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[Melca36]

Monica83 wrote...

Playing legacy is not necessary...

If you disliked dragon age 2 is useless for you spend other money to puchase a dlc for it no matter of how good it is..

I played and finished DA2 but i not played legacy so i can't give opinions on it..

Then you should not even be posting in Legacy oriented threads. You have no credibility.

[Sylvianus]

Cliche, cliche, cliche. What ? Cliche ! So ? Cliche ! Hu, okay ! **** Cliche !

This word has become suddenly cool lately. I see it everywhere.

Now I understand why Hawk was completely boring as heroes. The writers wanted to respond to this thought a bit simplistic.

Everything in dao was complicated, deep and more subtle than anything in DA2. Just sayin '

[upsettingshorts]

Sylvianus wrote...

Everything in dao was complicated, deep and more subtle than anything in DA2. Just sayin '

No it wasn't. 

Which isn't to say that DA2 is any of those things really either.

Don't agree with me?  Fine, here, have this gift.  We're totally cool now.  DAO says so.

[leggywillow]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

Everything in dao was complicated, deep and more subtle than anything in DA2. Just sayin '

No it wasn't. 

Which isn't to say that DA2 is any of those things really either.

Don't agree with me?  Fine, here, have this gift.  We're totally cool now.  DAO says so.

I CAN'T BELIEVE WHAT YOU DID TO CONNOR AND ISOLDE--ooh, a ham bone?  For me?  ::hugs forever::

[Rinji the Bearded]

Sylvianus wrote...

Everything in dao was complicated, deep and more subtle than anything in DA2. Just sayin '

It was actually the opposite of all those things you just listed.

Not to say that it was necessarily horrible.  It just wasn't as deep and "complicated" as you so put it, and it certainly does not have those traits over DA2.

I would like to know why you thought the game was complicated, deep, and subtle however.

Modifié par RinjiRenee, 01 août 2011 - 07:50 .

[upsettingshorts]

Mash a keyboard, some meaninglessly vague criticism happens!

[hoorayforicecream]

RinjiRenee wrote...

I would like to know why you thought the game was complicated, deep, and subtle however.

Nostalgia glasses maybe?

[erynnar]

leggywillow wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

Everything in dao was complicated, deep and more subtle than anything in DA2. Just sayin '

No it wasn't. 

Which isn't to say that DA2 is any of those things really either.

Don't agree with me?  Fine, here, have this gift.  We're totally cool now.  DAO says so.

I CAN'T BELIEVE WHAT YOU DID TO CONNOR AND ISOLDE--ooh, a ham bone?  For me?  ::hugs forever::

Cute, can I play too? Oh, you don't agree with me? Or even like me? Aw, tough tiddly you're stuck with me until the game finally decides you can go.  Neither game handled that particularly well.

And to keep in the spirit of the thread, I liked Legacy and I didn't agree with Gamespot's review at all (well save the companions not staying put, but that was minor).

Modifié par erynnar, 01 août 2011 - 08:03 .

[upsettingshorts]

hoorayforicecream wrote...

Nostalgia glasses maybe?

I'd go with "anyone who likes DA2 is dumb, ergo anyone who likes DAO is smart, ergo DAO was a smarter game" as the internal monolgue of those using such terms.

But in reality they both demand the same level of intelligence, they just have different lists of features - and problems - that some people like and some people don't.  There is simply no need - and no use - for adjectives which do not apply.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 01 août 2011 - 08:03 .

[AtreiyaN7]

Sylvianus wrote...

Cliche, cliche, cliche. What ? Cliche ! So ? Cliche ! Hu, okay ! **** Cliche !

This word has become suddenly cool lately. I see it everywhere.

Now I understand why Hawk was completely boring as heroes. The writers wanted to respond to this thought a bit simplistic.

Everything in dao was complicated, deep and more subtle than anything in DA2. Just sayin '

Complicated? Just a moment...LOLOLOLOLOLOL...ahem, no, it really wasn't anymore complicated than DA2. In fact, I'd argue that DA2 combat was more involved than combat in DA:O, seeing as class syngery played a role in creating combos. It required a bit more thought than going Cone of Cold + Stone Fist = I WIN WITH INSTANT SHATTERING, that's for sure.

Or are you implying that pushing 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 0 on the hotbar in DA:O was somehow a more complex way to use one's abilities than pushing 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 0 on the hotbar in DA2? *sarcasm*

Modifié par AtreiyaN7, 01 août 2011 - 08:09 .

[erynnar]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

hoorayforicecream wrote...

Nostalgia glasses maybe?

I'd go with "anyone who likes DA2 is dumb, ergo anyone who likes DAO is smart, ergo DAO was a smarter game" as the internal monolgue of those using such terms.

But in reality they both demand the same level of intelligence, they just have different lists of features - and problems - that some people like and some people don't.  There is simply no need - and no use - for adjectives which do not apply.

Goes both ways I 've noticed. The people who like DAO are called stupid and laughed at too. Funny how that works out.

[hoorayforicecream]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

hoorayforicecream wrote...

Nostalgia glasses maybe?

I'd go with "anyone who likes DA2 is dumb, ergo anyone who likes DAO is smart, ergo DAO was a smarter game" as the internal monolgue of those using such terms.

But in reality they both demand the same level of intelligence, they just have different lists of features - and problems - that some people like and some people don't.  There is simply no need - and no use - for adjectives which do not apply.

It really weirds me out when some people can't comprehend the notion of other people liking both games. 

erynnar wrote...

Goes both ways I 've noticed. The people who like DAO are called stupid and laughed at too. Funny how that works out.

It's the usual sacred cow thing. I'm fine with people liking DAO (being one of them myself), but I find it foolish when such people make broad, sweeping generalizations like "Everything in DAO was better than DA2".

I like both games, and think they both have merits (not all of which are the same). I think that saying one is definitively better than the other in every way is foolish, because they both do things better than the other in certain aspects, and it would be silly to ignore those aspects. Broad, sweeping opinions presented as fact are the enemy here, not individual games. That holds true for any side of the argument.

Modifié par hoorayforicecream, 01 août 2011 - 08:11 .

[upsettingshorts]

erynnar wrote...

Goes both ways I 've noticed. The people who like DAO are called stupid and laughed at too. Funny how that works out.

On this forum?  Not often.  If it goes both ways, then the way you describe is a bumpy dirt road and the way I describe is a busy eight-lane superhighway.

Not that it matters, anyone doing it on either "side" definitely isn't contributing anything to the discussion.

hoorayforicecream wrote...

It really weirds me out when some people can't comprehend the notion of other people liking both games. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/uncertain.png[/smilie]

People like to attach their egos to things.

Video games, consoles, sports teams, game developers, political parties...

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 01 août 2011 - 08:07 .

[Atakuma]

Modifié par Atakuma, 01 août 2011 - 08:06 .

[ipgd]

erynnar wrote...

Goes both ways I 've noticed. The people who like DAO are called stupid and laughed at too. Funny how that works out.

By who?

Modifié par ipgd, 01 août 2011 - 08:06 .

[Rinji the Bearded]

hoorayforicecream wrote...
It really weirds me out when some people can't comprehend the notion of other people liking both games. 

Incomprehensible, impossible, INCONCEIVABLE, you obviously didn't play these games at all!!

[csfteeeer]

L.Rui wrote...

That's odd. The reviews say DA2 was good but people are saying it s*cks while reviews say Legacy s*cks and people say it's good??

The Only Website that said it sucked was Gamespot, everyone else says it's good(Some even say it's better than THE GAME ITSELF LOL!!!!)

[leggywillow]

hoorayforicecream wrote...
It really weirds me out when some people can't comprehend the notion of other people liking both games. 

It is a bit mindboggling.  I have a special place in my heart for both games.

[Sylvianus]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Mash a keyboard, some meaninglessly vague criticism happens!

Or maybe,  some rabid fanboys meaninglessly vague crititicism ! !!!

Run to hide !  they are like dogs, they come in packs...

hoorayforicecream wrote...

RinjiRenee wrote...

I would like to know why you thought the game was complicated, deep, and subtle however.

Nostalgia glasses maybe?

Nostalgia has no effect on me. I consider DA2 for what it is. I tried to love the game almost in despair, I couldn't. Too many defects. Particularly in the story.

Feel free to stay in your mind of angry fans who think that  generalize as always as you do, will help Bioware  to know how to satisfy as many people as possible in the next game.

Really I laugh and I enjoy reading you all, especially uppsershort. These few words that made you react as if you felt personally insulted. Keep it up people.

@ Rinji.

It's not worth discussing, I already feel how the discussion will turn. " Haters gonna hate ", blah blah blah " Yeah.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 01 août 2011 - 08:22 .

[csfteeeer]

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

Cliche, cliche, cliche. What ? Cliche ! So ? Cliche ! Hu, okay ! **** Cliche !

This word has become suddenly cool lately. I see it everywhere.

Now I understand why Hawk was completely boring as heroes. The writers wanted to respond to this thought a bit simplistic.

Everything in dao was complicated, deep and more subtle than anything in DA2. Just sayin '

Complicated? Just a moment...LOLOLOLOLOLOL...ahem, no, it really wasn't anymore complicated than DA2. In fact, I'd argue that DA2 combat was more involved than combat in DA:O, seeing as class syngery played a role in creating combos. It required a bit more thought than going Cone of Cold + Stone Fist = I WIN WITH INSTANT SHATTERING, that's for sure.

Or are you implying that pushing 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 0 on the hotbar in DA:O was somehow a more complex way to use one's abilities than pushing 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 0 on the hotbar in DA2? *sarcasm*

True, the only thing you had to do was attack an enemy an randomly press an special move until it died(unless the fights were stupidly cheap*Cough*Arishok*Cough).

[csfteeeer]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

Costin_Razvan wrote...


That a plot has certain characters in it that are interesting ( I personally liked Jeneka the most ) doesn't change the fact it is ****.

Your opinion is not a fact.

Cliche = **** plot. it meant the authors could not make something original. The fact that's its a well written cliche plot doens't change it's cliche.

Or please do argue that Legacy's plot IS NOT cliche. I eagerly await that one.

Bull-F***ing-S**t

Cliche doesn't equal crap.
what matters is if the story is well told and well written, and DAO was.

There are basically no original plot these days, everything has been done before, but if a writer can work around that, then it's good (Example, TW2 is a cliche personal plot, in it's bare bones of course.
Guy gets framed for something he didn't do -> guy gets on the run -> guy has to find the guy who framde him.
Basically, The Fugitive with Elves and Dwarves.
That DOESN'T mean the story or plot in TW2 is bad, oh, it's the COMPLETE opposite, but that's how things are.)

Modifié par csfteeeer, 01 août 2011 - 08:36 .

[hoorayforicecream]

Sylvianus wrote...

It's not worth discussing, I already feel how the discussion will turn. " Haters gonna hate ", blah blah blah " Yeah.

It really doesn't leave much room for discussion if your position is absolute. Just sayin'. 

[axl99]

How many people are still gonna watch playthroughs on Youtube just to feel whatever negative opinions they have on Legacy are a little extra relevant?

[Dormiglione]

I am one of the people who are really disappointed with Dragon Age 2. Preordered DA2 because i love DAO. So i was unsure if i would buy any DLC for DA2. After reading through the Legacy Review thread, i decided to give it a try.
And i was positive surprised by the Legacy DLC. Kudos and Congratulation to Bioware. In my opinion, the Legacy DLC made a big step in the right direction.

But it leaves also a bitter taste in my mouth. The DA2 main game should have had the same quality as the Legacy DLC.

[Melca36]

axl99 wrote...

How many people are still gonna watch playthroughs on Youtube just to feel whatever negative opinions they have on Legacy are a little extra relevant?

I can't judge a game by watching a youtube.  I don't see how people can.