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[DarthSliver]

I was just thinking, what if Prothy does help us and makes comment about our tech being Primitive compared to what Protheans had before being wiped out?

[Alexisonf1re]

One thing im sure about prothy, i dont want him to look like the collectors....
That would be absoluuuuuutely lame.

[stysiaq]

Arcian wrote...

That's really good. You can upload it to the group if you want, we need more prothean artwork in there. 

Well, probably I will, that one is just a 'prothotype' next one will be better.

EDIT: I think that protheans should share some details with the collectors, but just details. If you look at my picture you'll see collector-like lines on the forhead.

I find the Ilos statues more ghastly and disturbing. But I think that Bio still has some room for creativity with Prothy.

Modifié par stysiaq, 15 août 2011 - 08:57 .

[Iron Star]

@Alexisonf1re Considering the statues on Ilos and the picture BW gave us in ME2 (http://images.wikia....dexProthean.png) the probability that the prothean will look exactly like a collector is pretty low.

[Alexisonf1re]

Thats a husk..?

[stysiaq]

I always thought that the codex Prothean is a prothean husk.

[Bad King]

http://social.biowar...3/index/7617873

This was a thread I made a while ago regarding Prothean squadmate speculation. It was mainly based on Liara's comments at the end of LotSB.

Modifié par Bad King, 16 août 2011 - 03:26 .

[Alexisonf1re]

What if it was a prothean AI, inside a robot or something =S

[Bad King]

Arcian wrote...

@bad king: Yes I know of that thread. Too bad it got locked down... and died, for that matter. People are too dismissive.

Yeah poor Prothy is getting a lot of hate.

Modifié par Bad King, 16 août 2011 - 08:52 .

[stysiaq]

Arcian wrote...

@bad king: So did Legion before ME2's release. Now he has a solid and devoted fanbase.

Besides, name one Mass Effect character who isn't receiving heaps of hate on a regular basis.

I didn't see much Wrex hate.

[Siansonea]

I have a wackadoo theory, I don't know if it's been mentioned by others in this thread, but what the heck.

I think that instead of being stewards of sapient species on the verge of coming into their own, the Protheans were actively modifying the various species in the galaxy to hurry them along. If they had the technology, and it appears they did, it's likely they wouldn't just take a passive role with the Reapers. Why would they put evolution into overdrive? So that in case their efforts to save themselves failed, the Reapers would face LOTS of sapient species in the next cycle, rather than just one or two. Perhaps the overwhelming numbers in a crowded galaxy would give the next group more of a fighting chance than the Protheans themselves would face.

Now here's where it really gets weird. I think it's possible that humans are modified asari, created by the Protheans during the Pleistocene. The asari had to be the Protheans clear choice for Most Likely To Succeed in the next growth cycle. It makes sense that they would want to propogate a population of asari elsewhere. But asari are naturally biotic, and their monogendered culture makes them prime candidates for rapid development. They will likely rise to prominence near the end of a Reaper cycle, just before an extinction. Well, how to you make an asari colony come to prominence at the beginning of a Reaper cycle, just AFTER an extinction? Well, closing off the system's mass relay is a good start, but you'd need to delay the asari colony's development too. First, you'd need to take away the natural biotics, which are only really possible on an eezo-rich planet like Thessia anyway. But asari reproduction relies on biotics, so now what? Easy, make the species dual-gendered, like many of the other species around. Evolution can take care of the rest. This way, if the massive forces of uplifted species, led by the overachiever asari, fail to stop the Reapers, the modified asari species will rise to prominence shortly afterward, as soon as they figure out how to reactivate their dormant mass relay, or develop FTL on their own and travel to the "hub system" of their local cluster. These asari hybrids would then have almost an entire 50,000 year growth cycle to learn about the mass relay network and the Reaper extinction cycle, especially if the Protheans left lots of bread crumbs for them to follow.

I dunno, it's just a theory, but I have always wondered why humans look so much like asari. It would also explain things like the "missing link" and some other things.

It's also possible that Earth was a previously harvested world, from the cycle before the Prothean's own growth cycle. Let's say that the previous group of sapient Earth people was called the Atlanteans, and they ruled Earth and the local galactic community from 150,000 to 100,000 years ago, in the Pleistocene. Perhaps they were akin to Neanderthals or some other previously unknown hominid. If they weren't widely dispersed on the planet, they might not have left much of a fossil record. Anyway, they get wiped out, all their tech taken by the Reapers, and the Protheans find their remnants during their own growth phase. Chances are the Reapers wouldn't look for a new sapient species on a world they just harvested a couple of cycles ago. What better place to hide a species being groomed to challenge the Reapers? Perfect spot for an asari hybrid species to incubate. Something to think about...

[stysiaq]

Siansonea II wrote...

I have a wackadoo theory, I don't know if it's been mentioned by others in this thread, but what the heck.

Well, I think your theory as a whole is far too smart to be even half accurate, but some points are interesting and worth discussing (the whole theory is, but some points can actually be true. Like BioWare true.)

I think that instead of being stewards of sapient species on the verge of coming into their own, the Protheans were actively modifying the various species in the galaxy to hurry them along. If they had the technology, and it appears they did, it's likely they wouldn't just take a passive role with the Reapers. Why would they put evolution into overdrive? So that in case their efforts to save themselves failed, the Reapers would face LOTS of sapient species in the next cycle, rather than just one or two. Perhaps the overwhelming numbers in a crowded galaxy would give the next group more of a fighting chance than the Protheans themselves would face.

That assumes the Prothies were aware of the Cycle and the Reapers. In other threads some users argued, that the fact, they were surprised by the attack (as Vigil explained on Ilos) is not exactly the same as not knowing the attack will occur at all. If Protheans really wanted to make ground for other sapient races to evolve as quickly as possible, they should've gain the knowledge of the Reapers and realise that it is too late for them to fully prepare, but there's room to put evolution to overdrive. I think they did not have time even for that. I just looked at the timeline. it is about 3k years between events of ME and discovery of the Citadel by Asari. It's still to little time for Your theory to apply.

Now here's where it really gets weird.

Oh yes, it does. :-)

I think it's possible that humans are modified asari, created by the Protheans during the Pleistocene. The asari had to be the Protheans clear choice for Most Likely To Succeed in the next growth cycle. It makes sense that they would want to propogate a population of asari elsewhere. But asari are naturally biotic, and their monogendered culture makes them prime candidates for rapid development. They will likely rise to prominence near the end of a Reaper cycle, just before an extinction. Well, how to you make an asari colony come to prominence at the beginning of a Reaper cycle, just AFTER an extinction? Well, closing off the system's mass relay is a good start, but you'd need to delay the asari colony's development too. First, you'd need to take away the natural biotics, which are only really possible on an eezo-rich planet like Thessia anyway. But asari reproduction relies on biotics, so now what? Easy, make the species dual-gendered, like many of the other species around. Evolution can take care of the rest. This way, if the massive forces of uplifted species, led by the overachiever asari, fail to stop the Reapers, the modified asari species will rise to prominence shortly afterward, as soon as they figure out how to reactivate their dormant mass relay, or develop FTL on their own and travel to the "hub system" of their local cluster. These asari hybrids would then have almost an entire 50,000 year growth cycle to learn about the mass relay network and the Reaper extinction cycle, especially if the Protheans left lots of bread crumbs for them to follow.

That would authomatically make need for another top-secret nobody knows Ilos-like facility focused on slowing down human developement, and also, preventing other species from even making contact with Humans.

Also, feel free to update me on biotic background, because I don't know if it is just this 'Cycle' invention, or is there any evidence that Protheans already knew biotics.

I dunno, it's just a theory, but I have always wondered why humans look so much like asari. It would also explain things like the "missing link" and some other things.

One can dream it wasn't just for the sake of selling more copies because of possibility to bang a blue alien human-looking chick with another chick.

It's also possible that Earth was a previously harvested world, from the cycle before the Prothean's own growth cycle. Let's say that the previous group of sapient Earth people was called the Atlanteans, and they ruled Earth and the local galactic community from 150,000 to 100,000 years ago, in the Pleistocene. Perhaps they were akin to Neanderthals or some other previously unknown hominid. If they weren't widely dispersed on the planet, they might not have left much of a fossil record. Anyway, they get wiped out, all their tech taken by the Reapers, and the Protheans find their remnants during their own growth phase. Chances are the Reapers wouldn't look for a new sapient species on a world they just harvested a couple of cycles ago. What better place to hide a species being groomed to challenge the Reapers? Perfect spot for an asari hybrid species to incubate. Something to think about...

The Reapers are mentioned by Vigil to be extremely careful about keeping their secrets. And that includes ensuring, that the next organic generation does not have a clue the Cycle even exists.

Cool theory though

[Siansonea]

[quote]stysiaq wrote...

[quote]Siansonea II wrote...

I have a wackadoo theory, I don't know if it's been mentioned by others in this thread, but what the heck.

[/quote]

Well, I think your theory as a whole is far too smart to be even half accurate, but some points are interesting and worth discussing (the whole theory is, but some points can actually be true. Like BioWare true.)

[quote]

I think that instead of being stewards of sapient species on the verge of coming into their own, the Protheans were actively modifying the various species in the galaxy to hurry them along. If they had the technology, and it appears they did, it's likely they wouldn't just take a passive role with the Reapers. Why would they put evolution into overdrive? So that in case their efforts to save themselves failed, the Reapers would face LOTS of sapient species in the next cycle, rather than just one or two. Perhaps the overwhelming numbers in a crowded galaxy would give the next group more of a fighting chance than the Protheans themselves would face.

[/quote]

That assumes the Prothies were aware of the Cycle and the Reapers. In other threads some users argued, that the fact, they were surprised by the attack (as Vigil explained on Ilos) is not exactly the same as not knowing the attack will occur at all. If Protheans really wanted to make ground for other sapient races to evolve as quickly as possible, they should've gain the knowledge of the Reapers and realise that it is too late for them to fully prepare, but there's room to put evolution to overdrive. I think they did not have time even for that. I just looked at the timeline. it is about 3k years between events of ME and discovery of the Citadel by Asari. It's still to little time for Your theory to apply.[/quote]

I'm not sure where you're getting the 3K number. It's been 2,765 years since the asari discovered the Citadel, and the salarians discovered it sixty years later. But it's been 50,000 years since the Protheans were destroyed. Whatever tinkering the Protheans may have done, it was with our distant ancestors and potentially the distant ancestors of the asari, salarians, etc. We do know that they were watching humans before 50,000 years ago, and we were already anatomically modern humans at that point, and had been for quite a while. Incidentally, human migration from Africa began around 50,000 years ago, and humanity really started to get it together around then. Coincidence?

[quote]

Now here's where it really gets weird.

[/quote]
Oh yes, it does. :-)

[quote]

I think it's possible that humans are modified asari, created by the Protheans during the Pleistocene. The asari had to be the Protheans clear choice for Most Likely To Succeed in the next growth cycle. It makes sense that they would want to propogate a population of asari elsewhere. But asari are naturally biotic, and their monogendered culture makes them prime candidates for rapid development. They will likely rise to prominence near the end of a Reaper cycle, just before an extinction. Well, how to you make an asari colony come to prominence at the beginning of a Reaper cycle, just AFTER an extinction? Well, closing off the system's mass relay is a good start, but you'd need to delay the asari colony's development too. First, you'd need to take away the natural biotics, which are only really possible on an eezo-rich planet like Thessia anyway. But asari reproduction relies on biotics, so now what? Easy, make the species dual-gendered, like many of the other species around. Evolution can take care of the rest. This way, if the massive forces of uplifted species, led by the overachiever asari, fail to stop the Reapers, the modified asari species will rise to prominence shortly afterward, as soon as they figure out how to reactivate their dormant mass relay, or develop FTL on their own and travel to the "hub system" of their local cluster. These asari hybrids would then have almost an entire 50,000 year growth cycle to learn about the mass relay network and the Reaper extinction cycle, especially if the Protheans left lots of bread crumbs for them to follow.

[/quote]

That would authomatically make need for another top-secret nobody knows Ilos-like facility focused on slowing down human developement, and also, preventing other species from even making contact with Humans.

Also, feel free to update me on biotic background, because I don't know if it is just this 'Cycle' invention, or is there any evidence that Protheans already knew biotics.[/quote]

The Protheans had to know about biotics. If they observed humans, at the very least they also had to have observed the asari and other naturally biotic species. I'm sure Thessia isn't the only world out there that is swimming in eezo. Biotics are a naturally occurring phenomenon, and a natural progression from mass effect science. If they understood mass effect fields, they'd have to be pretty clueless not to understand biotics as well.

And it's almost a certainty that the Protheans had other top-secret facilities. We know of at least one, the one on Mars. If it wasn't a secret, if there were files on the Citadel about it, the Reapers would have taken the tech when they destroyed the rest of the Prothean's settlements. The Reapers would have come to Mars and investigated, and then they would have discovered the iced-over mass relay, etc. I posit that the Reapers did not think the Sol system was worth visiting, thus they did not discover the Mars cache that jumpstarted humanity's presence in the galactic community. It's also worth noting that the Mars cache was even there at all. What would be the point of leaving the info cache on Mars at all, if not to give humans a leg up on mass effect technology and space travel. Somebody wanted us to find that cache, and that gave us exactly what we needed to get up to speed quickly. And interestingly enough, it turns out that humanity makes this discovery sometime AFTER the Reaper extinction cycle was originally supposed to take place. We know this because Sovereign was already working with Saren during the events of Mass Effect: Revelations, which takes place shortly after First Contact with the turians. I don't know how long Sovereign was looking for a Plan B, but if the original extinction HAD taken place as scheduled, chances are humanity would not have arrived on the scene until after it was all over.

[quote][quote]

I dunno, it's just a theory, but I have always wondered why humans look so much like asari. It would also explain things like the "missing link" and some other things.

[/quote]

One can dream it wasn't just for the sake of selling more copies because of possibility to bang a blue alien human-looking chick with another chick.[/quote]

Well, that is the "metagame" reason, we know that, but it would be nice to have some kind of cool story reason for the remarkable resemblance between the two species.

[quote][quote]
It's also possible that Earth was a previously harvested world, from the cycle before the Prothean's own growth cycle. Let's say that the previous group of sapient Earth people was called the Atlanteans, and they ruled Earth and the local galactic community from 150,000 to 100,000 years ago, in the Pleistocene. Perhaps they were akin to Neanderthals or some other previously unknown hominid. If they weren't widely dispersed on the planet, they might not have left much of a fossil record. Anyway, they get wiped out, all their tech taken by the Reapers, and the Protheans find their remnants during their own growth phase. Chances are the Reapers wouldn't look for a new sapient species on a world they just harvested a couple of cycles ago. What better place to hide a species being groomed to challenge the Reapers? Perfect spot for an asari hybrid species to incubate. Something to think about...[/quote]

The Reapers are mentioned by Vigil to be extremely careful about keeping their secrets. And that includes ensuring, that the next organic generation does not have a clue the Cycle even exists.

Cool theory though

[/quote]

Well, the best laid plans of mice and Reapers...

The Reapers are kind of dumb. They can't even create good thralls. Indoctrination is a blunt instrument that ruins the subject. The Collectors are teched to the max because the Reapers can't master genetic engineering. As powerful and eternal as the Reapers are, they have some real blind spots. So it's not surprising they didn't find a lot of the evidence of their activities. Heck, they didn't even find the body of one of their own dead Reapers. It was just hurtling through space for 37 million years, give or take, until it was trapped in the gravity well of a brown dwarf. That's pretty sloppy. What, nobody did a head count? And 37 million years is a LOT of Reaper cycles.

[Siansonea]

Arcian wrote...

^****** sapiens have existed for over 200,000 years and could not possibly be repurposed asari. Other than that, your theory makes sense.

I may be wrong, but think that all of the research that proves that theory is based upon the assumption that mutations occur at a steady rate over time. If the Protheans did some tampering, the "evidence" of that tampering might look like natural evolution to geneticists. I'm not a scientist though, so it's just a theory.

[Zombiedude101]

Whilst I wouldn't really support a Prothean squadmate in ME3, it would be nice to have a surviving character. The last Prothean, the last of his/her kind. Someone whom can give a little more insight into situation perhaps.

[DarthSliver]

Arcian wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

Arcian wrote...

^****** sapiens have existed for over 200,000 years and could not possibly be repurposed asari. Other than that, your theory makes sense.

I may be wrong, but think that all of the research that proves that theory is based upon the assumption that mutations occur at a steady rate over time. If the Protheans did some tampering, the "evidence" of that tampering might look like natural evolution to geneticists. I'm not a scientist though, so it's just a theory.

I am quite positive they made some tampering, but it's very unlikely that they repurposed asari.

Really, the only possible reasons why humans and asari look alike is:

1) Metagame; because "everyone" loves blue-skinned space babe aliens.
2) Pure coincidence.
3) Some sort of panspermia a long, long, long time ago that caused the divergence.

Well it also shows that most Sapient Species come from similiar strands of DNA

[stysiaq]

Siansonea II wrote...

I'm not sure where you're getting the 3K number. It's been 2,765 years since the asari discovered the Citadel, and the salarians discovered it sixty years later. But it's been 50,000 years since the Protheans were destroyed. Whatever tinkering the Protheans may have done, it was with our distant ancestors and potentially the distant ancestors of the asari, salarians, etc. We do know that they were watching humans before 50,000 years ago, and we were already anatomically modern humans at that point, and had been for quite a while. Incidentally, human migration from Africa began around 50,000 years ago, and humanity really started to get it together around then. Coincidence?

I said 'about' 3k. I think that 300 years is not much in evolution, or early stage of tech developement. It is certainly crucial in times like ours, when tech is considered 'old' after 2 years. So maybe it really makes the difference.

The Protheans had to know about biotics. If they observed humans, at the very least they also had to have observed the asari and other naturally biotic species. I'm sure Thessia isn't the only world out there that is swimming in eezo. Biotics are a naturally occurring phenomenon, and a natural progression from mass effect science. If they understood mass effect fields, they'd have to be pretty clueless not to understand biotics as well.

And it's almost a certainty that the Protheans had other top-secret facilities. We know of at least one, the one on Mars. If it wasn't a secret, if there were files on the Citadel about it, the Reapers would have taken the tech when they destroyed the rest of the Prothean's settlements. The Reapers would have come to Mars and investigated, and then they would have discovered the iced-over mass relay, etc. I posit that the Reapers did not think the Sol system was worth visiting, thus they did not discover the Mars cache that jumpstarted humanity's presence in the galactic community. It's also worth noting that the Mars cache was even there at all. What would be the point of leaving the info cache on Mars at all, if not to give humans a leg up on mass effect technology and space travel. Somebody wanted us to find that cache, and that gave us exactly what we needed to get up to speed quickly. And interestingly enough, it turns out that humanity makes this discovery sometime AFTER the Reaper extinction cycle was originally supposed to take place. We know this because Sovereign was already working with Saren during the events of Mass Effect: Revelations, which takes place shortly after First Contact with the turians. I don't know how long Sovereign was looking for a Plan B, but if the original extinction HAD taken place as scheduled, chances are humanity would not have arrived on the scene until after it was all over.

Reapers allow the new organic civilizations discover FTL travels and Mass Relays. They want galaxy repopulated. Otherwise, they wouldn't keep the Relays operational.
I didn't read the books... yet. I'll probably buy  them to delve deeper in the universe :-) Are they any good?

Well, that is the "metagame" reason, we know that, but it would be nice to have some kind of cool story reason for the remarkable resemblance between the two species.

It's alway nicer, when something is explained, like the overheating system in ME1, but I'm afraid that modern, or 'popular' Sci-Fi, like Star Wars or Star Trek (rather than Stanislaw Lem) kinda 'established', that most of the species are humanoid-looking. The questions like
1. Why all the alien females have ******? Even some of the reptilian ones?
2. why even they have two legs, two arms and one head, and reproductive organs vulnerable for kicks?
3. Why everyone understand each other or speak english?

are in most cases left without the answers. I loved ME answer for question 3, the first two are generally left to speculations.

The Reapers are kind of dumb. They can't even create good thralls. Indoctrination is a blunt instrument that ruins the subject. The Collectors are teched to the max because the Reapers can't master genetic engineering. As powerful and eternal as the Reapers are, they have some real blind spots. So it's not surprising they didn't find a lot of the evidence of their activities. Heck, they didn't even find the body of one of their own dead Reapers. It was just hurtling through space for 37 million years, give or take, until it was trapped in the gravity well of a brown dwarf. That's pretty sloppy. What, nobody did a head count? And 37 million years is a LOT of Reaper cycles.

The Reapers were a really strong idea in ME1. After Virmire encounter with Sovereign I really hoped, that the trillogy will end with further trapping the Reapers in the dark space. That would be truly a grim victory - knowing, that they exist, and they can only be delayed, not destroyed.
Unfortunately, ME2 went a little bit too far in the Hollywood direction - Reapers being reckless and impatient, and able to just fly to the Milky Way without using Citadel or other MRs.

End of the Reaper off-topic, lets get back to Protheans :-)

[Siansonea]

stysiaq wrote...

I said 'about' 3k. I think that 300 years is not much in evolution, or early stage of tech developement. It is certainly crucial in times like ours, when tech is considered 'old' after 2 years. So maybe it really makes the difference.

That's why I think the Protheans would create a "Plan C" species, in case the next Reaper extinction is successful. If the combined might of the asari and the other uplifted species isn't enough to stop the Reapers, well, instead of waiting 47,000 years for the next spacefaring species to discover the Citadel, the "Plan C" species would discover the Citadel in the first thousand years or so of the cycle. They would then have almost an entire growth cycle to discover the secret to stopping the Reapers and unlocking the secrets of the Citadel and the mass relays, and turn the Reapers own tools against them. They could reprogram all the mass relays to "bounce" a Reaper IFF into the nearby star, rather than out into space in the vicinity of the relay. Or perhaps use the technology of the mass relay to disable the Reaper ship as it uses the relay. There are a LOT of things you can do to stop the Reapers if you have 50,000 years to lay an ambush. Even if they leave a few Reapers scattered around to keep tabs on things, a clever species could subvert Indoctrination and all the other tools that the Reapers use to dominate the galaxy.

I've often wondered if the Reapers also subjugate the Magellanic Clouds dwarf galaxies and the Adromeda and Triangulum galaxies, as well as the other small galaxies in our local group of galaxies. 

And it's almost a certainty that the Protheans had other top-secret facilities. We know of at least one, the one on Mars. If it wasn't a secret, if there were files on the Citadel about it, the Reapers would have taken the tech when they destroyed the rest of the Prothean's settlements. The Reapers would have come to Mars and investigated, and then they would have discovered the iced-over mass relay, etc. I posit that the Reapers did not think the Sol system was worth visiting, thus they did not discover the Mars cache that jumpstarted humanity's presence in the galactic community. It's also worth noting that the Mars cache was even there at all. What would be the point of leaving the info cache on Mars at all, if not to give humans a leg up on mass effect technology and space travel. Somebody wanted us to find that cache, and that gave us exactly what we needed to get up to speed quickly. And interestingly enough, it turns out that humanity makes this discovery sometime AFTER the Reaper extinction cycle was originally supposed to take place. We know this because Sovereign was already working with Saren during the events of Mass Effect: Revelations, which takes place shortly after First Contact with the turians. I don't know how long Sovereign was looking for a Plan B, but if the original extinction HAD taken place as scheduled, chances are humanity would not have arrived on the scene until after it was all over.

Reapers allow the new organic civilizations discover FTL travels and Mass Relays. They want galaxy repopulated. Otherwise, they wouldn't keep the Relays operational.

But the Prothean data cache wasn't left by the Reapers, it was left by the Protheans (as far as we know). And our relay wasn't left open, it was deliberately encased in ice. I also posit that it was deliberate kicked out of the plane of the ecliptic. Think about it, if you were looking for a mass relay, you'd look in the plane of the ecliptic. But to have the mass relay encased in ice adjacent to a random dwarf planet, THAT would be hard to find. Unless you know where to look (thanks to a handy dandy data cache on Mars). A cursory sweep by a Reaper at FTL speeds would probably not reveal anything noteworthy if they swept through the Sol system at all during the Prothean extinction. That's why I think Earth may have already been "reaped" in a previous cycle, because it would be a low-probability location for a new sapient species to arise, and therefore not a priority to investigate by the Reapers (who are idiots).

I didn't read the books... yet. I'll probably buy  them to delve deeper in the universe :-) Are they any good?

I think they're decent. Not deathless prose, but fun reads.

Well, that is the "metagame" reason, we know that, but it would be nice to have some kind of cool story reason for the remarkable resemblance between the two species.

It's alway nicer, when something is explained, like the overheating system in ME1, but I'm afraid that modern, or 'popular' Sci-Fi, like Star Wars or Star Trek (rather than Stanislaw Lem) kinda 'established', that most of the species are humanoid-looking. The questions like
1. Why all the alien females have ******? Even some of the reptilian ones?
2. why even they have two legs, two arms and one head, and reproductive organs vulnerable for kicks?
3. Why everyone understand each other or speak english?

are in most cases left without the answers. I loved ME answer for question 3, the first two are generally left to speculations.

If turian, krogan or salarian females have breasts, I will facepalm, that's for sure. Mammal traits should be limited to clearly mammalian species. Heck, the name "mammal" comes from "mammary", so breasts are one of our defining characteristics (or rather, milk glands).

The Reapers are kind of dumb. They can't even create good thralls. Indoctrination is a blunt instrument that ruins the subject. The Collectors are teched to the max because the Reapers can't master genetic engineering. As powerful and eternal as the Reapers are, they have some real blind spots. So it's not surprising they didn't find a lot of the evidence of their activities. Heck, they didn't even find the body of one of their own dead Reapers. It was just hurtling through space for 37 million years, give or take, until it was trapped in the gravity well of a brown dwarf. That's pretty sloppy. What, nobody did a head count? And 37 million years is a LOT of Reaper cycles.

The Reapers were a really strong idea in ME1. After Virmire encounter with Sovereign I really hoped, that the trillogy will end with further trapping the Reapers in the dark space. That would be truly a grim victory - knowing, that they exist, and they can only be delayed, not destroyed.
Unfortunately, ME2 went a little bit too far in the Hollywood direction - Reapers being reckless and impatient, and able to just fly to the Milky Way without using Citadel or other MRs.

End of the Reaper off-topic, lets get back to Protheans :-)

I think trapping the Reapers in dark space is a stopgap measure at best. All they have to do is travel toward the Milky Way at FTL speeds until they get to a mass relay, which is exactly what they DID do in Arrival. I'm sure their dark space enclave is near a globular cluster or something, so they have an energy source. They wouldn't be in literal dark space, with zero stars around. And I think the Reapers have to be stopped, once and for all. And I think the mass relays and the Citadel are the key to that. After all, if you take away their ability to move around freely, they can be destroyed much more easily. Lock them out of the mass relay network and they're toast.

Modifié par Siansonea II, 17 août 2011 - 05:05 .