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AdmiralCheez wrote...

Thane and Kaidan are both older than Shepard (and Thane's character development, especially if you romance him, is similar to Prothy's). And yes, Wrex's alignment is indeed changed thanks to Shep--when we meet him in ME1, he's a mercenary that has given up hope that his people will ever get their sh*t together. Now, had he not been to Virmire, had he not had a hand in Sovereign's defeat, do you think he would have ever gone back to Tuchanka?

Note that if you don't recruit him, you don't meet him in ME2.

As for the last part, hey, whatever floats your boat. Me? I'm a fan of redemption stories, of finding a reason to live in a dark universe with no real purpose, of finding a reason for hope in the face of inevitable death. It's part and parcel of the "optimistic atheist" thing I've got going--it's nice to see it reflected in a videogame.

I also like the odd couple, and in my headcanon, everyone on my squad will one day be best bros with everyone else.

Thankfully, you can totally do the other path and get the fate you want. That's the lovely thing about Mass Effect, and I must say your preferred ending is just as appealing.

EDIT: GOD DAMN IT WOMAN STOP EDITING YOUR POSTS I CAN'T KEEP UP WITH ALL THE NEW POINTS.


Kaidan can only be changed if you romance him (which to me is enough of a reason for his alignment to be changed) and it doesn't stick either. (hello Me2) Same with Ash.

Wrex alignment wasn't changed. He's still renegade. He just didn't give up hope on his people. (Which he clearly never did since he was in such a hurry to cure them in the first place. He just needed a trigger to help him realize that (Virmire was said trigger).)

Probably because the devs couldn't be bothered writing alternate dialogue (I mean for the love of pete Garrus defaults to old times dialogue regardless of whether you recruited him or not.)

Eh I like redemptions stories just fine. I don't like them when they feel well to me lackluster. And that's how the ending feels to me. Very lackluster.

Well in my HC some of them like each other and others would be all to happy to shove a knife in each other ribs the second Shep looked away. I'm not fond of the "one big family" trope. Because hell even in families some members hate each other.
Except it's not the fate I want. He dies sure but not for the reasons I'd prefer (and not in the situation I'd prefer either). I want him to go out fighting. Not deciding after all is said and done it's time for him to kick the bucket. That strikes me as ridculous as Tali's jumping off a damn cliff. A true renegade takes down as many enemies as possible before he kicks the bucket. And there will always be enemies threatening organics. Hell hunting down the remaining indoctrinated threats and such and being taken out by a large group of them would've sufficed.

Then again I have a thing against what I consider throwaway deaths.


:P

Modifié par Ryzaki, 20 février 2012 - 05:18 .


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You are difficult to please, Ryzaki.

The problem here is that you are assuming that one line actually determines Prothy's fate. Yeah, the renegade one seems pretty final, but the paragon one? More like he's rattling off ideas. Note the "perhaps/suggests/believes/could." Taken in context with the hanar line, he probably doesn't take it too seriously.

As for Wrex, yeah he's still "renegade," but that classification is silly to use on anyone other than Shepard. Thing is, though, had he not had those experiences with Shepard, he would never have experienced the character development.

My headcanon is really stupid and flowery and sappy. That's why I don't write fanfic.

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With this diolage you guys are talking about does that mean he is not dlc? The two dlc from me2 had zero interaction with the other squadies so if he interacts with the others...

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Not at all. Read my edit :P

I just dislike that the living ending is only paragon. Frankly I would've preferred a move on/stay in the past variation ending of both (live and die) because frankly that thing should not be relegated to paragon/renegade. It shouldn't. it's one of the reasons I vastly prefer DAO. They don't simplify things like that.

Not arguing that.Though while traveling with Shepard caused the realization Shepard himself didn't plant the realization in Wrex's head. Thus to me it's far different then Shepard's "Go speak to your sister Miranda." "Don't let your past control you Jack." Wrex realizes it on his own. With the others Shep pretty much shoves them in the direction he wants them to go in. Wrex makes his decision on his own terms the others do it on Shepard's.

Yeah it's giving me cavities. :P

Modifié par Ryzaki, 20 février 2012 - 05:26 .


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Wrex hasn't been cool ever since he started dating that krogan chick. Now he won't hang out with me or answer my calls.

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mrsph wrote...

Wrex hasn't been cool ever since he started dating that krogan chick. Now he won't hang out with me or answer my calls.


Eve is just too much Krogan for Wrex to handle... We all know she has is quad in a vicegrip.

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So to go the paragon route he has to befriend Liara?

Fu*ck. I hope it's just a situation like Tali/Legion and Jack/Miranda. Because I plan on skipping Liara's every single line of dialogue, and I don't want to press x and accidentaly skip one of Prothy's lines :(

Also, don't know why so many people thought the voice was Phil Lamar's. He sounds nothing like him to me. And it's been a while since I last watched Lost, but the accent is very very similar to the one Mr.Eko had. Can't tell if it's the same actor, though, with the distortion and the fact that I don't remember very well.




Also, he won't be free DLC, right? Like Zaeed was? Because if I have to pay 70€ for the game and then another 8€ for an extra character, well fu*ck me because it's Prothy and I am going to NEED Prothy. But that will be the only piece of Mass Effect 3 DLC I buy. Seriously, they would have to create one hell of an extra DLC for me to buy anything after this.

Modifié par Nissun, 20 février 2012 - 08:00 .


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Nissun wrote...

and I don't want to press x and accidentaly skip one of Prothy's lines :(

You might also accidentally Jason.

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Lets hope he is in them main game

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LTiberious wrote...

Lets hope he is in them main game

Well unless they advertise the DLC within the coming two weeks, it's rather unlikely he'll be DLC. Zaeed was advertised maybe a month before ME2 was released, so yeah...

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Arcian wrote...

LTiberious wrote...

Lets hope he is in them main game

Well unless they advertise the DLC within the coming two weeks, it's rather unlikely he'll be DLC. Zaeed was advertised maybe a month before ME2 was released, so yeah...


Well, they aren't advertising EDI (who is a DLC squadmate).

They arent advertising any of the DLC squadmates

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you know once the game releases I can't help but feel this thread is going to get a lot of hate seeing on how a lot of people hate the idea of a Prothean in the game... I really hope they don't.

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NNC FROSTY wrote...

you know once the game releases I can't help but feel this thread is going to get a lot of hate seeing on how a lot of people hate the idea of a Prothean in the game... I really hope they don't.


Well... 

1: Thats why they arent advertising Prothy (maaaybe)
2: Well, we all know that its the BSN

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LTiberious wrote...

NNC FROSTY wrote...

you know once the game releases I can't help but feel this thread is going to get a lot of hate seeing on how a lot of people hate the idea of a Prothean in the game... I really hope they don't.


Well... 

1: Thats why they arent advertising Prothy (maaaybe)
2: Well, we all know that its the BSN



Too true, atleast its not like Gamefaqs where most faq goers consider it illegal to be poor.

I guess we better nejoy this peace and harmony while we can over our Renegade Bad*** who will be the best squadmate :)

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LTiberious wrote...

Arcian wrote...

LTiberious wrote...

Lets hope he is in them main game

Well unless they advertise the DLC within the coming two weeks, it's rather unlikely he'll be DLC. Zaeed was advertised maybe a month before ME2 was released, so yeah...


Well, they aren't advertising EDI (who is a DLC squadmate).

They arent advertising any of the DLC squadmates

EDI isn't a DLC squadmate. Where did you get that idea?

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Arcian wrote...

LTiberious wrote...

Arcian wrote...

LTiberious wrote...

Lets hope he is in them main game

Well unless they advertise the DLC within the coming two weeks, it's rather unlikely he'll be DLC. Zaeed was advertised maybe a month before ME2 was released, so yeah...


Well, they aren't advertising EDI (who is a DLC squadmate).

They arent advertising any of the DLC squadmates

EDI isn't a DLC squadmate. Where did you get that idea?


Well, counting that the addition of EDI's body  wouldnt change much in the plot... 

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LTiberious wrote...

Arcian wrote...

LTiberious wrote...

Arcian wrote...

LTiberious wrote...

Lets hope he is in them main game

Well unless they advertise the DLC within the coming two weeks, it's rather unlikely he'll be DLC. Zaeed was advertised maybe a month before ME2 was released, so yeah...


Well, they aren't advertising EDI (who is a DLC squadmate).

They arent advertising any of the DLC squadmates

EDI isn't a DLC squadmate. Where did you get that idea?


Well, counting that the addition of EDI's body  wouldnt change much in the plot... 




Well the way she gets her body kinda ties into the game... atleast what I've gotten from this thread and Arcian

Modifié par NNC FROSTY, 20 février 2012 - 12:49 .


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NNC FROSTY wrote...

LTiberious wrote...

Arcian wrote...

LTiberious wrote...

Arcian wrote...

LTiberious wrote...

Lets hope he is in them main game

Well unless they advertise the DLC within the coming two weeks, it's rather unlikely he'll be DLC. Zaeed was advertised maybe a month before ME2 was released, so yeah...


Well, they aren't advertising EDI (who is a DLC squadmate).

They arent advertising any of the DLC squadmates

EDI isn't a DLC squadmate. Where did you get that idea?


Well, counting that the addition of EDI's body  wouldnt change much in the plot... 




Well the way she gets her body kinda ties into the game... atleast what I've gotten from this thread and Arcian


Well, even then - we dont have any other options of DLC squaddies.

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LTiberious wrote...

Well, even then - we dont have any other options of DLC squaddies.




well there is still speculation to the big ben sniper and a bartarian? I'm not saying there possible, but in the vide i saw advertizing the Collectors edition they showed a fuzy picture of the DLC character. from what I saw it didn't look like the Prothean.

Heres a link.

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NNC FROSTY wrote...

LTiberious wrote...

Well, even then - we dont have any other options of DLC squaddies.




well there is still speculation to the big ben sniper and a bartarian? I'm not saying there possible, but in the vide i saw advertizing the Collectors edition they showed a fuzy picture of the DLC character. from what I saw it didn't look like the Prothean.

Heres a link.

You serious about the Fuzzy picture meaning something?


Lets get this straight:

1: No Ads of ANY dlc squaddies.
2: No info either
3: No new characters in the Art Book (we got a confirmation on EDI+Prothy, and thats about it)

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LTiberious wrote...

NNC FROSTY wrote...

LTiberious wrote...

Well, even then - we dont have any other options of DLC squaddies.




well there is still speculation to the big ben sniper and a bartarian? I'm not saying there possible, but in the vide i saw advertizing the Collectors edition they showed a fuzy picture of the DLC character. from what I saw it didn't look like the Prothean.

Heres a link.

You serious about the Fuzzy picture meaning something?


Lets get this straight:

1: No Ads of ANY dlc squaddies.
2: No info either
3: No new characters in the Art Book (we got a confirmation on EDI+Prothy, and thats about it)



Well generally the DLC squadies aren't in the art book since they are added on later. So I am willing to bet a 80% chance prothy may not be the DLC squaddie, and EDI is definitly NOT DLC.. but eh I've been known to contract the stupid so don't quote me on this.

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BTW no CE DLC squadmate atleast here http://masseffect.co...out/collectors/

http://masseffect.com/about/story/
Wait, Anderson is a squaddie? o_O

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Yeah, DLC squaddies from ME2 arent in the artbook. Then.... Edi...Prothy... In the main game... Omg.


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Yet, the problem is - who are the 2 squaddies then who are DLC?

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LTiberious wrote...

BTW no CE DLC squadmate atleast here http://masseffect.co...out/collectors/

http://masseffect.com/about/story/
Wait, Anderson is a squaddie? o_O

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Yeah, DLC squaddies from ME2 arent in the artbook. Then.... Edi...Prothy... In the main game... Omg.


///
Yet, the problem is - who are the 2 squaddies then who are DLC?


at the time there is only one DLC character, I'm not sure where you are getting 2 DLC squaddies from....

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BTW - we already have 6 announced perm squaddies.
+2 from DLC makes it 8.

And then they said that 12 in ME2 were tooo much.

So its really not propable that we will see the same amount of squaddies in Me3.

8 perm+2dlc=10. Its almost the same as in ME2.

hmm

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NNC FROSTY wrote...

LTiberious wrote...

BTW no CE DLC squadmate atleast here http://masseffect.co...out/collectors/

http://masseffect.com/about/story/
Wait, Anderson is a squaddie? o_O

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Yeah, DLC squaddies from ME2 arent in the artbook. Then.... Edi...Prothy... In the main game... Omg.


///
Yet, the problem is - who are the 2 squaddies then who are DLC?


at the time there is only one DLC character, I'm not sure where you are getting 2 DLC squaddies from....


1? Wait, no CE special Squaddie?

Then fine