallyRue wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

LTiberious wrote...

Interesting, are there any leaks in the demo?

Hes. The Prothean's name is indeed _____. It's in the TLK file from the demo (it wasn't in the leaked beta TLKs). Looks like the guy who posted about it was right.

*if you quote this post, erase the spoiler

If that's the case, I still wonder whether we will find out that name immediately, or whether he'll reveal it to Shepard later once her likes/respects/whatevers him/her enough. I haven't read anything from the leaked stuff, but Bioware's being so secretive about Prothy, it wouldn't surprise me if we find out his name more-or-less immediately once we actually play the game, even if it doesn't seem that way now.


If it were his name, I'd like to see him tell Shepard his name when he comes to like/respect him/her. Judging by the leaks, I think it would suit his character better.


Fine by me. ^_^ From what I've read on here, I think so too. But I get to wondering when Bioware's being so shifty about saying anything about him. Considering he's DLC (presumably) and most people will want to know what they're paying for before they pay for it, combined with the fact he's in the artbook, I have to wonder why they don't just say "Hey, there's a Prothean on the team!" It could hardly be considered a huge spoiler, for the two reasons above, if nothing else.

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ReallyRue wrote...

Broodypants wrote...

ReallyRue wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

LTiberious wrote...

Interesting, are there any leaks in the demo?

Hes. The Prothean's name is indeed _____. It's in the TLK file from the demo (it wasn't in the leaked beta TLKs). Looks like the guy who posted about it was right.

*if you quote this post, erase the spoiler

If that's the case, I still wonder whether we will find out that name immediately, or whether he'll reveal it to Shepard later once her likes/respects/whatevers him/her enough. I haven't read anything from the leaked stuff, but Bioware's being so secretive about Prothy, it wouldn't surprise me if we find out his name more-or-less immediately once we actually play the game, even if it doesn't seem that way now.


If it were his name, I'd like to see him tell Shepard his name when he comes to like/respect him/her. Judging by the leaks, I think it would suit his character better.


Fine by me. ^_^ From what I've read on here, I think so too. But I get to wondering when Bioware's being so shifty about saying anything about him. Considering he's DLC (presumably) and most people will want to know what they're paying for before they pay for it, combined with the fact he's in the artbook, I have to wonder why they don't just say "Hey, there's a Prothean on the team!" It could hardly be considered a huge spoiler, for the two reasons above, if nothing else.


I agree, I mean the majority who has read the spoilers/hung around the boards most likely know that he is a squad member so why not just say it? But I think it might be all hushy because Bioware want people to be all :o when seeing Prothy? Idk, just a guess. :) 

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Broodypants wrote...

ReallyRue wrote...

Broodypants wrote...

ReallyRue wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

LTiberious wrote...

Interesting, are there any leaks in the demo?

Hes. The Prothean's name is indeed _____. It's in the TLK file from the demo (it wasn't in the leaked beta TLKs). Looks like the guy who posted about it was right.

*if you quote this post, erase the spoiler

If that's the case, I still wonder whether we will find out that name immediately, or whether he'll reveal it to Shepard later once her likes/respects/whatevers him/her enough. I haven't read anything from the leaked stuff, but Bioware's being so secretive about Prothy, it wouldn't surprise me if we find out his name more-or-less immediately once we actually play the game, even if it doesn't seem that way now.


If it were his name, I'd like to see him tell Shepard his name when he comes to like/respect him/her. Judging by the leaks, I think it would suit his character better.


Fine by me. ^_^ From what I've read on here, I think so too. But I get to wondering when Bioware's being so shifty about saying anything about him. Considering he's DLC (presumably) and most people will want to know what they're paying for before they pay for it, combined with the fact he's in the artbook, I have to wonder why they don't just say "Hey, there's a Prothean on the team!" It could hardly be considered a huge spoiler, for the two reasons above, if nothing else.


I agree, I mean the majority who has read the spoilers/hung around the boards most likely know that he is a squad member so why not just say it? But I think it might be all hushy because Bioware want people to be all :o when seeing Prothy? Idk, just a guess. :) 

Maybe, but the people on BSN, and the ones who got the CE are a minority, so the ones who have to pay for the DLC will presumably know (or want to know) who/what he is before buying him. It seems awkward and strange to attempt to make a DLC character a secret one.

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ReallyRue wrote...

Broodypants wrote...

ReallyRue wrote...

Broodypants wrote...

ReallyRue wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

LTiberious wrote...

Interesting, are there any leaks in the demo?

Hes. The Prothean's name is indeed _____. It's in the TLK file from the demo (it wasn't in the leaked beta TLKs). Looks like the guy who posted about it was right.

*if you quote this post, erase the spoiler

If that's the case, I still wonder whether we will find out that name immediately, or whether he'll reveal it to Shepard later once her likes/respects/whatevers him/her enough. I haven't read anything from the leaked stuff, but Bioware's being so secretive about Prothy, it wouldn't surprise me if we find out his name more-or-less immediately once we actually play the game, even if it doesn't seem that way now.


If it were his name, I'd like to see him tell Shepard his name when he comes to like/respect him/her. Judging by the leaks, I think it would suit his character better.


Fine by me. ^_^ From what I've read on here, I think so too. But I get to wondering when Bioware's being so shifty about saying anything about him. Considering he's DLC (presumably) and most people will want to know what they're paying for before they pay for it, combined with the fact he's in the artbook, I have to wonder why they don't just say "Hey, there's a Prothean on the team!" It could hardly be considered a huge spoiler, for the two reasons above, if nothing else.


I agree, I mean the majority who has read the spoilers/hung around the boards most likely know that he is a squad member so why not just say it? But I think it might be all hushy because Bioware want people to be all :o when seeing Prothy? Idk, just a guess. :) 

Maybe, but the people on BSN, and the ones who got the CE are a minority, so the ones who have to pay for the DLC will presumably know (or want to know) who/what he is before buying him. It seems awkward and strange to attempt to make a DLC character a secret one.


True. I suppose we'll just have to wait for news or when ME 3 is out to find out if he is the DLC or not. Hopefully not. Would prefer if he was in the vanilla game although I wouldn't object to him being a DLC, as long as I can have Prothy on my team I'll be happy. :lol:

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No one "called it". It was found in the old beta, presumably in the exact same TLK file.

No it wasn't. CTRL+F it yourself. It's not there.

The name Javik was discovered far prior to the release of the demo, meaning it was available somewhere in the old files but obviously not used in the actual script. My suspicion is that the demo's TLK file is based on an older build than that of the leaked beta, perhaps deliberately to cut down on the spoilers people can access. I've gone through the ME3 demo TLK file with a TLK tool, and it does indeed look older and thinner than the one from the leaked beta.

At this point your reply will obviously be "But they probably cut out the story information for the demo!". It doubt it works that way. I doubt it's even that easy. The easiest way to cull story information would be to load up one of the oldest TLK files available, with as little story info as possible, and then modify it to fit the gameplay info and text from the demo build. If they used a newer build, they'd either have to release it with even more story spoilers or they'd have to sit and sift through all the available information to see what to cut and what to leave in without breaking the game's text. I doubt they'd have the patience or time for the latter.

Plus, why wasn't his name in the leaked beta? If they bothered to cut out all the story information in the demo build (which they didn't, there's still some story info left in there), why did they add his name to it? Why, in the leaked script, isn't there even a single reference to his name? Why isn't there a single line of dialogue where someone asks him what his name is? Why does he sign the Citadel guy's autograph with a "P" instead of a "J"? Why wouldn't they have added his name to the art book? It's not exactly a bigger spoiler than the guy himself.

From my viewpoint, everything points to Javik being a WIP name that was abandoned somewhere along development. Names, after all, are used to distinguish people within a group. He is the only prothean there is left. He doesn't need a name to distinguish his identity - he's a prothean and only one left. For all intents and purposes, he IS his species. Therefore, THE Prothean is the best label for his identity, and I believe the likely change from Javik to The Prothean reflects this.

Of course, I could be horribly wrong. I sincerely hope I'm not. I kind of like calling him Prothy.

Modifié par Arcian, 15 février 2012 - 11:19 .


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I am going to call him "sexy guy" all the time.

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Nissun wrote...

I am going to call him "sexy guy" all the time.


If there was a like button for this post, I would like it. :P

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Arcian wrote...

The name Javik was discovered far prior to the release of the demo, meaning it was available somewhere in the old files but obviously not used in the actual script.

I AM talking about the script (as in TLK files) from leaked beta. The name was not there. It is however in the TLK file from the new official demo.

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Why isn't there a single line of dialogue where someone asks him what his name is?

maybe because the leaked files were not the final game? We estimate the leak to be as old as from around summer, between E3 and Gamescom. At that point, his name may not have even been included yet.

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Broodypants wrote...

Nissun wrote...

I am going to call him "sexy guy" all the time.


If there was a like button for this post, I would like it. :P


Me too. And I'd love to see Prothy's reaction to it. And Shepard's creepy face when calling him that. :lol:

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ReallyRue wrote...

Broodypants wrote...

Nissun wrote...

I am going to call him "sexy guy" all the time.


If there was a like button for this post, I would like it. :P


Me too. And I'd love to see Prothy's reaction to it. And Shepard's creepy face when calling him that. :lol:


I bet he'll go all sparkly eyed and blushy blushy. "Shepard-sama? :wub:"











I kid! I doubt he'd be amused. :lol:

 

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Looking at the animations in the demo - its also very old :)

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Bumpy bump.

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Bump?

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L17grim wrote...

Bump?


Bumpy Bump.

Still sad that they are not showing Prothy in the vids or whatever there can be released.


But hey, what weapons would you assign to Prothy?

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The Revenant.

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Nissun wrote...

The Revenant.

 Or the Collector rifle and the new Black widow

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Prothy gets a shotgun for me. I plan on having a triple-shotgun squad for a lot of ME3; it will be glorious.

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I like this dialog, Bioware make it happen:

Hanar: "Pardon me. This is one is lost. Could you direct me to- "
Prothean: "A hanar. I remember your kind when you were still minnows in the ocean. The...'Enkindlers' -- that is what you call us?"
Hanar (flabbergasted): "This one... is unworthy! This one has seen the face of an Enkindler! (as he goes) This one has basked in their glory… this one must spread the word!"
Shepard: "They consider your kind to be their gods."
Prothean: "A pity we did not teach them to speak better."

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Ok, I'll elaborate further. After all, the Revenant is cool, but it's not my favorite.

I think submachine gun + shotgun would be an awesome combination for him. Like Thane, but with a short-range weapon instead of a sniper rifle.

But of course I don't actually know how the weapons assignation will work in ME3. Will we be able to give a Widow rifle to, say, Garrus? (If we can, I think I'm going to faint)

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LTiberious wrote...

L17grim wrote...

Bump?


Bumpy Bump.

Still sad that they are not showing Prothy in the vids or whatever there can be released.


But hey, what weapons would you assign to Prothy?



We got to see his shoulder... that's something...right?

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Prothy gets a shotgun for me. I plan on having a triple-shotgun squad for a lot of ME3; it will be glorious.


Thats sounds...amazing...

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Ok, I'll elaborate further. After all, the Revenant is cool, but it's not my favorite.

I think submachine gun + shotgun would be an awesome combination for him. Like Thane, but with a short-range weapon instead of a sniper rifle.

But of course I don't actually know how the weapons assignation will work in ME3. Will we be able to give a Widow rifle to, say, Garrus? (If we can, I think I'm going to faint)


If the Mattock is still anywhere as good he'll rock that, and a shotgun. I want biotic killing machine! Liara will rock a SMG, heavy pistol combo.

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L17grim wrote...

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Prothy gets a shotgun for me. I plan on having a triple-shotgun squad for a lot of ME3; it will be glorious.


Thats sounds...amazing...

Oh, it will be. Cerberus and the Reapers don't stand a chance.