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[Wydi]

Persephone wrote...
Well, Saturn Austria messes up a lot, but their (limited) RPG section isn't 90% meh in my opinion.

...says the home of Gothic 4..

[nitefyre410]

MorrigansLove wrote...

The story in DA2 is the worst I've ever seen in a RPG.

 


I would say are you kidding but I know you are dead serious... which its funny and sad in the same breath. 


Yes like others have said  - play more RPG's

[Persephone]

Wydi wrote...

Persephone wrote...
Well, Saturn Austria messes up a lot, but their (limited) RPG section isn't 90% meh in my opinion.

...says the home of Gothic 4..

Last time I checked, Gothic IV was made in Germany?

[Persephone]

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

Persephone wrote...

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Darth Krytie wrote...

Persephone wrote...

MorrigansLove wrote...

The story in DA2 is the worst I've ever seen in a RPG.

Play Gothic IV, Fable I&II, Risen, Two Worlds, Might and Magic X and then I dare you to repeat that claim.

This. People totally need some more perspective before tossing superlatives around.

Having joined Steam and browsing their "RPG" section actually doubled my affection for DAII. Some MAJOR duds on there.

Let me get this right... The store in which you buy your games doesn't have any bad RPGs? That's interesting. Which store do you use?

Well, Saturn Austria messes up a lot, but their (limited) RPG section isn't 90% meh in my opinion.

Let me get out of your way then. It looks like you are more interested in trolling today.

HEY! What did I do this time? :crying:

[happy_daiz]

Darth Krytie wrote...

Persephone wrote...

MorrigansLove wrote...

The story in DA2 is the worst I've ever seen in a RPG.

Play Gothic IV, Fable I&II, Risen, Two Worlds, Might and Magic X and then I dare you to repeat that claim.

This. People totally need some more perspective before tossing superlatives around.

Agreed. Add Venetica and Divinity 2: Ego Draconis to that list (which both just sucked overall)

Personally, I think some people are only happy when it rains.

[Wydi]

Persephone wrote...

Last time I checked, Gothic IV was made in Germany?

Well..at least the Publisher was in Austria.

Nevermind, there are many rubbish RPGs out there. Most of them can't even be called RPGs in it's true sense, since they are hack'n'slash games with a little more dialogue.

Let me try to recall the better RPGs from the last couple of years...there are the BioWare games (DA and ME), The Witcher, Drakensang, Fable 3, ..erm..that's about it. 

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

IMO, Divnity 2: DKS >> DA 2.

To be fair though, it's because of the gameplay, not story. Story was okay, not great, not bad.

[Persephone]

Wydi wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Last time I checked, Gothic IV was made in Germany?

Well..at least the Publisher was in Austria.

Nevermind, there are many rubbish RPGs out there. Most of them can't even be called RPGs in it's true sense, since they are hack'n'slash games with a little more dialogue.

Let me try to recall the better RPGs from the last couple of years...there are the BioWare games (DA and ME), The Witcher, Drakensang, Fable 3, ..erm..that's about it. 

Having a blast with Eschalon: Book 1 atm. Will probably buy the sequel. RPG gold IMHO.

[Persephone]

mrcrusty wrote...

IMO, Divnity 2: DKS >> DA 2.

To be fair though, it's because of the gameplay, not story. Story was okay, not great, not bad.

We were talking about the story though. Never quite got into Divinity I or II. 

Oh, and another contender: Sacred I&II. Most repetetive game ever.

[happy_daiz]

mrcrusty wrote...

IMO, Divnity 2: DKS >> DA 2.

To be fair though, it's because of the gameplay, not story. Story was okay, not great, not bad.

I haven't tried the Dragon Knight Saga; I just tried that crappy Ego Draconis. Honestly, I didn't give it much of a chance, because the gamplay was absolutely craptacular, but from what I could tell, there was no story, either.

[happy_daiz]

Persephone wrote...

mrcrusty wrote...

IMO, Divnity 2: DKS >> DA 2.

To be fair though, it's because of the gameplay, not story. Story was okay, not great, not bad.

We were talking about the story though. Never quite got into Divinity I or II. 

Oh, and another contender: Sacred I&II. Most repetetive game ever.

Sadly, I played Sacred 2 quite a bit for a while there. No story, granted, but it was a good way to pass time until other games came out. Plus, I got to play as a seraphim! 

[Sakatox]

Persephone wrote...

Sakatox wrote...

Can i nail that closet shut then? Your fanness reeks and leaks out.
Enjoyment and DA2 should never be mentioned in the same sentence, just because so many things were wrong with it.(As in everything, except for *maybe* Varric's chesthair.)
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According to which dogma, pray?:innocent:

Pffft. Dogma, yeah right. No. Thing is, DA2 embodies *EDIT* I might have gone over the top with the bashing, so before i get banned for saying my opinion, i'll rephrase it. It's not Horse.... you know what, it's just that DA2 is insulting to every word that indicates bad quality. It's also insulting and offending to fans and haters alike. Fans just like to be abused by their overlords.

mrcrusty wrote...

IMO, Divnity 2: DKS >> DA 2.

To be fair though, it's because of the gameplay, not story. Story was okay, not great, not bad.

Not to be really unfair to DA2, but Anything >>>> ..... >>>>> DA2 [....] = anything i don't like. DA2 is on that level.

Modifié par Sakatox, 03 août 2011 - 06:54 .

[Wydi]

Persephone wrote...
Having a blast with Eschalon: Book 1 atm. Will probably buy the sequel. RPG gold IMHO.

True, Eschalon is a nice game.
But it's nothing that BioWare could publish, since it's sooo very 90s. 

Sakatox wrote...

It's not Horse.... you know what, it's just that DA2 is insulting to every word that indicates bad quality. It's also insulting and offending to fans and haters alike. Fans just like to be abused by their overlords.

Come on, it's not that bad. They haven't published a bus simulator and called it "Dragon Age", have they?
There are quite some entertaining moments in the game, and I wouldn't even say it's bad. It's just not as good as expected.

Modifié par Wydi, 03 août 2011 - 07:25 .

[corkey sweet]

xabiton wrote...

I don't get it. I bought the game about a week and a half ago beat it in a couple of days and loved it. I thought it was really fun and a huge improvement upon Dragon Age Origins and Awakening as far as game play is concerned. I even like Isabella, Carver, Avalina, and Merrill. I never thought much of Anders and Fenneris was intersting but didn't really love him.  My Hawke was a female mage with a diplomatic personality. Anyway I had a ton of fun with this even if the story was way to the left of what was in Origins and I did miss characters like Morigon, Ogrhen and Lelianna, Wynne and even Sten and Dog. Overall great game I am excited to see what happens in DA3

because it was shallow compaired to the first game. not to mention rushed

[lolnoobs]

Sakatox wrote...

Pffft. Dogma, yeah right. No. Thing is, DA2 embodies *EDIT* I might have gone over the top with the bashing, so before i get banned for saying my opinion, i'll rephrase it. It's not Horse.... you know what, it's just that DA2 is insulting to every word that indicates bad quality. It's also insulting and offending to fans and haters alike. Fans just like to be abused by their overlords.

mrcrusty wrote...

IMO, Divnity 2: DKS >> DA 2.

To be fair though, it's because of the gameplay, not story. Story was okay, not great, not bad.

Not to be really unfair to DA2, but Anything >>>> ..... >>>>> DA2 [....] = anything i don't like. DA2 is on that level.

You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. DA2 is one of the deepest RPG experiences since RPG video games. Your just an angry LARPer that misses his worthless boring numbers it seems. How can you not like it? DA2 does everything right.

[Wydi]

lolnoobs wrote...
You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. DA2 is one of the deepest RPG experiences since RPG video games. Your just an angry LARPer that misses his worthless boring numbers it seems. How can you not like it? DA2 does everything right.

I'd go for the "you're both wrong" path. 

[corkey sweet]

lolnoobs wrote...

Sakatox wrote...

Pffft. Dogma, yeah right. No. Thing is, DA2 embodies *EDIT* I might have gone over the top with the bashing, so before i get banned for saying my opinion, i'll rephrase it. It's not Horse.... you know what, it's just that DA2 is insulting to every word that indicates bad quality. It's also insulting and offending to fans and haters alike. Fans just like to be abused by their overlords.

mrcrusty wrote...

IMO, Divnity 2: DKS >> DA 2.

To be fair though, it's because of the gameplay, not story. Story was okay, not great, not bad.

Not to be really unfair to DA2, but Anything >>>> ..... >>>>> DA2 [....] = anything i don't like. DA2 is on that level.

You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. DA2 is one of the deepest RPG experiences since RPG video games. Your just an angry LARPer that misses his worthless boring numbers it seems. How can you not like it? DA2 does everything right.

sorry, i didn't realize recycled envirnments and less costumization was considered deep. oh, wait !! its not.

[lolnoobs]

corkey sweet wrote...
sorry, i didn't realize recycled envirnments and less costumization was considered deep. oh, wait !! its not.

Because it is realistic? You think all characters in DA2 have 125 suits of armor lying around?

And between act 1 and 3 there's years. So when you first clear an area of evildoers the place is empty. So others might use it again because it's...empty.

[corkey sweet]

lolnoobs wrote...

corkey sweet wrote...
sorry, i didn't realize recycled envirnments and less costumization was considered deep. oh, wait !! its not.

Because it is realistic? You think all characters in DA2 have 125 suits of armor lying around?

And between act 1 and 3 there's years. So when you first clear an area of evildoers the place is empty. So others might use it again because it's...empty.

who's talking about realism? i think we where talking about why people hate da2 and loved da:0. that said, i gave the reasons.

Modifié par corkey sweet, 03 août 2011 - 07:56 .

[lolnoobs]

Using the same evironments, it's realistic. So people shouldn't complain.

[Wydi]

lolnoobs wrote...
Because it is realistic? You think all characters in DA2 have 125 suits of armor lying around?

And between act 1 and 3 there's years. So when you first clear an area of evildoers the place is empty. So others might use it again because it's...empty.

Realistic?
Well, you know, there were no factories in the older days. Every single piece of armor or cloth was unique. And why would any person walk around in 100% the same clothing for 10 (!) years? 
And why do 2 different (!) caves in 2 different places look totally the same?
That's not realism, it's just lame.

Btw: Fenris lived in that mansion for 10 years and never managed to remove the corpses and the dirt lying around everywhere. Is that realism, too?

[corkey sweet]

i think the main issue is the recycled dungeons. kirkwall was grand, but the repetition in the few outside areas where unacceptable. if they took the time to create a few different dungeon types, there could have been a lot less hate

[lolnoobs]

Wydi wrote...

Realistic?
Yes
Well, you know, there were no factories in the older days.
So they made everything in the dirt outside?
Every single piece of armor or cloth was unique.
Ofcourse, but only very very very small details, no point wasting time on that.
And why would any person walk around in 100% the same clothing for 10 (!) years? 
More effecient? If it isn't broken, no point replacing it then.
And why do 2 different (!) caves in 2 different places look totally the same?
The maker did it. Easier that way.
That's not realism, it's just lame.
Just like real life.
Btw: Fenris lived in that mansion for 10 years and never managed to remove the corpses and the dirt lying around everywhere. Is that realism, too?
Fenris is an elf, he's really lazy.

[corkey sweet]

i don't really understand why your arguing about realism. that really has nothing to do with why people hate on DA2. its mostly because of lazy design decisions. heck, that's why i hate on DA2

[Realmzmaster]

Persephone wrote...

Wydi wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Last time I checked, Gothic IV was made in Germany?

Well..at least the Publisher was in Austria.

Nevermind, there are many rubbish RPGs out there. Most of them can't even be called RPGs in it's true sense, since they are hack'n'slash games with a little more dialogue.

Let me try to recall the better RPGs from the last couple of years...there are the BioWare games (DA and ME), The Witcher, Drakensang, Fable 3, ..erm..that's about it. 

Having a blast with Eschalon: Book 1 atm. Will probably buy the sequel. RPG gold IMHO.

@Persephone

Eschalon II is even better. BW (BasiliskWrangler aka Thomas Riegsecker) and team out did themselves. Also if you download the 1.05 version of Eschalon II you get the Secret of Fathamurk expansion pack for free. The expansion pack adds 5 to 10 more hours of game play.

It is a nice throwback to old school goodness even if it is not party based. I hear BW is working on the last game in the trilogy.