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First of all I am not surprised that fans (myself among them) liked Legacy, even though it may not got the best reviews from "official" gaming sites.

Bioware should take a note of this and see that if something is done right and in the spirit of the whole setting/story we got from DA:O, the fans will (and do) not care for the reviews.

I just hope that Bioware will even more take notes from the criticsm they got from the members on this forum (myself included), since many that thrashed DA2 did it out of care for the great game, story, setting and potential that DA:O offered.

Anyway, Legacy is a good step forward regarding story and I hope Bioware keeps it that way in the future.

I hoped that there will be an improvement regarding the conversation wheel since in many casses when you did all the questions and get back to the three options (diplomatic, sarcastic, aggresive) the line that follows sometimes seems a bit out of context. I guess and hope it will be something looked upon in future.

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True. Legacy is excellent, lets hope future DLC and DA3 go down the same path. No more recycled areas. Pat on the back for Bioware for Legacy.

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That's odd. The reviews say DA2 was good but people are saying it s*cks while reviews say Legacy s*cks and people say it's good??

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To me Legacy is like putting a mink coat on a dead horse.

Whatever their excuses they blew it with DA2. The list of bad game designs and decisions is too long to list here. The only hope for the DA universe is a DA3 developed by a different team with different goals.

Modifié par LeBurns, 01 août 2011 - 02:02 .


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I thought you never played it?

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L.Rui wrote...

That's odd. The reviews say DA2 was good but people are saying it s*cks while reviews say Legacy s*cks and people say it's good??


The bandwagon.  The sites jumped on it.

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Playing legacy is not necessary...

If you disliked dragon age 2 is useless for you spend other money to puchase a dlc for it no matter of how good it is..

I played and finished DA2 but i not played legacy so i can't give opinions on it..

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Marko GW wrote...

First of all I am not surprised that fans (myself among them) liked Legacy, even though it may not got the best reviews from "official" gaming sites.

Bioware should take a note of this and see that if something is done right and in the spirit of the whole setting/story we got from DA:O, the fans will (and do) not care for the reviews.

I just hope that Bioware will even more take notes from the criticsm they got from the members on this forum (myself included), since many that thrashed DA2 did it out of care for the great game, story, setting and potential that DA:O offered.

Anyway, Legacy is a good step forward regarding story and I hope Bioware keeps it that way in the future.

I hoped that there will be an improvement regarding the conversation wheel since in many casses when you did all the questions and get back to the three options (diplomatic, sarcastic, aggresive) the line that follows sometimes seems a bit out of context. I guess and hope it will be something looked upon in future.





I never care for reviews, I buy games if I like, don't care if is 5 stars or none. Is all about people opinions, I got Oblivion.. is like 4 half stars and I never got a character out of the prison cell.. thats how horrible that game is.
Skyrim.. isn't going to make me change my mind, not a bit.

Legacy DLC is great and people should give it a chance, just remember Legacy happens before the end game, so act 2 or the start of act 3 is the best time to play it. The items: Champion set is the best item of the game.
Have fun!=]

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Monica83 wrote...

Playing legacy is not necessary...

If you disliked dragon age 2 is useless for you


Many on this forum, including MANY of those who disliked DAII disagree with this rather shortsighted view, you know?:pinched:

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@Huntress:
So you thought the intro of DA2 was good enough to stick with but found Oblivion's intro too terrible to continue...? Interesting. I thought DA2 intro was the worst intro of any game this console generation. I hurried through that abomination of an introduction as fast as possible. It was terribadsupersuckalottadung.

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I was not a fan of DA2 at all. But I decided to buy the DLC to see just how truthful the devs were being when they said they were listening to fans and trying to make changes.

They're definitely listening to fan feedback, you can see it in the DLC. I thought Legacy was good on its own. Anyone who says it's more of the same is being disingenuous at best.

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Persephone wrote...

Monica83 wrote...

Playing legacy is not necessary...

If you disliked dragon age 2 is useless for you


Many on this forum, including MANY of those who disliked DAII disagree with this rather shortsighted view, you know?:pinched:


Actually I agree with her. Buying a DLC for a game you hate isn't very logical. There are those who gave it a shot anyways and liked it though.

But it wasn't really what I was referring to above.

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ok i thought DA 2 was an ok game but havent played legacy, honestly is it worth to buy it?

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asminho wrote...

ok i thought DA 2 was an ok game but havent played legacy, honestly is it worth to buy it?


Absolutely, it takes the best features from DAO and DA2 and melds them into 3-4 hours of great gaming fun - in my humble opinion of course.

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terrordactyl1 wrote...

asminho wrote...

ok i thought DA 2 was an ok game but havent played legacy, honestly is it worth to buy it?


Absolutely, it takes the best features from DAO and DA2 and melds them into 3-4 hours of great gaming fun - in my humble opinion of course.


thx mate. ofc  DA 2fans must have good opinions:D,

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Huntress wrote...

Marko GW wrote...

First of all I am not surprised that fans (myself among them) liked Legacy, even though it may not got the best reviews from "official" gaming sites.

Bioware should take a note of this and see that if something is done right and in the spirit of the whole setting/story we got from DA:O, the fans will (and do) not care for the reviews.

I just hope that Bioware will even more take notes from the criticsm they got from the members on this forum (myself included), since many that thrashed DA2 did it out of care for the great game, story, setting and potential that DA:O offered.

Anyway, Legacy is a good step forward regarding story and I hope Bioware keeps it that way in the future.

I hoped that there will be an improvement regarding the conversation wheel since in many casses when you did all the questions and get back to the three options (diplomatic, sarcastic, aggresive) the line that follows sometimes seems a bit out of context. I guess and hope it will be something looked upon in future.





I never care for reviews, I buy games if I like, don't care if is 5 stars or none. Is all about people opinions, I got Oblivion.. is like 4 half stars and I never got a character out of the prison cell.. thats how horrible that game is.
Skyrim.. isn't going to make me change my mind, not a bit.

Legacy DLC is great and people should give it a chance, just remember Legacy happens before the end game, so act 2 or the start of act 3 is the best time to play it. The items: Champion set is the best item of the game.
Have fun!=]

 

I felt that same way about Obilivon everyone was "OMG Awesome" and i was like "eh?"...I tried, i really tried but I just couldn't. Not going to say it did deserve the praise.  I have my eye on Skyrim so we shall see.

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asminho wrote...

ok i thought DA 2 was an ok game but havent played legacy, honestly is it worth to buy it?


Probably depends on what you like out of a DLC and DA2.

For me, the one pet peeve I have about all DLCs (not just DA) is that they try to keep expenses down by not rehiring the voice talent. So your companions are either forced to be elsewhere (ME2:Arrival) or Stand around and say nothing (ME2:LotSB). Sometimes they go a middle ground where you only get conversation if you bring the exact combination of companions (Return to Ostagar)

Since I play Bioware games for the companion interraction, I'm usually disappointed. Legacy didn't do that. They put in dialogue for everyone, and even had that dialogue vary based on when you play it. which gives it lots of replay value.

The adventure itself is very solid. Most agree that its an improvement over the base game. Loot is good for when you get it, but doesn't scale with you.

So I'd say its worth it if you loved spending time with the companions and want to know more about Dragon Age. If your favorite part is just the action, you'll probably enjoy it but find it on the short side for the price. It only gains its full value when replaying for all the dialogue.

Ugh. more long winded than I intended. Sorry about that.

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I disagree. Legacy is a step back from my perspective. Instead of taking several good concepts ( like how Act 2 was for instance ) they decided to go back to a cliche storyline.

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Cutlass Jack wrote...

asminho wrote...

ok i thought DA 2 was an ok game but havent played legacy, honestly is it worth to buy it?


Probably depends on what you like out of a DLC and DA2.

For me, the one pet peeve I have about all DLCs (not just DA) is that they try to keep expenses down by not rehiring the voice talent. So your companions are either forced to be elsewhere (ME2:Arrival) or Stand around and say nothing (ME2:LotSB). Sometimes they go a middle ground where you only get conversation if you bring the exact combination of companions (Return to Ostagar)

Since I play Bioware games for the companion interraction, I'm usually disappointed. Legacy didn't do that. They put in dialogue for everyone, and even had that dialogue vary based on when you play it. which gives it lots of replay value.

The adventure itself is very solid. Most agree that its an improvement over the base game. Loot is good for when you get it, but doesn't scale with you.

So I'd say its worth it if you loved spending time with the companions and want to know more about Dragon Age. If your favorite part is just the action, you'll probably enjoy it but find it on the short side for the price. It only gains its full value when replaying for all the dialogue.

Ugh. more long winded than I intended. Sorry about that.


np mate, thanks for the details:D it feels they fu...ed up da 2 so im a bit skeptical to buying the dlc

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Costin_Razvan wrote...

I disagree. Legacy is a step back from my perspective. Instead of taking several good concepts ( like how Act 2 was for instance ) they decided to go back to a cliche storyline.


thx for the opinions mate

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Cutlass Jack wrote...

I thought you never played it?


The demo saved my money.  Player reviews and my unfortunate brother filled me in on the rest.

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LeBurns wrote...

Cutlass Jack wrote...

I thought you never played it?


The demo saved my money.  Player reviews and my unfortunate brother filled me in on the rest.


The demo was the worst part of the game. But fair enough. Was just curious.

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they should have given us it free tbh, but what you gonna do:D

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Legacy was nice, so far the best part of DA in general, even better than DA2 in fact.

Monica83 wrote...

Playing legacy is not necessary...

I played and finished DA2 but i not played legacy so i can't give opinions on it..

Saying it's not necessary is giving your opinion on it. Nice to see you're telling us we can ignore your opinion though.

Costin_Razvan wrote...

I disagree. Legacy is a step back
from my perspective. Instead of taking several good concepts ( like how
Act 2 was for instance ) they decided to go back to a cliche
storyline.

If you just look at the broad strokes, you miss the details that actually make up the story.
That being said, I do hope they'll avoid the ''Save the world because you're awesome and completely good and right about everything'' idea in DA3.

asminho wrote...

they should have given us it free tbh, but what you gonna do:D

Why? What possible reason is there for them to give it to you beyond ''I want it for free!''? They worked on this. It's quality entertainment, why the hell would they just hand it out? Contrary to popular opinion, Bioware doesn't owe us anything for creating a game that deviates from the norm.

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Nodscouter wrote...

Legacy was nice, so far the best part of DA in general, even better than DA2 in fact.

Monica83 wrote...

Playing legacy is not necessary...

I played and finished DA2 but i not played legacy so i can't give opinions on it..

Saying it's not necessary is giving your opinion on it. Nice to see you're telling us we can ignore your opinion though.

Costin_Razvan wrote...

I disagree. Legacy is a step back
from my perspective. Instead of taking several good concepts ( like how
Act 2 was for instance ) they decided to go back to a cliche
storyline.

If you just look at the broad strokes, you miss the details that actually make up the story.
That being said, I do hope they'll avoid the ''Save the world because you're awesome and completely good and right about everything'' idea in DA3.

asminho wrote...

they should have given us it free tbh, but what you gonna do:D

Why? What possible reason is there for them to give it to you beyond ''I want it for free!''? They worked on this. It's quality entertainment, why the hell would they just hand it out? Contrary to popular opinion, Bioware doesn't owe us anything for creating a game that deviates from the norm.


I quote myself and is its a my opinion..

I have not puchased dragon age 2 so for me is useless buy it to try legacy...And even if i had dragon age 2 why i should spend more money in a game that i dislike and its an huge disappointment for me? Isn't so smart