Arcian, thank you for a very interesting read. I don't know what to believe yet regarding the possibility of a Prothean squad mate, but at the very least it seems sensible to think that there might be at least one survivor of the species out there. I also like the idea of Keiji's greybox tying into this.
I just wanted to draw your attention to the fact that the Cerberus Daily News is currently (to my knowledge) being operated by fans, so all recent updates (anything posted after March 28th 2011, if the Mass Effect wiki is accurate) are unofficial. You may want to reconsider using the entry on the ruins in support of your theory. If you go to www.cerberusdailynews.com/ you can read about this on the right hand side of the screen.
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Posté 24 octobre 2011 - 02:28
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You must have missed this from the OP:Yves Adele Harlow wrote...
Arcian, thank you for a very interesting read. I don't know what to believe yet regarding the possibility of a Prothean squad mate, but at the very least it seems sensible to think that there might be at least one survivor of the species out there. I also like the idea of Keiji's greybox tying into this.
I just wanted to draw your attention to the fact that the Cerberus Daily News is currently (to my knowledge) being operated by fans, so all recent updates (anything posted after March 28th 2011, if the Mass Effect wiki is accurate) are unofficial. You may want to reconsider using the entry on the ruins in support of your theory. If you go to www.cerberusdailynews.com/ you can read about this on the right hand side of the screen.
That's the 10th of January, 2011, and not the first of October, 2011.Arcian wrote...
This Cerberus Daily News story is also noteworthy:01/10/2011 - Scientists on Mars Assess New Chamber in Prothean Ruins
“Controversy brews tonight as scientists on Mars assess the contents of a newly opened chamber in the Prothean ruins. The opening has been a dream of exoarchaeologists for decades, delayed by the many steps necessary to replicate Prothean code keys and crack the cryptography for entry. Critics say the Milky Way Foundation, which provided supercomputers for the cryptanalysis, could hoard any Prothean discoveries. Dr. Unira T'Lam, liaison from the Citadel Committee on Paleotechnology, says she's been kept in the dark. "Foundation personnel have orchestrated a security system that keeps out everyone except a select cabal," she accuses. "Anything could be taken from inside and we'd never know." Dr. Ilsa Warren, who heads the analysis unit, dismisses the allegation. "We've made it clear all technology stays in situ throughout the cataloging and analysis process, which could take years," she says. "Dr. T'Lam's fears would be more appropriate closer to the end of the decade."”
If you're still having doubts, here is the story as archived in the January section of the wiki.
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Posté 24 octobre 2011 - 03:18
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That's the 10th of January, 2011, and not the first of October, 2011.
Ah! My mistake. Date notations can be confusing that way. I didn't bother going through the news items to check when that one was posted. Thanks for clearing that up.
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[quote]IsaacShep wrote...
[quote]Mesina2 wrote...
Prothean Squadmate Theory part 1
Prothean Squadmate Theory part 2
[/quote]Just watched, very very interesting
[/quote] Ok, lil uptade on my thoughts. One thing in the theory that I don't agree with is that they were building the backdor relay to the Citadel on purpouse, to counter potential Reaper attack. If they knew the Reapers were coming and if they were trying to have an emergency access to the Citadel, then they would know Reapers would take over the Citadel and they would never let their leaders remain on it. Vigil says the attack was a surprise and their leaders were killed (on the Citadel) before anyone even realized they were under attack.
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Prothean Squadmate Theory part 1
Prothean Squadmate Theory part 2
[/quote]Just watched, very very interesting
[/quote] Ok, lil uptade on my thoughts. One thing in the theory that I don't agree with is that they were building the backdor relay to the Citadel on purpouse, to counter potential Reaper attack. If they knew the Reapers were coming and if they were trying to have an emergency access to the Citadel, then they would know Reapers would take over the Citadel and they would never let their leaders remain on it. Vigil says the attack was a surprise and their leaders were killed (on the Citadel) before anyone even realized they were under attack.[/quote]
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That's what I'm here for.Yves Adele Harlow wrote...
Arcian wrote...
That's the 10th of January, 2011, and not the first of October, 2011.
Ah! My mistake. Date notations can be confusing that way. I didn't bother going through the news items to check when that one was posted. Thanks for clearing that up.
The reaper attack was a "known unknown". Basically, they know an attack will happen, but they don't know when, where or how. Since they know that the previous races who held the Citadel was eventually overcome by this threat, they can assume that the Citadel is not the impregnable fortress they have always assumed and therefore not a reliable sanctuary for when the attack comes.IsaacShep wrote...
Ok, lil uptade on my thoughts. One thing in the theory that I don't agree with is that they were building the backdor relay to the Citadel on purpouse, to counter potential Reaper attack. If they knew the Reapers were coming and if they were trying to have an emergency access to the Citadel, then they would know Reapers would take over the Citadel and they would never let their leaders remain on it. Vigil says the attack was a surprise and their leaders were killed (on the Citadel) before anyone even realized they were under attack.
They have no idea when it will happen, and that is really their biggest disadvantage. They also assume that the where will not be the Citadel, as the Citadel is at the heart of their Empire and that every single relay route is heavily patrolled by prothean warships. Note that they are as of yet unaware of the Citadel's secondary function (even if they are most likely aware of the hidden signal frequency in the keepers).
Therefore, with the Conduit in place, if reports come in of an invasion force, they can close the arms, evacuate the leaders and then hold out for as long as possible until the Citadel is lost (as it is inevitable that the invaders will go for the Citadel first, as has been the case in the previous cycles), and then plan the counterattack from Ilos, which is a remote and relatively unimportant world.
That's where the how comes into play. They could never have anticipated that the Citadel itself was the relay that would usher in the invasion. With Reapers spawning in the immediate vicinity of the station, they don't have the ability to close the arms in time (and really, what good would that do anyway?), and their leaders end up killed.
Much later, the team on Ilos receives word that the invaders emerged from the Citadel rather from the edge of the galaxy, which gives them the clue that "Hey, that signal frequency we found embedded in keeper genetic material? That must be what triggered the station's secondary function." So they go to sleep, wake up 300 years later and spend a few decades cracking the method behind altering the keeper frequency. They then use the Conduit to get on the Citadel to put this method to use, and after that we have no idea what happened to them.
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Bump disguised as a valid question:
What class would you like Prothy to be, and what skills would he/she have?
I'd have to say Sentinel myself, with a unique version of the tech armor.
What class would you like Prothy to be, and what skills would he/she have?
I'd have to say Sentinel myself, with a unique version of the tech armor.
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Posté 07 novembre 2011 - 02:57
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Skimming the ME3 plot rough draft.
Fellas, Prothy just got confirmed.
Fellas, Prothy just got confirmed.
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Posté 07 novembre 2011 - 06:54
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For real?
Ugh, Cheez make that a last spoiler you're saying.
Except for Legion. Is Legion a squadmate?
Ugh, Cheez make that a last spoiler you're saying.
Except for Legion. Is Legion a squadmate?
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Posté 07 novembre 2011 - 07:32
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This is my last spoiler I will say outright, but yes, he's definitely in.
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Posté 07 novembre 2011 - 07:34
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Mesina2 wrote...
For real?
Ugh, Cheez make that a last spoiler you're saying.
Except for Legion. Is Legion a squadmate?
I'm not big on shouting spoilers, but I will say Casey Hudson is very on the money when he says there are no permanent squad members in war. Especially if this leak is right. Take that as you will, but that's all I'll say in public.
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Pfft, was there ever any doubt?AdmiralCheez wrote...
This is my last spoiler I will say outright, but yes, he's definitely in.
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Could someone please PM me with the lines about Prothy, please? Cause I still haven't been able to find this damn script x)
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Could someone please PM me with the lines about Prothy, please? Cause I still haven't been able to find this damn script x)
The script doesn't include any lines at all, actually. I think it at one point said something about "Shepard talks with the Prothean."
And if you're interested, it seems like Kai Leng will capture the prothean and take him to Cerberus regardless of what you do.
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I knew it! Wooo!! Prothean!
*goes to sit down*
*goes to sit down*
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When I read that part of the leak, I did, in fact, **** brix. This is Legit. Now if only we could get Blasto....AdmiralCheez wrote...
Skimming the ME3 plot rough draft.
Fellas, Prothy just got confirmed.
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Temp. But I don't wanna give anything away, his bit seemed likely and it was well developed, I thought. Serious Emotional moment.Mesina2 wrote...
For real?
Ugh, Cheez make that a last spoiler you're saying.
Except for Legion. Is Legion a squadmate?
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Sit down? We should be dancing in the streets to celebrate!Thargorichiban wrote...
I knew it! Wooo!! Prothean!
*goes to sit down*
I TOLD YOU, BROS. I TOLD YOU ABOUT THE PROTHEAN. IT KEEPS HAPPENING.
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^Though it does strikes me that they put Prothy as DLC character.
Does that leaked script pre-dates that CE info or they changed his/hers plot to make it not integrated to ME3 plot later on and made as DLC?
Does that leaked script pre-dates that CE info or they changed his/hers plot to make it not integrated to ME3 plot later on and made as DLC?
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He is WAY too important to the main plot to be a DLC character.Mesina2 wrote...
^Though it does strikes me that they put Prothy as DLC character.
Does that leaked script pre-dates that CE info or they changed his/hers plot to make it not integrated to ME3 plot later on and made as DLC?
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Posté 10 novembre 2011 - 09:28
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^Not my point.
What if Bioware changed that during development and made him a DLC character instead and not too important to plot?
What if Bioware changed that during development and made him a DLC character instead and not too important to plot?
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Posté 10 novembre 2011 - 12:08
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^Not my point.
What if Bioware changed that during development and made him a DLC character instead and not too important to plot?
So he was DLC at E3, then he wasn't DLC, now he's DLC again?
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Posté 10 novembre 2011 - 12:53
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Zeed and Kasumi were probably supposed to be in the original as well but were made DLC for $
