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[Someone With Mass]

BentOrgy wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

You see, the Protheans weren't one specific race.

Huh.....

https://twitter.com/...235612204695552

Yeah, stating otherwise would be kind of a massive spoiler.

[BentOrgy]

Someone With Mass wrote...

BentOrgy wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

You see, the Protheans weren't one specific race.

Huh.....

https://twitter.com/...235612204695552

Yeah, stating otherwise would be kind of a massive spoiler.

I'm reading the script right now, and I'm not running across anything that states the Protheans were more than one race. Infact, its the opposite;

*Spoiler*

In example; the Cipher comes back (Thank God, I was worried they were cutting it out because Feros was dropped in Genesis.) and a henchmen (As they're referred to in the script.) says that because of the Cipher, the beacon they're studying recognizes him/her "As a Prothean." The Direct quote is "Or it could be the Prothean standing next to you. It must be the Cipher you got back on Feros years ago. Incredible. The beacon seems to think you're Prothean, Shepard." And another quote; "Protheans were not a very optimistic species." There's more, but those two alone sum it up for me; they were a single species.

*End Spoiler.*

Like I said, I'm still reading it, but all arrows point to Mac telling the truth. And when you think about it, it wouldn't do anyone any good to lie, he could have simply pulled a Casey Hudson and said something like, "We'll see," or "I can't tell you too much...."

Modifié par BentOrgy, 17 décembre 2011 - 07:49 .

[N0-Future]

ye i'm pretty sure the Prothean ( empire? ) was made up of more than 1 species.

[Someone With Mass]

*spoiler*
Pardon me. This is one is lost. Could you direct me to-

A hanar. I remember your kind when you were still minnows in the ocean.

The...'Enkindlers' -- that is what you call us?

(flabbergasted) This one... is unworthy! This one has seen the face of an Enkindler!

(as he goes) This one has basked in their glory… this one must spread the word!

A pity we did not teach them to speak better.

I'm sorry…are you really a Prothean?

I am.

Then if you lost the last war…what hope do we have?

For many, there may be no hope.

The Reapers killed trillions in my cycle. The odds of being among the living are remote.

If you are lucky, they will destroy you outright. You will avoid the fate of becoming a husk.

If you cannot fight, do not let them capture you. Death is a better outcome.

(devastated) It's over. It's all over.

I assumed they wanted to hear the truth.

There was no one around to tell my people. We wasted years on false hope.

This cycle has strange ideas about war.

It is better to fight with your eyes open, then your heart.

It is the way of life.

I will meet you back on the Normandy, Commander.

But you are still alive now. That alone is a miracle. And you still have the power to fight.

My people knew your kind when you were just infants. Turian, asari, hanar - there was potential in all of you.

Now you must seize that potential and become the weapon you were meant to be -- the weapon that tells the Reapers we are not machines!

We are *alive*. And we will fight back!

Thank you. That meant a lot.

Commander Shepard, it must be an honor to have a Prothean out there fighting with you.

The Commander is a capable warrior as well. For a human. Who once lived in caves.

Neither have you, Commander.

(to Prothean) Would you mind maybe...signing something? Just to prove I met you?

'P'? That's your name?

How many Protheans do you know?

Just you.

Then there will be no confusion.

Thank you, Commander. I have enjoyed my time here, walking among the..infants.

[a beat] If hope is a weapon in this cycle, then it is a weapon we must wield.

I will see you back on the Normandy.*spoiler*

I like this guy. He's brutally honest.

[Someone With Mass]

BentOrgy wrote...

I'm reading the script right now, and I'm not running across anything that states the Protheans were more than one race. Infact, its the opposite;

O RLY?

*spoiler*

We were the dominant race of our cycle. We were the rulers of the galaxy.

My studies indicated you were the only race engaged in space-travel at the time. I always found that curious.

We were one empire composed of many subjects. All eventually called themselves "Prothean".

They weren't given a choice.

Any could oppose us if they wished. And had they won, they would have ruled. Many tried. None succeeded.

I had no idea Protheans were so..severe.

It was by necessity. Very early we encountered the dangers posed by machine intelligence. They rebelled against us.

The machines' strength lies in their intelligence. We decided the only way to survive was to surpass their evolution with our own.

In time, we united all organic life within our empire. Every race contributed in the struggle against the machines.
*spoiler*

[I-AM-KROGAN]

Someone With Mass wrote...

BentOrgy wrote...

I'm reading the script right now, and I'm not running across anything that states the Protheans were more than one race. Infact, its the opposite;

O RLY?

*spoiler*

We were the dominant race of our cycle. We were the rulers of the galaxy.

My studies indicated you were the only race engaged in space-travel at the time. I always found that curious.

We were one empire composed of many subjects. All eventually called themselves "Prothean".

They weren't given a choice.

Any could oppose us if they wished. And had they won, they would have ruled. Many tried. None succeeded.

I had no idea Protheans were so..severe.

It was by necessity. Very early we encountered the dangers posed by machine intelligence. They rebelled against us.

The machines' strength lies in their intelligence. We decided the only way to survive was to surpass their evolution with our own.

In time, we united all organic life within our empire. Every race contributed in the struggle against the machines.
*spoiler*

For some reason i think Prothy is going to be so badass.


Him Kaiden, garrus, and Tali all the way!

[BentOrgy]

Someone With Mass wrote...

BentOrgy wrote...

I'm reading the script right now, and I'm not running across anything that states the Protheans were more than one race. Infact, its the opposite;

O RLY?

*spoiler*

We were the dominant race of our cycle. We were the rulers of the galaxy.

My studies indicated you were the only race engaged in space-travel at the time. I always found that curious.

We were one empire composed of many subjects. All eventually called themselves "Prothean".

They weren't given a choice.

Any could oppose us if they wished. And had they won, they would have ruled. Many tried. None succeeded.

I had no idea Protheans were so..severe.

It was by necessity. Very early we encountered the dangers posed by machine intelligence. They rebelled against us.

The machines' strength lies in their intelligence. We decided the only way to survive was to surpass their evolution with our own.

In time, we united all organic life within our empire. Every race contributed in the struggle against the machines.
*spoiler*

Hmm, I'll have to do a word search, haven't seen that yet, but I brought this up mainly do to the question regarding how Protheans looked, and as hence, how Prothy will look.

There was only one Prothean "Race." Its not like a bunch of species got together one day and "Made," the race "Prothean," out of thin air, like it was a team name or something, there was an actual species by that name; and that's what Prothy (Or Ian, or whatever the poor sap's called.) is a part of; the actual prothean race. (Otherwise, the dialogue about the other assimilated races would have been different, I think.)

And because up until this point, we've only ever seen the tentacle race when referring to Protheans, (Flashbacks, Codex entries, the statues.) logic says that's what the actual Prothean Race looked like, so its I think its safe to assume, barring a retcon, that's what Prothy will look like.

[AdmiralCheez]

"If hope is a weapon in this cycle, then it is a weapon we must wield."

Prothy love +100.

[AVPen]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

"If hope is a weapon in this cycle, then it is a weapon we must wield."

Prothy love +100.

I felt that way after hearing this quote:
"Thank you, Commander. I have enjoyed my time here, walking among the.... infants." 

[billy the squid]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

"If hope is a weapon in this cycle, then it is a weapon we must wield."

Prothy love +100.

That prothean... If awesome is a weapon, then he has it.

[Chewin]

God, I so want to hear his voice.

[Annihilator27]

Chewin3 wrote...

God, I so want to hear his voice.

Same, I also want to see what they look like.

[Someone With Mass]

AVPen wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

"If hope is a weapon in this cycle, then it is a weapon we must wield."

Prothy love +100.

I felt that way after hearing this quote:
"Thank you, Commander. I have enjoyed my time here, walking among the.... infants." 

For me, it was: The Commander is a capable warrior as well. For a human. Who once lived in caves.

And this:

*spoiler*

In the war...I commanded a ship like this one. A loyal crew with many friends. It was captured, only I escaped.

Indoctrinated. The Reapers sent them against me. For years I was hunted by my own men.

Every encounter a reminder of my failure as a soldier.

Until the Battle of the Cronian Nebula. I had only my knife left…

I cornered my men and slit their throats one by one. I watched them bleed.

It was the day I understood: war is atrocity committed in the name of survival.

(quietly) It is a lesson I wish I had never learned.

They are dead. (darkly) Where I left them.
*spoiler*

Manly tears have been shed.

[I-AM-KROGAN]

Someone With Mass wrote...

AVPen wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

"If hope is a weapon in this cycle, then it is a weapon we must wield."

Prothy love +100.

I felt that way after hearing this quote:
"Thank you, Commander. I have enjoyed my time here, walking among the.... infants." 

For me, it was: The Commander is a capable warrior as well. For a human. Who once lived in caves.

And this:

*spoiler*

In the war...I commanded a ship like this one. A loyal crew with many friends. It was captured, only I escaped.

Indoctrinated. The Reapers sent them against me. For years I was hunted by my own men.

Every encounter a reminder of my failure as a soldier.

Until the Battle of the Cronian Nebula. I had only my knife left…

I cornered my men and slit their throats one by one. I watched them bleed.

It was the day I understood: war is atrocity committed in the name of survival.

(quietly) It is a lesson I wish I had never learned.

They are dead. (darkly) Where I left them.
*spoiler*

Manly tears have been shed.

Holy.......

Okay. Prothy wins.

[GRISHASAUR]

Prothy is awesome more please

[Someone With Mass]

You ask, and you shall receive.

*spoiler*

We heard only rumors.

They said our scientists were constructing a great machine which had the power to defeat the Reapers.

By that point the empire had been smashed into a million pieces. None of us knew what the others were doing.

(worried) Well if we don't finish it soon, the same will be true of us.

To discover the most primitive races of my time now rule the galaxy. The asari, the humans, the turians...

There's also the salarians.

(surprised) The lizard people evolved?

I believe they're amphibian.

(amused; to himself) They used to eat flies.
*spoiler*

And this:

*spoiler*
It is a memory totem -- the 'Echo Shard'. Passed from soldier to soldier, Prothean to Prothean. Each has added their memories to it.

To a time before the Reapers. It is all that is left of my people.

Imagine if everyone you knew was dead. You could not even remember their faces, or the color of the sky above your home.

The memories were gone...but so was the pain.

Would you still want to remember that, Commander? Even if it meant watching everyone die again?

(as if seeing it) Before the Reapers...the stars belonged to us. Civilization flourished...

Perhaps you are right. There were..others..soldiers who served under me, like your crew.

Shepard (I think):

Without that.."affection" as you put it, all I have in my life is death. And for me that's not enough.

I care about them, but the truth is they could die on any given day.

My crew has become my family. We've stared death in the face more times than I can count.

You go through something like that enough and...it binds you together in ways I can't really explain.

What about you? I respect your reasons for being here, but I still can't help but feel there's something more.

Any one of them could die on any given day...and they'd be gone just like that.

The only thing I know for certain is *everyone* dies if we don't win this war.

Which you seem to do quite well.

(senses an answer) What's in here?

How far back does it go?

And you don't want to remember that?


If I had something like this...seeing Earth again, whole, with everyone still alive…that would be worth the pain.

Re-opening old wounds -- especially one this big -- isn't going to help.

Yes, they matter most.

No. I'm here to kill Reapers.

*spoiler*

[I-AM-KROGAN]

Someone With Mass wrote...

You ask, and you shall receive.

*spoiler*

We heard only rumors.

They said our scientists were constructing a great machine which had the power to defeat the Reapers.

By that point the empire had been smashed into a million pieces. None of us knew what the others were doing.

(worried) Well if we don't finish it soon, the same will be true of us.

To discover the most primitive races of my time now rule the galaxy. The asari, the humans, the turians...

There's also the salarians.

(surprised) The lizard people evolved?

I believe they're amphibian.

(amused; to himself) They used to eat flies.
*spoiler*

And this:

*spoiler*
It is a memory totem -- the 'Echo Shard'. Passed from soldier to soldier, Prothean to Prothean. Each has added their memories to it.

To a time before the Reapers. It is all that is left of my people.

Imagine if everyone you knew was dead. You could not even remember their faces, or the color of the sky above your home.

The memories were gone...but so was the pain.

Would you still want to remember that, Commander? Even if it meant watching everyone die again?

(as if seeing it) Before the Reapers...the stars belonged to us. Civilization flourished...

Perhaps you are right. There were..others..soldiers who served under me, like your crew.

Shepard (I think):

Without that.."affection" as you put it, all I have in my life is death. And for me that's not enough.

I care about them, but the truth is they could die on any given day.

My crew has become my family. We've stared death in the face more times than I can count.

You go through something like that enough and...it binds you together in ways I can't really explain.

What about you? I respect your reasons for being here, but I still can't help but feel there's something more.

Any one of them could die on any given day...and they'd be gone just like that.

The only thing I know for certain is *everyone* dies if we don't win this war.

Which you seem to do quite well.

(senses an answer) What's in here?

How far back does it go?

And you don't want to remember that?


If I had something like this...seeing Earth again, whole, with everyone still alive…that would be worth the pain.

Re-opening old wounds -- especially one this big -- isn't going to help.

Yes, they matter most.

No. I'm here to kill Reapers.

*spoiler*

Are these happening on the normandy? 

Where do we 'recruit" Prothy?

But damn, that second diolouge made me think of all the people who died JUST to get to this poing (Ashley, Presley)
holy crap.

This game will make me cry wont it?

[Someone With Mass]

I think he's the last squadmate you'll recruit, because he doesn't have dialogues or references on missions until a certain point.

Maybe halfway through the game or so, I'd wager.

[I-AM-KROGAN]

Someone With Mass wrote...

I think he's the last squadmate you'll recruit, because he doesn't have dialogues or references on missions until a certain point.

Maybe halfway through the game or so, I'd wager.

Since hes a Prothean, im guessing on the misson to mars maybe?