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[CroGamer002]

Morinth<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Jacob<<<<<<<Liara<everyone else

[S.A.K]

Dammit! Pressed on 2 stars by accident. So sorry. Can some one put 5 stars. This is not a bad thread.

[Ghost Warrior]

Arcian wrote...

S.A.K wrote...

Dammit! Pressed on 2 stars by accident. So sorry. Can some one put 5 stars. This is not a bad thread.

Actually, it is. Romance wars ALWAYS end badly. Especially when Tali is involved. No offense.

I agree

[Nodscouter]

You know, opinions are bias. That's kinda obvious. He's asking for opinions, i.e., he's asking for bias. There is no such thing as an objective opinon, so there can be no actual debate here. The debate tends to revolve around the classic ''You like things I don't like that's hurting nobody, stop doing that or you'll go to hell''

Modifié par Nodscouter, 01 août 2011 - 12:50 .

[GipsyDangeresque]

Go for Tali, since it's the relationship with more barriers to hinder it, which would make it more meaningful when it lasts (and, I think all of the various romances with Shepard will be lasting ones if you so choose to continue them...) That's always been one of the main things that's pushed the relationship with Tali beyond the one with Liara in my eyes, that it's difficult, difficult even for Tali to accept to pursue emotionally because she was raised to be so utilitarian and selfless, let alone the obstacles that present themselves afterwards.

They both have some positive qualities to them, but there are little things that push it ahead for me. I'm also counting on Patrick Weekes to pretty much be a freaking amazing writer once more, like he was for Tali in ME2 and Liara in LotSB.

[Kaiser_Wilhelm]

When it comes down to it, Tali.

[Unpleasant Implications]

Liara most definetly.

[CrimsonArgie]

I prefer Liara, I find her life very interesting (being a "pureblood", her mother dying after being indoctrinated, etc). Tali has an interesting life too, I mean, being a quarian and all that, but I stiil go with Liara. Besides, she is more human than Tali, I find myself more attracted to her.

[whywhywhywhy]

StellarMagic wrote...

They have the same basic character concept in ME1... loyal, selfless, smart girl loaded with naivety. They change significantly from that baseline in ME2.

Tali basically matured a bit. She starts cursing (she doesn't in ME1). She's hopelessly nervous with relationships still, but not only is she there for Shepard, but Shepard is also there for her... Tali's plight in the trial is just about the most heart-wrenching thing for her to deal with...

Liara broke after Shepard's death. Chasing down and recovering his body, becoming an information broker, turning on a hunt for vengeance with Feron's disappearance. Lair of the Shadow Broker suggests that she's recovered from that somewhat, but still... Her need for vengeance on the Shadow Broker keeping her off the SR-2 wasn't a good sign for her as a character.  It's selfish.

"I can't Shepard I have..."
"Are they more important then saving the damn galaxy Liara?"

If there is a singular canon storyline for the films I actually would expect it to be Liara for a LI in ME1, Tali for a LI for ME2, and a Tali - Liara - Shepard love triangle in ME3. They could have a whole inner beauty vs. outer beauty theme going on there too.

To me her actions were combinations of loyalty, selfishness and a bit strange if the comic is anything to go by.   Liara intially was trying to find out if you were alive, then upon knowing you were dead wanted to see/retrieve the body.  At this point Liara was being more loyal then Ash, the rest of the crew and the alliance.  Then things got a it wierd with the Shadowbroker trying to sell him to the collectors and she meets with Cerberus who was also searching for him.  They tell her they can bring him back so she agrees to give him(tim) the body,  This to me was just a hard choice, I can't say it was just selfishness well not completely ? 

Her selfishness really shows in her quest for vengeance for Feron a SB and Cerberus double agent who she admits betrayed her more then once.  If he betrayed her why does she feel such a strong need to avenge him ? Feron was/is the main driving point of her revenge.  She was angry that the SB took your body and tried to sell it but infuriated about Feron, suddenly his vengeance truimphs everything else.  And that's just too strange because the only other person she's shown that level of dedication is Shepard. 

I personally think they planned to have both me1 love interests move on and they changed it because they percieved fan backlash or just wanted Liara as the "golden girl."  But the story just doesn't make any sense.  I think they should just admit that Liara and Feron had something and that it may or may not have meant as much to her as her relationship with Shepard.  Without the admission some of her actions don't make sense.


edit: I like Tali but she didn't check to see if Shepard died, I would think all of the crew who thought of shepard as a friend or just important to the mission would have.  But nope it was Liara yet Liara's allegiances come in to question when she refuses to help you knowing she gave you to Cerberus.  I like Liara her me1 romance seemed more like to people attracted to each other and trying to figure it out.  Unlike Ash's which feels like a fling.  And that makes me almost pull for Liara over Tali as the main LI, almost but even Tali she seems to be missing something.  I like them both but the more I think about it the more I'd prefer someone else as the main LI.

Modifié par whywhywhywhy, 01 août 2011 - 10:54 .

[Son of Illusive Man]

Speak for your selves.  I (my Shepard) is very grateful to Liara and happy to be alive.  Sure, I got handed to a terrorist organization, but I also happened to SAVE THE ****ING UNIVERSE because of that.

Alistair4Ever wrote...

Is this even a question? Liara 100%

I agree.

[Rekkampum]

Nodscouter wrote...

You know, opinions are bias. That's kinda obvious. He's asking for opinions, i.e., he's asking for bias. There is no such thing as an objective opinon, so there can be no actual debate here. The debate tends to revolve around the classic ''You like things I don't like that's hurting nobody, stop doing that or you'll go to hell''

From a completely neutral point of view that favors neither side, I have deduced that your opinion of other's opinions is biased.

[S.A.K]

Arcian wrote...

S.A.K wrote...

Dammit! Pressed on 2 stars by accident. So sorry. Can some one put 5 stars. This is not a bad thread.

Actually, it is. Romance wars ALWAYS end badly. Especially when Tali is involved. No offense.

Romance wars? LOL at that:lol:

[Dariustwinblade]

Some one PLEASE

Hit this thread with a biotic field so hard that whats left of it fits in a tea cup.

[CERBERUSDEMAN]

Roxy12 wrote...

Liara

StellarMagic wrote...


Lets face it, Tali is loyal, selfless, and smart. That and I can't wait to hear Tali's shock at being picked over an Asari. XP

Tali asks Shepard to hide war crimes from the governing body of her people to preserve her father's memory.

How is that selfless?

She asks Shepard to hide the evidence so that her father isn't made out to be a super devil through the generations at the risk of her own exile; how is that not selfless?

On topic I pick Tali; I always found her interesting and she seemed like a good person also.
In ME1 I picked Liara; I liked her personality but when ME2 rolled around I didn't like her change though I can see why she did.
 
As other people have said here choose who you want to or if you want to RP a little more who you think you're Shep would like more but I have to say the hug on Tali's Loyalty mission might sell you.

[BioWareM0d13]

Clonedzero wrote...

liara. the romance is actually practical.

the shepard and tali thing would fall apart quickly. always having to take pills and other meds, having to prepare clean rooms, having to schedule their intimate moments? yeah, that'd kill the relationship QUICK.

This.

The Tali romance was nothing more than fan service. As such it doesn't really make much sense. I mean Shepard could potentially kill Tali by spending the night with her. If he really cared about her, would be willing to risk her life just to get some?

[kumquats]

Han Shot First wrote...

Clonedzero wrote...

liara. the romance is actually practical.

the shepard and tali thing would fall apart quickly. always having to take pills and other meds, having to prepare clean rooms, having to schedule their intimate moments? yeah, that'd kill the relationship QUICK.

This.

The Tali romance was nothing more than fan service. As such it doesn't really make much sense. I mean Shepard could potentially kill Tali by spending the night with her. If he really cared about her, would be willing to risk her life just to get some?

Tali did by far more dangerous things than sleeping with Shepard. It's her decision if she wants to risk it, not Shepards. She is an adult who knows her body.

And yes I would totally sleep with the man I love before going on a SM, who cares about death in that situation?
I mean, what a way to go!

[kumquats]

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

kumquats wrote...

Tali did by far more dangerous things than sleeping with Shepard. It's her decision if she wants to risk it, not Shepards. She is an adult who knows her body.

And yes I would totally sleep with the man I love before going on a SM, who cares about death in that situation?
I mean, what a way to go!

It's a risk for both Tali AND Shepard.


That's not smart for either of them to do.

Who does smart things when they are in love?

[PseudoEthnic]

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

They should. Especially when the entire galaxy is at stake.

With that mind set, none of the romances are smart.