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AxisEvolve wrote...

- The content in “From Ashes” was developed by a separate team (after the core game was finished) and not completed until well after the main game went into certification.

Somehow, I actually have a hard time believing that. :?

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AxisEvolve wrote...

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Would it be possible to do any of those things, so close to the release date?

Doubtful..
But we do however get a new weapon, appearance pack, mission, ect. In addition with Prothy :wizard:



Do we have any knowledge about the weapon? It'd be amazing if it is prothean-made.

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I am not going to let this get me down about the game however, I am sure that Bioware have put their all into its creation and it will be a great finale to an epic game :)

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I hope that there  is lots of  juicy Prothy lore though included :P

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Get fired up wrote...
Do we have any knowledge about the weapon? It'd be amazing if it is prothean-made.

Hmmm... it might be the Reaper weapon in the artbook. 

But a Prothean one would make more sense. 


AVPen wrote...

AxisEvolve wrote...

- The content in “From Ashes” was developed by a separate team (after the core game was finished) and not completed until well after the main game went into certification.

Somehow, I actually have a hard time believing that. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/uncertain.png[/smilie]

Yeah I think he could have worded that a bit better.. 

I would have said this:
"The content in “From Ashes” was being developed by a separate team during the creation of the main game, but was not completed until well after the main game went into certification "

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Get fired up wrote...

AxisEvolve wrote...

ReallyRue wrote...
Would it be possible to do any of those things, so close to the release date?

Doubtful..
But we do however get a new weapon, appearance pack, mission, ect. In addition with Prothy :wizard:



Do we have any knowledge about the weapon? It'd be amazing if it is prothean-made.

The weapons are N7 weapons (see the trailer about the CC) and not Prothean made, thou we do get in the game a neat Reaper Heavy weapon (Collector heavy weapon and singularity gun put in one round fire just like the nuke gun).

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AxisEvolve wrote...

Dr Wrex wrote...

This is much more acceptable, however I am still concerned that a prothean in the game is being played down and sidelined a bit, however I cant make any kind of speculation will have to wait and see what happens I guess.

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This kind of worries me. I was hoping he was in the game no matter what and that the DLC just put him in your squad.

Same here...and now I really can't understand how can he be really important for the plot; well, it's strange but I'm really hoping that he's been cut from the main game just to make some money....and I hate Bioware for making me hope that!

Modifié par sirdario1986, 22 février 2012 - 11:14 .


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The Tesla Effect wrote...
The weapons are N7 weapons (see the trailer about the CC) and not Prothean made, thou we do get in the game a neat Reaper Heavy weapon (Collector heavy weapon and singularity gun put in one round fire just like the nuke gun).

We only get one new weapon with Prothy. So I don't think it's anything in the N7 pack.

It's probably something new like the Appearance Pack.. But we'll find out.

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AxisEvolve wrote...

The Tesla Effect wrote...
The weapons are N7 weapons (see the trailer about the CC) and not Prothean made, thou we do get in the game a neat Reaper Heavy weapon (Collector heavy weapon and singularity gun put in one round fire just like the nuke gun).

We only get one new weapon with Prothy. So I don't think it's anything in the N7 pack.

It's probably something new like the Appearance Pack.. But we'll find out.


Maybe it's a Collector Assault Rifle. That'd be bloody hilarious.

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sirdario1986 wrote...

AxisEvolve wrote...

Dr Wrex wrote...

This is much more acceptable, however I am still concerned that a prothean in the game is being played down and sidelined a bit, however I cant make any kind of speculation will have to wait and see what happens I guess.

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This kind of worries me. I was hoping he was in the game no matter what and that the DLC just put him in your squad.

Same here...and now I really can't understand how can he be really important for the plot; well, it's strange but I'm really hoping that he's been cut from the main game just to make some money....and I hate Bioware for making me hope that!

He will be part of the story, just not a full party member with all the mission dialog.

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sirdario1986 wrote...

AxisEvolve wrote...

Dr Wrex wrote...

This is much more acceptable, however I am still concerned that a prothean in the game is being played down and sidelined a bit, however I cant make any kind of speculation will have to wait and see what happens I guess.

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This kind of worries me. I was hoping he was in the game no matter what and that the DLC just put him in your squad.

Same here...and now I really can't understand how can he be really important for the plot; well, it's strange but I'm really hoping that he's been cut from the main game just to make some money....and I hate Bioware for making me hope that!

 

If the demo is the final build then that hints that he has A LOT of files in the main game. So what if installing the DLC also activates those files (dialog, banter, cut scenes? ect.) that are stored on the disc?

Eden Prime and his "loyalty mission" could be a pretty big chunk of that download. Along with the appearance pack, weapon. This could easily account for the the 600 megabyte download.

This is really my last hope, that the game draws upon additional files within the main game in conjuction with the "From Ashes" to make him fully integral to the story.

Modifié par AxisEvolve, 22 février 2012 - 11:22 .


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Volc19 wrote...

AxisEvolve wrote...

The Tesla Effect wrote...
The weapons are N7 weapons (see the trailer about the CC) and not Prothean made, thou we do get in the game a neat Reaper Heavy weapon (Collector heavy weapon and singularity gun put in one round fire just like the nuke gun).

We only get one new weapon with Prothy. So I don't think it's anything in the N7 pack.

It's probably something new like the Appearance Pack.. But we'll find out.


Maybe it's a Collector Assault Rifle. That'd be bloody hilarious.

You get the Collector Assault Rifle when you buy The art of Mass Effect Universe.

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Wow, that is an awesomely big DLC!

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The Tesla Effect wrote...
You get the Collector Assault Rifle when you buy The art of Mass Effect Universe.

You also get a Collector Assault rifle for ordering any of these.

www.razerzone.com/me3


Apparently you can activate several of them and they basically upgrade the gun.


"Yo dawg, I herd you like Collector Assault Rifles. So I put a Collector Assault Rifle in yo Collector Assault rifle so u can shoot while u shoot."

^Xbibit meme fail :alien:

Modifié par AxisEvolve, 22 février 2012 - 11:28 .


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AxisEvolve wrote...

sirdario1986 wrote...

AxisEvolve wrote...

Dr Wrex wrote...

This is much more acceptable, however I am still concerned that a prothean in the game is being played down and sidelined a bit, however I cant make any kind of speculation will have to wait and see what happens I guess.

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This kind of worries me. I was hoping he was in the game no matter what and that the DLC just put him in your squad.

Same here...and now I really can't understand how can he be really important for the plot; well, it's strange but I'm really hoping that he's been cut from the main game just to make some money....and I hate Bioware for making me hope that!

 

If the demo is the final build then that hints that he has A LOT of files in the main game. So what if installing the DLC also activates those files (dialog, banter, cut scenes? ect.) that are stored on the disc?

Eden Prime and his "loyalty mission" could be a pretty big chunk of that download. Along with the appearance pack, weapon. This could easily account for the the 600 megabyte download.

This is really my last hope, that the game draws upon additional files within the main game in conjuction with the "From Ashes" to make him fully integral to the story. 

Yeah but...this would mean that there are a few files contained in the main game that are locked! And that can be unlocked for free only if you buy CE, if not you've to pay more to gain the access to files which are already in your disc!
Ok, then you( Bioware, I mean) can tell me that the game was complete and then you built in it some more files just to let the DLC be most integral as possible, so the game would be more than complete; and then you could tell me that I can breathe under water or that I can speak with my elbow.

Modifié par sirdario1986, 22 février 2012 - 11:34 .


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AxisEvolve wrote...

The Tesla Effect wrote...
You get the Collector Assault Rifle when you buy The art of Mass Effect Universe.

You also get a Collector Assault rifle for ordering any of these.

www.razerzone.com/me3


Apparently you can activate several of them and they basically upgrade the gun.


"Yo dawg, I herd you like Collector Assault Rifles. So I put a Collector Assault Rifle in yo Collector Assault rifle so u can shoot while u shoot."

^Xbibit meme fail :alien:

Im not buying all that (maybe the artbook) just to get the rifle. Even if had it in the game, Prothy only uses shotguns and heavy pistols, so there goes all the fun of having Prothy with that weapon.

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AxisEvolve wrote...

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I can see that, say, he could be an integral part of the plot, BUT, if you purchase the DLC (which everyone will no matter how much they whine) you'll get a huge mission with him, and him as a permanent squadmate whom you can have proper conversations with (Cough* Kasumi and Zaeed *Cough).

However, I still hold that he could be entirely DLC.
Either way it doesn't matter since I got the Collector's Edition on the bag. :D

Yep...

Also, since it appears his dialog and people's reactions to him are in the main games files (the demo at least). That may mean the 600 mb (?) sized download doesn't include that. Making his part in the game (and recruitment mission?) bigger than many expect.


It's seems like just about everything concerning the prothean is disc locked content. This is like what happened with Gears of War 3, the first 3 DLC's were on the disc, you just had to pay to unlock them. I don't know which is more ridiculous, the fact that developers do this to their fans, or the fact that the fans still end up giving them our money. That said, of course I'll be purchasing the DLC, I'd just prefer it had been left on the disc and available to every customer in the first place.

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AnthonyAllen159 wrote...

AxisEvolve wrote...

Luan wrote...
I can see that, say, he could be an integral part of the plot, BUT, if you purchase the DLC (which everyone will no matter how much they whine) you'll get a huge mission with him, and him as a permanent squadmate whom you can have proper conversations with (Cough* Kasumi and Zaeed *Cough).

However, I still hold that he could be entirely DLC.
Either way it doesn't matter since I got the Collector's Edition on the bag. :D

Yep...

Also, since it appears his dialog and people's reactions to him are in the main games files (the demo at least). That may mean the 600 mb (?) sized download doesn't include that. Making his part in the game (and recruitment mission?) bigger than many expect.


It's seems like just about everything concerning the prothean is disc locked content. This is like what happened with Gears of War 3, the first 3 DLC's were on the disc, you just had to pay to unlock them. I don't know which is more ridiculous, the fact that developers do this to their fans, or the fact that the fans still end up giving them our money. That said, of course I'll be purchasing the DLC, I'd just prefer it had been left on the disc and available to every customer in the first place.


They may be on the disc, but that doesn't mean they were made with the game. BW said that From Ashes was made by a separate team after the game was already in certification. Plus, it's a 600MB download, I don't think it was in the disc.

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I agree that putting locked content on the disc is wrong, but my point was that we hopefully get to see The Prothean playing a larger part than is expected.

While I've been disappointed with how Prothy has been handled, I have not become angry. If the files on the main game were there but disregarded then that would give me cause to become upset.

Games like Call of Duty have been putting their DLC (map packs) on their game discs for years. It is nothing new but it is indeed a shame.

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Im not buying all that (maybe the artbook) just to get the rifle. Even if had it in the game, Prothy only uses shotguns and heavy pistols, so there goes all the fun of having Prothy with that weapon.

It's confirmed these are his only weapons? I thought he would be shotgun/AR like Wrex. Oh well, I'm probably going to basically just have him use shotguns anyway.

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Luan wrote...

They may be on the disc, but that doesn't mean they were made with the game. BW said that From Ashes was made by a separate team after the game was already in certification. Plus, it's a 600MB download, I don't think it was in the disc.


600MB seems far too small, especially when you factor in the weapon and alternate appearance pack. Even moreso when you compare this to Lair of the Shadowbroker's 1.5GB size.

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Cthulhu42 wrote...

The Tesla Effect wrote...

Im not buying all that (maybe the artbook) just to get the rifle. Even if had it in the game, Prothy only uses shotguns and heavy pistols, so there goes all the fun of having Prothy with that weapon.

It's confirmed these are his only weapons? I thought he would be shotgun/AR like Wrex. Oh well, I'm probably going to basically just have him use shotguns anyway.

Extracted data from the demo files:
"(className=SFXPawn_Prothean,Weaponclasses=(LoadoutWeapons_HeavyPistols,LoadoutWeapons_Shotguns))",

Modifié par AVPen, 23 février 2012 - 12:00 .


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[quote]AnthonyAllen159 wrote...



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They may be on the disc, but that doesn't mean they were made with the game. BW said that From Ashes was made by a separate team after the game was already in certification. Plus, it's a 600MB download, I don't think it was in the disc.

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600MB seems far too small, especially when you factor in the weapon and alternate appearance pack. Even moreso when you compare this to Lair of the Shadowbroker's 1.5GB size.

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Its just like what they did in DA2, this isnt new for Bioware but come on, why Prothy as the DLC.

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AxisEvolve wrote...

I agree that putting locked content on the disc is wrong, but my point was that we hopefully get to see The Prothean playing a larger part than is expected.

While I've been disappointed with how Prothy has been handled, I have not become angry. If the files on the main game were there but disregarded then that would give me cause to become upset.

Games like Call of Duty have been putting their DLC (map packs) on their game discs for years. It is nothing new but it is indeed a shame.

Wait, don't get me wrong, I'm really excited for this DLC and not angry; I've bought the CE months ago but even if I wouldn't have done that, I think I'd buy From ashes on day one, with no remorse.
I'm so happy to have the chance to recruit a Prothean; I'm just afraid that he won't be such important as I think he should be and Zaeed nightmares are scaring me.
I also think that complaining for thousands of pages is useless, can't understand why people are unable to be a little polite, even when they have to do some complaints.
So, in the end, I agree with you, 
we hopefully get to see The Prothean playing a larger part than is expected; now I just need to skip to friday and get those pictures and informations about the DLC!

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AxisEvolve wrote...

I agree that putting locked content on the disc is wrong, but my point was that we hopefully get to see The Prothean playing a larger part than is expected.

While I've been disappointed with how Prothy has been handled, I have not become angry. If the files on the main game were there but disregarded then that would give me cause to become upset.

Games like Call of Duty have been putting their DLC (map packs) on their game discs for years. It is nothing new but it is indeed a shame.


Well...

TB boycotted the game. If more people will - they may change their mind.

Otherwise - the same treatment as the codbabies