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Well I think its highly possible that Prothy did believe in some kind of religion, I only based this off from the leaked scripts for him and how it sounds like he was born during the Reaper Invasion of his cycle. People turn to religion because of war and conflict when they think the world they know will end any moment.

But not to turn this into a religious thread if the Protheans did have a money systems going I dont really think it was active by Prothy's time due to the Reaper Invasion going on.

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LTiberious wrote...

Every sentinent species has a religion.

What's "sentinent"?

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jreezy wrote...

LTiberious wrote...

Every sentinent species has a religion.

What's "sentinent"?


I think he meant sapient.

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Mesina2 wrote...

jreezy wrote...

LTiberious wrote...

Every sentinent species has a religion.

What's "sentinent"?


I think he meant sapient.

What jreezy meant was that he misspelled "sentient".

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oh lol

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This guy doesn't sound like the religious type, since he pretty much lost everything during his cycle.

Not to mention that he and the other Protheans believed that evolution was the key to success.

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Sapient, yes sapient.

Dont want a discussion about religious cows.

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Ah yes - @Avpen - where did u get the intel on that?

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AVPen wrote...

Just wait till you guys see what one of his (at this point, rumored to have, but highly probable) powers, "Biotic Focus", does.... whew boy.


What does it do? Where did you hear it rumored? Will it be awesome? Well, I know it will be, but what kind of awesome are we talking about?

**GAMEPLAY SPOILERS**highlight to read**


Biotic Focus   (Biotic Focus will reset the cooldowns on offensive powers for all squad members.)
2nd Rank
Recharge Speed   Increases the recharge speed of Biotic Focus by x%

3rd Rank
Damage   The next offensive power used will have its damage boosted by x%

4th Rank
Damage/Force   The next offensive power used will have its damage boosted by x% and its force boosted by x%
OR
Damage/Radius   
The next offensive power used will have its damage boosted by x% and its impact radius boosted by x%

5th Rank
Damage/Force Buff   Power damage is increased by x% and force increased by x% for x seconds.
OR
Duration/Radius Buff   Power duration increased by x% and impact radius increased by x% for x seconds.

6th Rank
Recharge Speed Buff   Power recharge speed increased by x% for x seconds.
OR
Recharge Speed   Increases the recharge speed of Biotic Focus by x% 


LTiberious wrote...

Ah yes - @Avpen - where did u get the intel on that?

The leaks - I've been going through them and researching all the Power evolution ranks for Biotic Sage's "ME3 Powers" thread.

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LTiberious wrote...

Every sentinent species has a religion.


You sure? usually high-tech beings don't have religions, I bet they don't even understand the word "religion".

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^Asari have religion.
Turians have religion. Hell, some Turians converted to human religions. For real.
Even Geth have religion! And they are machines!

Modifié par Mesina2, 19 janvier 2012 - 04:56 .


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ModestmeNTaLmogul wrote...

LTiberious wrote...

Every sentinent species has a religion.


You sure? usually high-tech beings don't have religions, I bet they don't even understand the word "religion".

That's not what I've seen. Usually in fiction there's a religious "dark age" between low-tech and high-tech - to compare to our society, we're just barely entering that dark age, and the ME socities are just at the immediate beginning of it. Once societies become technological enough to understand the explore the underlying complexity of the universe, they tend to regain that religious belief without all the metaphorical junk - not belief in a god or miracles, mind you, but belief in the seemingly intelligent mechanisms and wonders of existence itself and how everything, from a atomic level to a cosmological, just seems to fall perfectly into place to create systematic order, stability and progress.

Of course, the technological requirement for that is usually at or near Time Lord levels. Which not even the Reapers are at, considering they (presumably) haven't expanded beyond their own galaxy.

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^Pretty sure you can believe in both of that.

Modifié par Mesina2, 19 janvier 2012 - 05:38 .


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So, can I call shenanigans on this game? Posted Image

Cause recruiting a Prothean either implies that it was hiding somewhere for 50,000 years, which seems absolutely impossible to me, or there's time travel in ME3, which I also have a major beef with. Posted Image

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^Ilos, only bigger and all powers was used for 1 person.

Then you have a Prothean surviving 50k years.

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Ice Cold J wrote...

So, can I call shenanigans on this game? Posted Image

Cause recruiting a Prothean either implies that it was hiding somewhere for 50,000 years, which seems absolutely impossible to me, or there's time travel in ME3, which I also have a major beef with. Posted Image

He was in stasis. Like the Protheans that were on Ilos, just for a longer period of time.

Edit: ninja'd

Modifié par Shub-Niggurath64, 19 janvier 2012 - 06:04 .


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Mesina2 wrote...

^Ilos, only bigger and all powers was used for 1 person.

Then you have a Prothean surviving 50k years.


well dont forget ilos was a research facility so there can indeed be more with actual stasis pods that havent been deactivated yet similar to what vigil did

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Tazzmission wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

^Ilos, only bigger and all powers was used for 1 person.

Then you have a Prothean surviving 50k years.


well dont forget ilos was a research facility so there can indeed be more with actual stasis pods that havent been deactivated yet similar to what vigil did


don't forget that there was thousands of protheans in stasis on ilos :P they were running out of power, so the VI disabled energy of the non essential personnel

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Prothy was one of the few , rather than one alone

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AVP... That is the single best power... Ever... Of all time... Prothy is now coming with me on every mission, no exceptions. That is bound to make my Sentinel unstoppable.

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Replaying ME1 for the thousandth time, I've come to realize that Prothy (Ian, buggy, Javrik, etc.) being in stasis really isn't that much of a stretch;

*Spoilers*

Vigil claims that beacons we encountered were used to broadcast distress signals throughout the Prothean Empire, essentially telling all Protheans to disappear until the Reapers had gone.

One such beacon, as we all know, was found on Eden Prime. And, as most of us know, that's also where we find Prothy. Likely scenario was, Prothy received the distress call, and like the soldier he is/was, did what he was told. A common argument against the stasis is the power source required to support it, but the beacons, Vigil, the barrier curtain that kidnapped Liara on Therum, they all worked, even after 50,000 years. So its not that big a deal for me.

What I think is interesting, are the silver spheres that were in ME1, and the one from the Firewalker mission in ME2; when touched, the sphere on Eletania reacted similar to the beacon; in that it transferred information directly into Shepard's brain, but I can't shake the feeling that they're more than just record-keepers. I suppose they could just be probes (Like the ship described in the Eletania vision.) but even then, if it is, would someone have to pilot it? And let's remember that, if the sphere is that ship in the vision, that it presumably absorbed the human with its "beam of red light."

After seeing that sphere-thing in one of the trailers for ME3 (The one glowing orange, with all those box like arms branching off from it.) and people theorizing that its Prothy's stasis pod, it has me wondering if that what the silver spheres are.

If so, that's a little creepy; Shepard could have a prothean in stasis on his/her coffee table.

*End Spoilers*

Modifié par BentOrgy, 20 janvier 2012 - 12:33 .


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BentOrgy wrote...

Replaying ME1 for the thousandth time, I've come to realize that Prothy (Ian, buggy, Javrik, etc.) being in stasis really isn't that much of a stretch;

*Spoilers*

Vigil claims that beacons we encountered were used to broadcast distress signals throughout the Prothean Empire, essentially telling all Protheans to disappear until the Reapers had gone.

One such beacon, as we all know, was found on Eden Prime. And, as most of us know, that's also where we find Prothy. Likely scenario was, Prothy received the distress call, and like the soldier he is/was, did what he was told. A common argument against the stasis is the power source required to support it, but the beacons, Vigil, the barrier curtain that kidnapped Liara on Therum, they all worked, even after 50,000 years. So its not that big a deal for me.

What I think is interesting, are the silver spheres that were in ME1, and the one from the Firewalker mission in ME2; when touched, the sphere on Eletania reacted similar to the beacon; in that it transferred information directly into Shepard's brain, but I can't shake the feeling that they're more than just record-keepers. I suppose they could just be probes (Like the ship described in the Eletania vision.) but even then, if it is, would someone have to pilot it? And let's remember that, if the sphere is that ship in the vision, that it presumably absorbed the human with its "beam of red light."

After seeing that sphere-thing in one of the trailers for ME3 (The one glowing orange, with all those box like arms branching off from it.) and people theorizing that its Prothy's stasis pod, it has me wondering if that what the silver spheres are.

If so, that's a little creepy; Shepard could have a prothean in stasis on his/her coffee table.

*End Spoilers*


i wonder how many worlds the protheans even inhabited tbh.

mars i can understand the idea of why for this reason oviously but the two speheres you mentioned from me1 and me2 what if they were empty caskets but technology left by the prothean who ocupied it before getting killed?

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Tazzmission wrote...

BentOrgy wrote...

*Self Snip* .... That sounds painful.


i wonder how many worlds the protheans even inhabited tbh.

mars i can understand the idea of why for this reason oviously but the two speheres you mentioned from me1 and me2 what if they were empty caskets but technology left by the prothean who ocupied it before getting killed?


Meh, its just an idea that has been swimming in my head for a while now. The sphere on Kopis did shrink after being touched, which might indicate that its just an archive. (Shrinking to be portable.) But Eletania is a near-earth planet, so while we don't know if Prothean biology was sturdy enough to withstand the difference, they might have been. In which case, the "Stasis pod," theory could still work.

Although Kopis is a desolate moon without an atmosphere, it was found in an underground facility, which might have been sealed and inhabitable at one point.

But the way these spheres are always positioned, it doesn't look so much like a way to keep someone alive, but rather to house something important. Their always in those stone structures that, to me, almost look like an altar. Which kind of defeats my theory, but meh. B)

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BentOrgy wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

BentOrgy wrote...

*Self Snip* .... That sounds painful.


i wonder how many worlds the protheans even inhabited tbh.

mars i can understand the idea of why for this reason oviously but the two speheres you mentioned from me1 and me2 what if they were empty caskets but technology left by the prothean who ocupied it before getting killed?


Meh, its just an idea that has been swimming in my head for a while now. The sphere on Kopis did shrink after being touched, which might indicate that its just an archive. (Shrinking to be portable.) But Eletania is a near-earth planet, so while we don't know if Prothean biology was sturdy enough to withstand the difference, they might have been. In which case, the "Stasis pod," theory could still work.

Although Kopis is a desolate moon without an atmosphere, it was found in an underground facility, which might have been sealed and inhabitable at one point.

But the way these spheres are always positioned, it doesn't look so much like a way to keep someone alive, but rather to house something important. Their always in those stone structures that, to me, almost look like an altar. Which kind of defeats my theory, but meh. B)



or maybe there clues to locate the  prothean that is still in stasis but the visions show you what that species endured?

after all it couldnt hurt to have a puzzle in mass effect :shrugs:

Modifié par Tazzmission, 20 janvier 2012 - 08:57 .


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Tazzmission wrote...

or maybe there clues to locate the  prothean that is still in stasis but the visions show you what that species endured?

after all it couldnt hurt to have a puzzle in mass effect :shrugs:


I don't follow your logic; how would showing something completely unrelated to the prothean be clues to its location?

And I doubt that's the case; considering, unfortunately, not everyone playing ME3 will have played ME1, or even 2 for that matter.

Goddamn idiots. :sick:

EDIT: Why is goddamn not censored, but n.a.z.i is? :huh:

Modifié par BentOrgy, 20 janvier 2012 - 12:48 .


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BentOrgy wrote...

Although Kopis is a desolate moon without an atmosphere, it was found in an underground facility, which might have been sealed and inhabitable at one point.

Kopis actually has an atmosphere. A very thin and unliveable one, but it's there.