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#127
Posté 04 août 2011 - 02:04
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i like the theory to put on Mars a active scientific structure for the human study and for
one possible increase the prothean population, but in this case the prothean was have
focused the energy to create a artificial prothean ?
so the prothean have closed the relay for hibernation to not attract the attention of the reeper after the message from Ilos ?
The prothean in this artificial bath of gestation is the only exemplary in the structure ?
where are the others Prothean ?
so the pyramids on the Earth are a work from prothean architects ?
this quastion is only for ME universe not for the real live.
one possible increase the prothean population, but in this case the prothean was have
focused the energy to create a artificial prothean ?
so the prothean have closed the relay for hibernation to not attract the attention of the reeper after the message from Ilos ?
The prothean in this artificial bath of gestation is the only exemplary in the structure ?
where are the others Prothean ?
so the pyramids on the Earth are a work from prothean architects ?
this quastion is only for ME universe not for the real live.
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#128
Posté 04 août 2011 - 02:28
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The pyramids are of prothean architecture? Don't get my hopes up, that would be interesting, god I hope the real pyramids of Egypt have alien origin.
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Posté 04 août 2011 - 02:49
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They may be. I think there were a prothean pyramid or two to be found in ME1 on uncharted worlds.King Minos wrote...
The pyramids are of prothean architecture? Don't get my hopes up, that would be interesting, god I hope the real pyramids of Egypt have alien origin.
Of course, the similiar design could just be a coincidence.
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Posté 04 août 2011 - 03:44
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I think Prothy is too important to just be a mere dlc character. Arcian, do you think there is a chance that Prothy, if in the game, is not a DLC character? I think he/she would be central to the plot.
#131
Posté 04 août 2011 - 03:51
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Thanks for making this thread, I'm not sure if we are going to meet a Prothean in game, but it makes sense, they have been such a central part to the Mass Effect story. I'm really hoping that a Prothean can be part of your squad - that would be very cool.
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Posté 04 août 2011 - 04:22
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Well, one of the explanations for BioWare's removal of "The Prothean" title from their Additional Mission and Character section on the new N7 Content List might be that they have made Prothy part of the base game while making another DLC character.HTTP 404 wrote...
I think Prothy is too important to just be a mere dlc character. Arcian, do you think there is a chance that Prothy, if in the game, is not a DLC character? I think he/she would be central to the plot.
Though at this point, it's hard to say.
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Posté 04 août 2011 - 06:18
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I think it would be awesome to meet a Prothean in ME3. It would be even better to have one in my party. However, if this turns out to be fact than I predict many tough decisions in building my party i.e. Prothy and Garrus or Prothy and Liara . . . So many decisions!
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Posté 04 août 2011 - 07:54
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Arcian wrote...
Well, one of the explanations for BioWare's removal of "The Prothean" title from their Additional Mission and Character section on the new N7 Content List might be that they have made Prothy part of the base game while making another DLC character.HTTP 404 wrote...
I think Prothy is too important to just be a mere dlc character. Arcian, do you think there is a chance that Prothy, if in the game, is not a DLC character? I think he/she would be central to the plot.
Though at this point, it's hard to say.
yah, thats my thought on it as well. Bioware wouldn't be a liar if they said there is no Prothean DLC squadmate if in fact the Prothean was a standard squadmate.
At the very least, interaction with a VI like the one on Ilos or the very same one would be great to connect what else the protheans have studied about the Reapers.
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Posté 04 août 2011 - 10:05
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Interesting theory and a good read. I look forward to seeing how/if this gets implemented in ME3. Thanks for taking the time to type all that up!
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Posté 04 août 2011 - 11:03
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Glad you liked it!CBKeffer wrote...
Interesting theory and a good read. I look forward to seeing how/if this gets implemented in ME3. Thanks for taking the time to type all that up!
#137
Posté 04 août 2011 - 11:19
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I support this *-* I hope that he/she comes thirsty for revenge against the Reapers *-*
#138
Posté 04 août 2011 - 11:21
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What's funny is some beleive the pyramids to be a refueling station IRL,so who knows maybe prothy will show us a super weapon they buried on Earth(ala The Ark)Arcian wrote...
They may be. I think there were a prothean pyramid or two to be found in ME1 on uncharted worlds.King Minos wrote...
The pyramids are of prothean architecture? Don't get my hopes up, that would be interesting, god I hope the real pyramids of Egypt have alien origin.
Of course, the similiar design could just be a coincidence.
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Posté 04 août 2011 - 11:28
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No, the protheans uncovering some kind of Deus Ex Machina superweapon with no previous mention would be a really poor cop-out. It's much more likely that they have simply done their best to protect humanity from the Reapers and nothing more.Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...
What's funny is some beleive the pyramids to be a refueling station IRL,so who knows maybe prothy will show us a super weapon they buried on Earth(ala The Ark)Arcian wrote...
They may be. I think there were a prothean pyramid or two to be found in ME1 on uncharted worlds.King Minos wrote...
The pyramids are of prothean architecture? Don't get my hopes up, that would be interesting, god I hope the real pyramids of Egypt have alien origin.
Of course, the similiar design could just be a coincidence.
Remember, the whole idea behind Prothy is about understanding and learning more about the protheans, not gaining some kind of super-advantage against the Reapers.
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Posté 05 août 2011 - 12:01
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Yes I did read your post and I stand by my statement that it would be lame for a Prothean to pop out of nowhere. First off they clearly did not know about the Reaper invasion, Vigil made that abundantly clear, they were simply researching the Mass Relays, instead of just sitting on their hands and using them. But somehow now they knew before hand, did nothing and decided to freeze themselves for hundreds of years at a time over the course of 50 thousand years and managed to maintain resources even though they froze over the relay so they couldn't leave the system?
Lets not even comment on the fact that if they knew this invasion was coming, that they did nothing to preserve their species and when the trouble passed, continued to do nothing. The cyro thing on Illos only failed, because it was a spur of the moment thing and they didn't have the resources to support it. If this was a preconceived plan, they would of had the resources set aside and they could had definitely save enough of their species to restart a viable population onces the Reapers gone.
This makes no sense that they would knowing this invasion is coming, but resign themselves to death, somehow assuming humanity wouldn't meet the same fate. Unless they met Sovereign, Harbinger, Bob or whatever their vanguard was called and it assured them that it was only going to kill them, why would they make no attempt to save themselves and place everything on this other species? Yes I am having a hard time sheding my preconceptions, that's because they make sense, the Protheans are dead.
And I didn't say repeating Vigil would be a good move, I just said it makes more sense than Prothean's randomly hanging out on Mars for the last 50k years. Some of what you said makes sense like there being extra info that the Alliance kept hidden, which is technically illegal and Keiji stole that info, fine. But having a whole Area 51 thing going, I cant get behind that.
Yes I did read your post and I stand by my statement that it would be lame for a Prothean to pop out of nowhere. First off they clearly did not know about the Reaper invasion, Vigil made that abundantly clear, they were simply researching the Mass Relays, instead of just sitting on their hands and using them. But somehow now they knew before hand, did nothing and decided to freeze themselves for hundreds of years at a time over the course of 50 thousand years and managed to maintain resources even though they froze over the relay so they couldn't leave the system?
Lets not even comment on the fact that if they knew this invasion was coming, that they did nothing to preserve their species and when the trouble passed, continued to do nothing. The cyro thing on Illos only failed, because it was a spur of the moment thing and they didn't have the resources to support it. If this was a preconceived plan, they would of had the resources set aside and they could had definitely save enough of their species to restart a viable population onces the Reapers gone.
This makes no sense that they would knowing this invasion is coming, but resign themselves to death, somehow assuming humanity wouldn't meet the same fate. Unless they met Sovereign, Harbinger, Bob or whatever their vanguard was called and it assured them that it was only going to kill them, why would they make no attempt to save themselves and place everything on this other species? Yes I am having a hard time sheding my preconceptions, that's because they make sense, the Protheans are dead.
And I didn't say repeating Vigil would be a good move, I just said it makes more sense than Prothean's randomly hanging out on Mars for the last 50k years. Some of what you said makes sense like there being extra info that the Alliance kept hidden, which is technically illegal and Keiji stole that info, fine. But having a whole Area 51 thing going, I cant get behind that.
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[quote]Sepewrath wrote...
@Arcian
Yes I did read your post and I stand by my statement that it would be lame for a Prothean to pop out of nowhere.[/quote]
But it doesn't "pop out of nowhere". If that's how you want to interpret it, fine, but my theory doesn't say "And one day there was a prothean on Mars for no reason at all, waiting for Shepard to pick him/her up and kick some Reaper ass."
[quote]Sepewrath wrote...
First off they clearly did not know about the Reaper invasion, Vigil made that abundantly clear, they were simply researching the Mass Relays, instead of just sitting on their hands and using them.[/quote]
Yes, but why keep the project a secret? It is very obvious that no one but the Conduit team actually knew of the Conduit Project itself. Otherwise, the Reapers would have found out from their indoctrinated slaves that, hey, there's a bunch of Protheans holed up on Ilos making mass relays in a subterranean facility.
Considering the indications that the protheans were the only spacefaring species of their time, united in a massive, galaxy-spanning Empire, they would have no real reason to keep the Conduit Project a secret. I mean, secret from who?
Proto-pyjaks?
[quote]Sepewrath wrote...
But somehow now they knew before hand, did nothing[/quote]
Of course they did something, they started up a bunch of secret projects. The grand majority of them, including the Conduit Project, were meant to discover means to protect themselves from the Reapers, while a few others was dedicated to protect sentient but still primitive forms of life as they were as of then unaware that the Reapers would leave those primitive lifeforms alive for the next cycle.
[quote]Sepewrath wrote...
and decided to freeze themselves for hundreds of years at a time over the course of 50 thousand years[/quote]
What else should they have done? Lie down and die?
They had a mission to find ways to protect sentient pre-flight species from the Reapers, and despite the fall of their civilization they kept to this prime directive because it was really the only thing they could do.
[quote]Sepewrath wrote...
and managed to maintain resources even though they froze over the relay so they couldn't leave the system?[/quote]
They didn't need to leave. Our solar system has four extremely abundant sources of helium3, one of the main fuels in the Mass Effect trilogy - namely our gas giants. In real life, helium3 is used in nuclear fusion research. I would make an educated guess that by the time of Mass Effect, the technology to achieve nuclear fusion has been invented.
The main difference between the Mars team and the Ilos team is that the Mars team had ships stored in their secret facility, as Mars was merely an outpost world of no real colonial value to the protheans. Most likely, they were self-sufficient and had the capacity and technology to mine their own fuel, all to keep the project a secret.
[quote]Sepewrath wrote...
Lets not even comment on the fact that if they knew this invasion was coming, that they did nothing to preserve
their species and when the trouble passed, continued to do nothing.[/quote]
So starting up a bunch of secret projects to develop means to stop the Reapers and protect the lesser species from destruction counts as nothing to you?
They DID make an effort to preserve their own species, but it was not enough. Besides, they simply knew that the attack was coming, not when.
[quote]Sepewrath wrote...
The cyro thing on Illos only failed, because it was a spur of the moment thing[/quote]
Excuse me, but how is building an entire sub-central of cryo-pods a "spur of the moment"-thing? That's very advanced technology, and I can guarantee you that they didn't build those pods after the attack.
[quote]Sepewrath wrote...
and they didn't have the resources to support it.[/quote]
They didn't expect it to take centuries.
[quote]Sepewrath wrote...
If this was a preconceived plan, they would of had the resources set aside and they could had definitely save enough of their species to restart a viable population onces the Reapers gone.[/quote]
First of all, they had no idea when they were getting attacked.
Second of all, keeping a vast number of civilians holed up in secret facilities would severely hinder contingency plans and eat away at precious resources. The advantage of a small facility is that it can easily be made self-sufficient. Ilos was a different case because the facility was build underneath a city metropolis - this allowed them to maintain a higher project staff, seeing as developing Mass Relays isn't exactly a trivial matter.
Thirdly, considering how costly it was to keep 300 protheans on Ilos alive for 300 years, I don't think they had the resources to keep a viable population - that is, a population numbering in the several thousands - in cryo-stasis for potentially thousands of years (as they didn't know when the Reapers would attack).
[quote]Sepewrath wrote...
This makes no sense that they would knowing this invasion is coming, but resign themselves to death, somehow assuming humanity wouldn't meet the same fate.[/quote]
They haven't resigned themselves to death. They struggled to keep alive for the specific purpose of giving humanity a choice to avoid the fate of their own species.
[quote]Sepewrath wrote...
Unless they met Sovereign, Harbinger, Bob or whatever their vanguard was called and it assured them that it was only going to kill them, why would they make no attempt to save themselves[/quote]
They did. It wasn't enough.
[quote]Sepewrath wrote...
and place everything on this other species?[/quote]
Because, as there are indications that the protheans were the only spacefaring species of their time, they took an interest in lesser species. Vigil even notes that when the Ilos team found out that there were only 12 left of them, they shed all notions of their species surviving and instead spent the remaining decades of their life cracking the Keeper signal in order to protect whichever species would take their place on the Citadel next. They could have just as easily committed suicide to be done with it, but they didn't. This implies an interest in safekeeping the next generation of space-faring species.
[quote]Sepewrath wrote...
Yes I am having a hard time sheding my preconceptions, that's because they make sense, the Protheans are dead.[/quote]
Well, you are certainly entitled to your opinion.
[quote]Sepewrath wrote...
And I didn't say repeating Vigil would be a good move, I just said it makes more sense than Prothean's randomly hanging out on Mars for the last 50k years.[/quote]
First of all, the protheans haven't been "randomly" hanging out on Mars - they had a mission to safeguard humanity and prevent them from becoming another Reaper victim. How many more times do I have to repeat myself?
[quote]Sepewrath wrote...
Some of what you said makes sense like there being extra info that the Alliance kept hidden, which is technically illegal and Keiji stole that info, fine. But having a whole Area 51 thing going, I cant get behind that.[/quote]
Can't please everyone.
@Arcian
Yes I did read your post and I stand by my statement that it would be lame for a Prothean to pop out of nowhere.[/quote]
But it doesn't "pop out of nowhere". If that's how you want to interpret it, fine, but my theory doesn't say "And one day there was a prothean on Mars for no reason at all, waiting for Shepard to pick him/her up and kick some Reaper ass."
[quote]Sepewrath wrote...
First off they clearly did not know about the Reaper invasion, Vigil made that abundantly clear, they were simply researching the Mass Relays, instead of just sitting on their hands and using them.[/quote]
Yes, but why keep the project a secret? It is very obvious that no one but the Conduit team actually knew of the Conduit Project itself. Otherwise, the Reapers would have found out from their indoctrinated slaves that, hey, there's a bunch of Protheans holed up on Ilos making mass relays in a subterranean facility.
Considering the indications that the protheans were the only spacefaring species of their time, united in a massive, galaxy-spanning Empire, they would have no real reason to keep the Conduit Project a secret. I mean, secret from who?
Proto-pyjaks?
[quote]Sepewrath wrote...
But somehow now they knew before hand, did nothing[/quote]
Of course they did something, they started up a bunch of secret projects. The grand majority of them, including the Conduit Project, were meant to discover means to protect themselves from the Reapers, while a few others was dedicated to protect sentient but still primitive forms of life as they were as of then unaware that the Reapers would leave those primitive lifeforms alive for the next cycle.
[quote]Sepewrath wrote...
and decided to freeze themselves for hundreds of years at a time over the course of 50 thousand years[/quote]
What else should they have done? Lie down and die?
They had a mission to find ways to protect sentient pre-flight species from the Reapers, and despite the fall of their civilization they kept to this prime directive because it was really the only thing they could do.
[quote]Sepewrath wrote...
and managed to maintain resources even though they froze over the relay so they couldn't leave the system?[/quote]
They didn't need to leave. Our solar system has four extremely abundant sources of helium3, one of the main fuels in the Mass Effect trilogy - namely our gas giants. In real life, helium3 is used in nuclear fusion research. I would make an educated guess that by the time of Mass Effect, the technology to achieve nuclear fusion has been invented.
The main difference between the Mars team and the Ilos team is that the Mars team had ships stored in their secret facility, as Mars was merely an outpost world of no real colonial value to the protheans. Most likely, they were self-sufficient and had the capacity and technology to mine their own fuel, all to keep the project a secret.
[quote]Sepewrath wrote...
Lets not even comment on the fact that if they knew this invasion was coming, that they did nothing to preserve
their species and when the trouble passed, continued to do nothing.[/quote]
So starting up a bunch of secret projects to develop means to stop the Reapers and protect the lesser species from destruction counts as nothing to you?
They DID make an effort to preserve their own species, but it was not enough. Besides, they simply knew that the attack was coming, not when.
[quote]Sepewrath wrote...
The cyro thing on Illos only failed, because it was a spur of the moment thing[/quote]
Excuse me, but how is building an entire sub-central of cryo-pods a "spur of the moment"-thing? That's very advanced technology, and I can guarantee you that they didn't build those pods after the attack.
[quote]Sepewrath wrote...
and they didn't have the resources to support it.[/quote]
They didn't expect it to take centuries.
[quote]Sepewrath wrote...
If this was a preconceived plan, they would of had the resources set aside and they could had definitely save enough of their species to restart a viable population onces the Reapers gone.[/quote]
First of all, they had no idea when they were getting attacked.
Second of all, keeping a vast number of civilians holed up in secret facilities would severely hinder contingency plans and eat away at precious resources. The advantage of a small facility is that it can easily be made self-sufficient. Ilos was a different case because the facility was build underneath a city metropolis - this allowed them to maintain a higher project staff, seeing as developing Mass Relays isn't exactly a trivial matter.
Thirdly, considering how costly it was to keep 300 protheans on Ilos alive for 300 years, I don't think they had the resources to keep a viable population - that is, a population numbering in the several thousands - in cryo-stasis for potentially thousands of years (as they didn't know when the Reapers would attack).
[quote]Sepewrath wrote...
This makes no sense that they would knowing this invasion is coming, but resign themselves to death, somehow assuming humanity wouldn't meet the same fate.[/quote]
They haven't resigned themselves to death. They struggled to keep alive for the specific purpose of giving humanity a choice to avoid the fate of their own species.
[quote]Sepewrath wrote...
Unless they met Sovereign, Harbinger, Bob or whatever their vanguard was called and it assured them that it was only going to kill them, why would they make no attempt to save themselves[/quote]
They did. It wasn't enough.
[quote]Sepewrath wrote...
and place everything on this other species?[/quote]
Because, as there are indications that the protheans were the only spacefaring species of their time, they took an interest in lesser species. Vigil even notes that when the Ilos team found out that there were only 12 left of them, they shed all notions of their species surviving and instead spent the remaining decades of their life cracking the Keeper signal in order to protect whichever species would take their place on the Citadel next. They could have just as easily committed suicide to be done with it, but they didn't. This implies an interest in safekeeping the next generation of space-faring species.
[quote]Sepewrath wrote...
Yes I am having a hard time sheding my preconceptions, that's because they make sense, the Protheans are dead.[/quote]
Well, you are certainly entitled to your opinion.
[quote]Sepewrath wrote...
And I didn't say repeating Vigil would be a good move, I just said it makes more sense than Prothean's randomly hanging out on Mars for the last 50k years.[/quote]
First of all, the protheans haven't been "randomly" hanging out on Mars - they had a mission to safeguard humanity and prevent them from becoming another Reaper victim. How many more times do I have to repeat myself?
[quote]Sepewrath wrote...
Some of what you said makes sense like there being extra info that the Alliance kept hidden, which is technically illegal and Keiji stole that info, fine. But having a whole Area 51 thing going, I cant get behind that.[/quote]
Can't please everyone.
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Posté 05 août 2011 - 01:14
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One thing that I never really understood was the fact that the remaining population on Ilos had to die... I mean sure there weren't enough resources to keep them all in stasis for thousands of years, but why didn't they woke up a part of the population to start a new life on the surface of Ilos?
The Reapers never found Ilos, so why not live a simple life as farmer in order to ensure the survival of your own race?
The Reapers never found Ilos, so why not live a simple life as farmer in order to ensure the survival of your own race?
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Posté 05 août 2011 - 01:18
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the problem its the low number of Prothean, not enough for repopulate .
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Posté 05 août 2011 - 01:30
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I don't think that waking up the Protheans on Ilos instead of just shutting down the power support for the cryo chambers would be a better solution;
after all, we don't know much about Protheans - what did they eat, how their society looked like and so on.
And they were no farmers, it was a research facility - so presumably, the whole Ilos personel should be awoken at once to make 'preserving the species' a viable option - and they couldn't take that risk.
We also don't know just how 'good' at annihilating the organic life the Reapers are: how much living organisms must exist for them to take actions;
It's not impossible, that after initial 'reaping' the world of organic life the Reapers simply stay over the ruined cities/settlements/whatever and wait another hundred years to ensure themselves that they did the job right.
after all, we don't know much about Protheans - what did they eat, how their society looked like and so on.
And they were no farmers, it was a research facility - so presumably, the whole Ilos personel should be awoken at once to make 'preserving the species' a viable option - and they couldn't take that risk.
We also don't know just how 'good' at annihilating the organic life the Reapers are: how much living organisms must exist for them to take actions;
It's not impossible, that after initial 'reaping' the world of organic life the Reapers simply stay over the ruined cities/settlements/whatever and wait another hundred years to ensure themselves that they did the job right.
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Posté 05 août 2011 - 02:12
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As long as he has full dialogue, and can tell us about the times before our time, it will be great. Combat wise though, I don't know. Maybe he can be a researcher.
OR SHE!
OR SHE!
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Posté 05 août 2011 - 03:14
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FRANCESCO84Inn wrote...
the problem its the low number of Prothean, not enough for repopulate .
Have you seen that tomb on Ilos? There must have been thousands of Protheans there. More then enough to repopulate...
stysiaq wrote...
I don't think that waking up the Protheans on Ilos instead of just shutting down the power support for the cryo chambers would be a better solution;
after all, we don't know much about Protheans - what did they eat, how their society looked like and so on.
And they were no farmers, it was a research facility - so presumably, the whole Ilos personel should be awoken at once to make 'preserving the species' a viable option - and they couldn't take that risk.
We also don't know just how 'good' at annihilating the organic life the Reapers are: how much living organisms must exist for them to take actions;
It's not impossible, that after initial 'reaping' the world of organic life the Reapers simply stay over the ruined cities/settlements/whatever and wait another hundred years to ensure themselves that they did the job right.
Yeah, in order to make it work, Vigil must have woken up the entire personel at once and not only a few Protheans per year... But then again I think Ilos was not discovered by the Reapers... And I mean come on! Ilos is a planet. There must be enough space to grow enough food for the survival of a species... Especially when they already have a city and an infrastructure there...
In my eyes Vigil was kinda an evil AI... I am quite sure most of the Protheans in the cryotubes didn't know that they won't ever wake up again...
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Posté 05 août 2011 - 04:10
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^Ilos was visited by Reapers.
As for Vigil?
He was programmed to do that in case Reaper invasion takes too long otherwise there wouldn't be any more energy for cryo chambers and with releasing everyone they could have been discovered by Reapers.
Ilos description:
In the golden age of the Protheans, Ilos was a verdant world, dotted with the spires and arches of magnificent cities. Even casual observation shows this is no longer the case. Ilos has been devastated by means unknown, its entire surface changed to the color of rust. The atmosphere shows heightened levels of oxygen. Wildfires, presumably ignited by lightning strikes, can be seen burning on the dark side. This indicates that most –— if not all — respiring animal life forms have died off.
As for Vigil?
He was programmed to do that in case Reaper invasion takes too long otherwise there wouldn't be any more energy for cryo chambers and with releasing everyone they could have been discovered by Reapers.
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Posté 05 août 2011 - 04:19
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Yes Mesina2, and Vigil explains to Shepard and the squad the impossibility to repopulate the Prothean spicies with a limited number fo survivors.
And one group of this scientists was going to the Citidal for put in the custodians the program for not activate the relay.
And not its possible discover in the galaxy a lost Prothean planet , bicouse this supposed the closing of the relay and the impossibility to go in the planet for the organic spicies.
And one group of this scientists was going to the Citidal for put in the custodians the program for not activate the relay.
And not its possible discover in the galaxy a lost Prothean planet , bicouse this supposed the closing of the relay and the impossibility to go in the planet for the organic spicies.
